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Neighbors reviewing street safety after fatal crash

Original post made on Oct 10, 2008

On the heels of last week's crash on Park Boulevard that killed two young men, residents are rethinking traffic controls that were put in place more than 15 years ago.

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Posted by Greg K
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 10, 2008 at 8:59 am

The semi-barrier that blocks northbound traffic on Park, but not southbound traffic, is not effective. I regularly see cars driving on the wrong side of the street to go north through the barrier. Some of these wrong-way drivers are outsiders, like the kids killed in the recent crash, but others are locals who want a short cut home.

The city should close that barrier to car traffic going both ways. Continue to allow bicycles and pedestrians through. Cars can still access Peers Park via Stanford Ave or Park Blvd from El Camino.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 10, 2008 at 10:04 am

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People who privatize public streets should be made to maintain them. People go where they must go. Block them from one neighborhood and they go to another. Don't play in the street.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 10, 2008 at 10:10 am

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Raise the drawbridge. If the locals want a private street, sell Park to them and let them do the upkeep, same as on their driveway. If you think there is too much through traffic, petition for improvements to arterials so that shortcuts are not needed. I resent the Park closure because it brought about the closure of Peninsula Scientific, a store where I could always find the experiment to help teach my children about reality.

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Posted by fireman
a resident of another community
on Oct 10, 2008 at 3:59 pm

Now,now Walter. you sound like me. Oh BTW. There is no reality in Palo Alto. Yes it was a great store.

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Posted by sally
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 10, 2008 at 4:07 pm

People can go where they want to go, but Park Blvd. passes right through Peers Park, which is heavily used by children. Speeding on that road is absolutely unacceptable.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 11, 2008 at 3:33 am

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Speeding on any street is unacceptable and children should not play in the street.

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 11, 2008 at 9:32 am

As someone who had to navigate to Peers Park for TBall games and had to turn round many times before finding the right way to go, I feel that traffic calming in that area is actually leading to more traffic frustration than anything else. The number of barricades, not being able to follow a map to get to the Park and very confusing intersections makes this neighborhood a good example of what can make drivers lose their patience, get completely lost and as a result drive erratically. Add that to the dark (which I have not done) and the fact that a driver may or may not have had too much to drink (which I have also not done do not condone) is probably part of the problem. If the driver can't find his way out of this rabbit warren after dropping off one of his passengers, then eventually his frustrations could cause him to do something really stupid like speed around the neighborhood looking for a way out.

No traffic calming ever will stop those who are determined to speed. These particular calming measures may make the most calm, sober driver, a bad tempered moron.

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Posted by A long time resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 11, 2008 at 12:12 pm

It's a mystery how public roads get closed off in certain neighborhoods.

These are streets paid for and maintained by everyone.

If and when the new police bldg is built Park Blvd. will have to be opened all the way North and South. It may be made into an Expressway or a road equivalent to Alma.
If Oregon Underpass gets blocked for whatever reason the police will be isolated from the Eastern part of Palo Alto unless Park is opened up and a connection to College Ave even and to the other streets that cross the tracks.

Child protective services should be called whenever children are seen playing in any street anywhere!!
I'v seen articles in the Weekly about how happy parents are to have their children playing in public streets in their neighborhood as there isn't much traffic.
The children should be taken away from parents with this attitude.

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Posted by history
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Oct 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm

Anyone remember the Downtown North barriers? Millions wasted when all that was needed was a few road signs.

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Posted by relieved
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 12, 2008 at 6:31 pm

A few signs and the cops writing alot of tickets to convince people not to use the neighborhood roads as a commute corridor

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Posted by Driver
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 12, 2008 at 11:05 pm

Public roads are public roads. Once barriers are put in place they are attempting to prevent the public from using their roads. The roads are not owned by the people who live on them, but by the public at large.

I agree that we should obey speed limits and other courteous behavior when driving in neighborhoods, but putting up barricades does nothing to stop speeders, just makes the public trying to use them more angry when they can't follow their maps to get to where they are going.

Obviously, if there is a bottleneck somewhere a residential road seems like a great idea. I myself refuse to use Charleston during the afternoons when there is too much slow traffic and go on the side streets instead and I am sure I am not alone.

If someone wants to speed at 3.00 am, signs and police giving tickets during the day are not going to stop them. Instead, allowing drivers who have got lost after giving someone a ride home to get out of the area is a much better idea.

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Posted by noblox
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Nov 23, 2008 at 7:10 pm

they should just get rid of the road blocks on park, but then install a lot, and i mean a LOT of speed bumps. those that drive speedily will just have to do so extremely uncomfortably, giving them a lesson on speeding does not equal comfort.

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Posted by Joe
a resident of Ventura
on Oct 27, 2009 at 11:30 am

Police needs to be more agressive and start spending more time on Park Blvd at night, there are always a couple of cars going so fast at night that I keep waiting for them to crash somewhere. A year ago a speeding car hit a house next to mine, I mentioned the speeding problem to one of the officers that showed up and he got uppset saying that this was not the time to bring up this issue, if this was not the time, then when is it?

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