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The Speech--E Pluribus Unum

Original post made by Sharon, Midtown, on Jun 4, 2009

President Obama:
"We are shaped by every culture, drawn from every end of the Earth, and dedicated to a simple concept: E Pluribus Unum: 'Out of many, one.'"

I don't think what he means by it is what it means.

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 4, 2009 at 9:03 am

I observe some people are disgusted by the E Pluribus Unum concept. They need to realize that E Pluribus Pluribus doesn't guarantee them top dog status.

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Posted by talk talk talk
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 4, 2009 at 9:29 am

The TelePrompter jesus still does not understand Islam.

** The Motto of The Theology State in Iran. It is better to be feared than to be loved; Machiavelli.**

As soon as he starts to position the US in same light they (Islam) will respect us. As for love, who cares about that!

I will give the TelePrompter jesus credit for this line in his speech; he did hit the nail on head in this small part or a way too long speech.
The attacks of September 11, 2001 and the continued efforts of these (Muslim) extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view Islam as inevitably hostile not only to America and Western countries, but also to human rights. All this has bred more fear and more mistrust.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 4, 2009 at 9:35 am

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

I will not take communion with a congregation that prays for my death. I would not deny to others the right to their own culture, but neither would I be denied my right to not cooperate in my own demise.

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 4, 2009 at 9:50 am

Re top dogs--
Senator Reid has a unique perspective

"America identifies with the underdog, and you've been an underdog many times in your life, but always the top dog."

--Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to Judge Sonia Sotomayor, June 2

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 4, 2009 at 12:24 pm

UK FT analysis of the speechWeb Link

The speech also poses risks for Mr Obama.
While he addressed masterfully the conflicting pressures the US faces in the region, he will find translating them into coherent policies far more challenging, if not impossible.

Mr Obama called for a joint effort to create a world where extremists no longer threatened Americans, US troops returned home, Israelis and Palestinians lived in secure states of their own, and nuclear energy was used only for peaceful purposes.
It is an ambitious vision that would transform the Middle East, but it raises expectations far beyond the US’s ability to deliver.

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 4, 2009 at 1:30 pm

"America identifies with the underdog, and you've been an underdog many times in your life, but always the top dog."

Hot Dog!

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 4, 2009 at 1:49 pm

"As soon as he starts to position the US in same light they (Islam) will respect us. As for love, who cares about that!"

Big talk. Bush 43 talked the fear thing for seven years, but the more he swaggered the louder the world laughed. Everybody knew he couldn't back his bluster. The respected US leaders are the smart confident Obama types.

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Posted by Disgusted by speech
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 pm

Yawn...words, words, words.

Can't get the numbers right, referring yesterday to how we have as many Muslims as most Muslim countries ( SO wrong) so we could be considered a Muslim country ( though we can't be considered a Christian one, I recall)...

Can't get the translation right to the E pluribis unum of our country, meant for uniting many States under one Govt ( sorry, BHO, your lack of history showeth again, or are you actually telling the truth and saying you want one world govt..which you run, of course?)

Can't get the problems right (we never tortured under Bush..under FDR and Roosevelt, yes, ..under Bush, no) so you can' say "YOU" have ended all torture in the USA..was already done

Can't get the govts BHO, all govts are NOT valid. Govts that massacre their gays and flog and stone their women are not govts I will acknowledge as valid.

Can't get the money BHO, I will not support sending yet more money to the Middle East ..I know you think that they belong to our stimulus plan, given that at least 7 of them must have been part of the 57 States you visited on your campaign trail, but they do not get money just because you promise it..

As usual, the foreign press is getting it right, BHO can not deliver anything he said, and has only made it more dangerous to be an American through a nauseating amount of moral relativism. Ours will fawn over how wonderful BHO was to the Muslims ( having done nothing but deride Bush whenever he spoke and all the great things he said to the Muslim world..)

And, of course, quoting from the Koran by the USA President is now perfectly cool thing to do, but gosh when Bush quoted from the Bible ONCE, ( inapproprately I might add in my opinion), and not even during any kind of speech representing the USA, just during an interview, the press went insane. But now our POTUS can quote from the Koran in an official POTUS speech, and that will be fine with everyone.

Oh well, in the end, it was nothing but forked tongue words, meaningless, except for revealing to those who actually listen how many times he says "HE" will do this and "HE" will do that, as if he were a Chavez tyrant. And how many times it is suddenly acceptable to say OUT LOUD his middle name and where he spent his formative years and in what schools. ( The name and school that dared not be said during his campaign)

I sure hope America is paying attention to BHO yet again apologizing and groveling for the USA which was the leader of freeeing 60,000,000 more Muslims than were free 8 years ago, apologizing and groveling for a country that is the only one of two nations ( Israel being the other) to send the vast majority of Aid that the Palestinians get, apologizing and groveling for our country, which has brought more inventions and medicines which have improved lives all over the world than any other nation or even group of nations, ...the list goes on and on.

I am nauseated.

In the meantime, the dictators of the Middle East are delighted that there is obviously no longer someone in office on the side of their oppressed peoples, but on the side of the dictators.

Way to go BHO!

I can hear millions of oppressed and suffering people crying into their pillows tonight...waiting for the body parts of their dissident family members to arrive on their doorsteps with no impunity on the part of their govts. ANd there is nobody, anywhere, any more on their side. Former USSR citizens, hearing Reagan's speeches about being on THEIR side, grew hope and kept up the hard work of gaining freedom.

Guess BHO just set that back in the Middle East.

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 4, 2009 at 5:25 pm

I actually thought the speech itself was good, it could have been much worse.

My concern is the follow through on the raised expectation of USA to solve problems that have been there for centuries, in some cases.

Obama is certainly a master orator, hope he has good COOs in place drive implementation.

Strategy success is 90% execution.

One thing that bothered me is the university where he spoke will not allow Christian Coptics to attend, even though they pay more than 10% of the taxes that fund the free university.

Obama obviously could not easily point this out but another local that represents religious tolerance would have sent an important message to the Muslim world where many Christians are persecuted.

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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 4, 2009 at 6:01 pm

Can you imagine an American President speaking at any public university in the free world where Muslims are not accepted, but pay taxes to support it?

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 4, 2009 at 6:19 pm

"we never tortured under Bush"

Another right wingnut flipflop. You people used to be so proud of people torturing people you don't like for you. Now you're in denial, or the liberals will say something bad about you.

"BHO can not deliver anything he said"

You mean Bush could not deliver anything he said. Too much stagger in his swagger. Bush spoke, and the world laughed, remember? Eight years of Bush bumbling left you ill-prepared to accept a competent president.

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 4, 2009 at 6:49 pm

It is time to get over Bush Derangement Syndrome, the past is the past, it is what it is.

Obama has made a lot of promises to countries that have a long history of sleight of hand in diplomacy, they were experts at slick Chicago style tactics when Chicago was not there.

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Jun 4, 2009 at 10:20 pm

"It is time to get over Bush Derangement Syndrome"

Obama is working 200+% to eradicate the Bush Derangement Syndrome, starting with the Bush Recession/Near-Depression. It's a Herculean job. For all our sakes, wish him well.

And recognize the deep hole Bush and the Republicans dug the US into, because those who will not remember history are condemned to repeat it.

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 5, 2009 at 6:09 am

The “moment is now”, says President Obama.
“U.S. President Barack Obama says the “moment is now” to press for a Middle East peace agreement, and he pledged to redouble efforts to reach a deal between Israel and the Palestinians.”
Meanwhile, the Israeli government has dug in it’s heels and will defy Obama on the settlements.Web Link

"Israel will not heed President Barack Obama’s powerful appeal to halt all settlement activity on lands the Palestinians claim for a future state, officials said Friday.

The government plans to allow construction inside existing West Bank settlements to accommodate for growing families, said the officials, explaining a position that looks sure to cause a serious policy clash with the United States".

This is a very dangerous strategy for Netanyahu because he is choosing to fight over an issue where Obama will have the PR advantage

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Posted by What is a settlement?
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jun 5, 2009 at 1:52 pm

A settlement means either a gathering of homes or even just ONE home.

Netanyahu is clear..they will not increase the area of settlements, but the density. There is nothing wrong with that. This is land already owned by Israelis. Taken from attackers after repelling the attackers, as has been standard practice in victory for all of the world's history..

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 5, 2009 at 1:59 pm

Is Obama Trying To Overthrow Bibi? Web Link

Netanyahu is in a terrible spot:
He must preserve, at all costs, Israel's strategic relationship with Washington; on the other hand, he has right-wing coalition partners who are myopically obsessed with the status of the Neve Manyak outposts.
Something is bound to break, and when it does, the Netanyahu government collapses.
Which doesn't mean that Netanyahu is out of power.
It means that he then shares power with Tzipi Livni's centrist Kadima Party.
If I were an American policymaker, that's the Israeli coalition I would hope for:
Netanyahu-Barak-Livni, rather than Netanyahu-Barak-Lieberman.
You watch: It's coming.

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