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Foothill's Cubberley plan wins council support

Original post made on Jan 23, 2008

Replacing aging classrooms and buildings at Cubberley Community Center with a new 100,000 square-foot Foothill College facility is a "terrific idea," Mayor Larry Klein said Tuesday night, echoed by other council members in a study session.

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Posted by Parent
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 23, 2008 at 2:55 pm

Of course the Council should be delighted with this proposal. It will make Palo Alto look as if it is improving without Palo Alto spending any money. However, remember that this will not be for PAUSD's benefit if it wants to use Cubberly as a school site in the future.

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Posted by RWE
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jan 23, 2008 at 3:00 pm

This is a great deal! Think about how many kids are already using the Foothill program to graduate from high school. Imagine how this can bring PAUSD and Foothill/DeAnza closer together, as educational environments change.

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Posted by Neighbor
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jan 23, 2008 at 4:24 pm

Parent, the School District has already been consulted about this proposal and is looking forward to working with both Foothill and the City on improving Cubberley. Also, the PAUSD has the opportunity to buy back the City's 8 acres after an appraisal of the site, and before any agreements are signed with Foothill.

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Posted by a
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Jan 23, 2008 at 9:34 pm

Does anybody know what would happen to the soccer fields/race track behind cuberly should this deal go through? Thanks

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Posted by Amy
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 24, 2008 at 5:44 am

The soccer fields/race track will remain, they are NOT going to be build over any playing fields. The proposed new construction will be located where the present buildings are today. In other words some of the old dilapidated buildings closest to the Charleston Shopping Center will be torn down and new ones built.

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Posted by Betsy Allyn
a resident of Green Acres
on Jan 24, 2008 at 3:16 pm

I think that we should be far more careful about this "arrangement" until we know
all the facts behind it. Only 10% of FC students come from PaloAlto. F college
will have the use of the gym and fields. Would the C Council REALLY agree to sell the land when it increases in value everyday? What if the Mitchell Park Community Center
is not approved by the voters? Where is the city going to re-locate all the tenants there now? The college says it will have room for P A's child care centers, night classes, meeting rooms for the public, etc. But it also expects to grow to 4,000 students in the next few years. If the city intends to use the lease $ from F College
to support the Public Safety Bldg. why don't they say so. Ask some questions.

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 24, 2008 at 4:53 pm

Someone I know who attended Cubberly as a high school asked me if the pool is there. I replied that I didn't think so, but was told that there was a great (?) pool behind the gym when it was a high school. Anyone know the story of what happened to it?

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Posted by Neighbor
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jan 24, 2008 at 7:21 pm

Resident, after Cubberley was closed a protective fence was put round the swimming pool at the back of the school near the tennis courts.

Unfortunately, one night some youths climbed over the protective fence and one of them dived in head first, broke his neck and sadly died. Since the School District could not post a guard 24 hours a day it was decided to fill in the swimming pool because it had now become a liability. The swimming pool area is now part of the parking lot.

This all happened over 25 years ago.

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Posted by Adam
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 25, 2008 at 9:12 am

The City Council is NOT in favor of selling the 8 acres of City owned land at Cubberley. The City pays more than $4 M per year to the PAUSD for the balance of the land (27 acres). By leasing the 8 acres the City is expected to receive about $1.8 M per year in lease payments from Foothill.

There are presently 1028 Full Time Equivalent (FTE) students at the Foothill Cubberley campus. This translates to between 3500 and 4000 part time students. It is estimated this will increase at about 2%/year until 2014. This doesn't sound like much of a traffic problem.

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Posted by cubberley tenant
a resident of Barron Park
on Jan 25, 2008 at 10:10 am

Where will the numerous small businesses and non-profits go if this takes place? The small businesses and non-profits that operate at Cubberley provide a valuable public service and are predominantly attended by Palo Alto or neighboring communities. With space at the premium price it is in Palo Alto, are you driving out smaller groups - because they certainly won't be able to afford the market rates nor for some find a space that is adequate in the Palo Alto area.

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Posted by Resident
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jan 25, 2008 at 10:48 am

Cubberley Tenant, first of all the tenants will have 2 1/2 years to make up their minds whether they want to stay or move. If they want to stay the City has said they will work with you on relocation.

It is expected that the Jewish Community Center will be moving out of their spaces at both Cubberley and the adjacent Greendell Elementary School to their new campus on Charleston at San Antonio. It is hoped that tenants can be temporarily relocated in those vacated spaces.

Later when Foothill College moves into their newly constructed facilities, they will be vacating other classroom space at Cubberley which will become available for displaced tenants.

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Posted by Midtown Guy
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 25, 2008 at 11:49 am

Sell ANOTHER former school site? I don't believe it!
Regrets abound now over the selling of several precious elementary school sites over the past years. Now that we NEED those sites, they are gone, and so is the money.

Kids will be crowded into already overcrowded sites. High school enrollment at Paly and Gunn is far over original plans.Schools are populated with "temporary" classrooms, although a bond issue in the 90's was supposed to eliminate portables ("Not on my watch," said one school board member then.)

We will need a third high school site, mark my words, although
it seems that subject has been barred from discussion with
the new superintendent. When Will We Ever Learn From Past Mistakes?
Sell Cubberley to Foothill, then regret the elimination of a decent
high school site? Bizarre. No one seems to have vision.

The City should arrange to transfer the Cubberley site back to the school district and include a new high school in the upcoming bond election. Otherwise, I as a voter will see the bond issue as a patchwork quilt that does not add the needed secondary facility.

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Posted by Adam
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 28, 2008 at 4:09 pm

Midtown Guy. As I noted above the Cubberley site will not be sold. Several council members said they would not vote to sell the property. When the subject was raised at the council meeting, everyone who spoke was strongly against a sale as opposed to a lease.

Apparently the PAUSD does not plan to build a third high school. The estimated cost is overwhelming. And trying to get parents to transfer their children to a new school would be a political nightmare.

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