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Thirty-five firearms stolen from garage of Palo Alto home

Original post made on Apr 29, 2021

Four gun security cabinets carrying 35 firearms were stolen from the garage of a home early Tuesday morning in Palo Alto, police said.

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Posted by Bystander
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 29, 2021 at 8:17 pm

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Why are gun cabinets that are so easily moveable kept in an unlocked garage?


Posted by felix
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 29, 2021 at 11:06 pm

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How is there no indication suspects tried or had entered the home, yet 2 firearms were stolen from inside the house?

The guns were not stored safely and are now in criminal hands, so our whole community is endangered. That’s just great.

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Posted by Neal
a resident of Community Center
on Apr 30, 2021 at 6:58 am

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Don/t blame the victim.


Posted by Local Resident
a resident of Community Center
on Apr 30, 2021 at 10:21 am

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The garage should have been locked. Just sayin...


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Apr 30, 2021 at 10:50 am

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An experienced thief can easily get around a locked garage door in less than a minute. I have no desire to own a gun, but I agree with don't blame the victim. The guns were registered and unloaded, and anyone could be a burglary victim.


Posted by community member
a resident of University South
on Apr 30, 2021 at 11:05 am

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A neighbor who has 35 guns isn't a typical victim.
It's uncivilized to value instruments whose only use is to kill.
Hunting is killing, just for fun.
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Posted by Observer
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Apr 30, 2021 at 11:27 am

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If the guns include heirlooms of even modest value, it seems like safer storage should have been arranged. But it is obvious that the person(s) who stole the cabinets had advance knowledge they were there, especially if multiple vehicles were involved. The victim might want to think about who was aware of them. The person(s) clearly didn't stumble on them accidentally in the middle of a burglary. I lived for 30+ years in the vicinity of the theft, and never knew that such a cache of weapons was nearby, and maintained by someone who was clueless about how to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands. [Portion removed.]


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Apr 30, 2021 at 12:08 pm

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Questioning why someone would have that many guns is understandable. Blaming the victim marginalizes the survivor, minimizes the criminal act, and makes people less likely to come forward and report what has happened to them.

I might feel uneasy living near someone that owned that many guns, but I mind my own business when it comes to my neighbors. Guns might get you targeted. but you could say the same regarding driving a luxury vehicle, wearing designer clothes, carrying a designer purse, carrying a lot of cash or wearing a Rolex watch. That would never happen in the area, right?


Posted by Local news junkie
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Apr 30, 2021 at 12:17 pm

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It’s a fact: Lot of people own guns, even in Palo Alto. (I live with one of them, who just uses his guns for target practice at a shooting range. And he locks them all up, according to the law.) I have no interest in guns whatsoever, but wouldn’t blame the victim in this case.


Posted by NRA Member
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2021 at 12:53 pm

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Gun safety locks are as important as the firearms themselves and all weaponry and ammunition should be securely locked to discourage theft and misuse.

That said, owning 35 firearms is no different than someone collecting 35 coins, 35 samurai swords, 35 guitars or 35 wristwatches.

Though it is not permitted in California, New York, Illinois or Washington D.C., open carry is permitted in 47 states and not surprisingly, the overall crime rate is lower.

The discharge of firearms in self-defense is a legitimate option and in the state of Indiana, it ialso legal to shoot a police officer in self-defense.

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And while open carry might seem like reckless endangerment to some, it should also be noted that in states with this provision, carrying a firearm and/or discharging one while intoxicated OR shooting someone in the back are FELONIES that carry heavy prison sentencing. And as a result, folks who pack heat do so with a sense of discretion.

Lastly, in terms of shooting someone in the back, only the police have that option but this practice is now being held to further scrutiny.

The bottom line is that in lieu of restrictions, responsible gun ownership is what the nation should be striving towards.


Posted by Consider Your Options.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 30, 2021 at 1:20 pm

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The garage was unlocked. One gun cabinet lock was known to fail. And WHY was a garage used for gun storage of so many guns? I'm sorry, but that is just careless. I do blame the victim for not implementing better security--especially with that many guns in storage. Now our community has to contend with 35 guns in the hands of an unknown criminal.

Do we need gun control? Yes. Do we need gun storage control? Yes.


Posted by What Will They Do Next
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Apr 30, 2021 at 3:48 pm

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This topic would have much more community dialogue if Palo Alto Online went back to it's previous commentary format. Has anyone else noticed that article comments have hardly any participation these days?

It's almost impossible to engage when the process has been purposely changed to discourage debate among readers.


Posted by It's Just Ugly
a resident of Palo Verde School
on Apr 30, 2021 at 3:52 pm

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35 guns may be an unhealthy obsession for someone living in a dense suburban neighborhood.

I am not buying that collecting 35 guns is the same as collecting coins, stamps, or beanie babies.

Coins, stamps, and beanie babies cannot be used to kill another human. (ok...well maybe not beanie babies...clearly in the wrong hands, those things were lethal)


Posted by What Will They Do Next
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Apr 30, 2021 at 4:00 pm

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@ It's just ugly ... people collect cars and don't drive them. People collect coins and don't spend them. People collect stamps and don't use them to mail letters. I could go on but other collectible categories were posted above.

The guns were unloaded and locked in security cabinets. Apparently the ammunition was stored similarly or or in another part of the home. Sounds pretty responsible to me.


Posted by Game Over
a resident of another community
on Apr 30, 2021 at 5:47 pm

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The victim of this unfortunate burglary has the right to keep and own as many firearms as he wishes providing they are not illegal weapons.

But he also has the responsibility to secure them safely and out of harm's way.


Posted by Native to the BAY
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Apr 30, 2021 at 6:52 pm

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This is truly terrifying. If four fire arms cabinets with 35 firearms were stolen this easily , a child or teen from this family of four or known associates of this family could have “broken” in and taken them . This is a gross testament to how easily it is to get a hold of 35 firearms (rifles etc) of the estimated 300 million in the hands of American citizens. I am extremely concerned and pray the FBI is on this theft. Yes prayers and thoughts. Sounds like an inside job. Legally registered. Yet are they insured too??? BTW ammo is not that difficult to secure.


Posted by Michelle
a resident of Stanford
on May 1, 2021 at 7:58 am

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Very troubling to know that a house in condensed Palo Alto, a few streets away from Jordan middle school, had so many unlocked weapons.


Posted by CalAveLocal
a resident of Evergreen Park
on May 1, 2021 at 7:58 am

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I do not want to blame the victim of this burglary, they have suffered a loss of their property and I am very sorry for them regarding that.
Having said that, this is not responsible gun ownership in the least, and that is a serious problem as well. And to add to that - location is extremely close to 2 middle schools with middle school students walking by there possibly on a daily basis. Seeing is guns were in an unlocked garage and while locked in their boxes, at least one box had a "malfunctioning" lock - its not too far to make a guess that some kid was walking by it and saw the owner(s) playing with their private property in their garage with the door open. This is the absolute most horrifying thought to me. We've had so many issues with mental health and suicide of our students here; giving them a possibility of stealing an easily assessable gun... thats just awful.

(and the difference between collecting 35 stamps and 35 guns is, well, gun's sole purpose is to kill things. At least samurai swords could potentially be used to chop carrots)


Posted by Local Resident
a resident of Community Center
on May 1, 2021 at 12:57 pm

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This sounds like the robber(s) had prior knowledge the guns were stored there.

Also, I wouldn't call leaving firearms in an unlocked garage overnight "Responsible Gun Ownership". There is a good chance some of those firearms will be used in crimes and may even be used to kill someone. The lack of care has consequences. The idea that because an trained person can pick a lock in a minute thus locks are meaningless is a theoretical rather than practical argument, because in practice locks will stop most people.


Posted by Lala
a resident of Menlo Park
on May 1, 2021 at 5:23 pm

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I feel sad for the burglary victims. They probably feel violated, and they have additional emotional burden to go through their list of anyone who had access to the house before. More importantly - emotional burden knowing that the guns could be used while commiting a crime. Or many crimes..

Having said that. I bought a gun safe from Costco not to use it for guns, but as a fire and burglary resistant safe for important documents. It is bolted to the foundation, per instructions, and the locking system is solid. I did go through a lot of effort to safeguard my daughter's first onsie and family photos from early 1900s.

It is incomprehensible to me that anyone would not apply same, or higher, level of protection for lethal weapons. The real victims are the people who would be assaulted and harmed using these weapons. This is irresponsible and uncivil. I don't care whether they had one gun, 35, or 135. They need to be secured.


Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on May 5, 2021 at 8:54 am

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The negligence of the victim resulted in arming criminals, and endangering all of us. I don't think it's 'victim blaming' to discuss how the selling off of a gun cache to criminals affects us all. It's also very transparent to try and prohibit the use of the term 'victim blaming' because of its left leaning usage for victims of rape and abuse. The public danger cause by the loss of the guns is very distinguishable from 'victim blaming' in case of rape and abuse.


Posted by Chris Zaharias
a resident of another community
on May 6, 2021 at 11:45 am

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Gangs need guns for protection and to control their turf.
Turfs are areas in which they sell drugs to customers.
Drug users give gangs the economic incentive to own guns.

Palo Alto and nearby cities have sky-high rates of illicit prescription and Schedule I drug use.

Either legalize all drugs, or [better IMHO] try to help those you know stop using them.