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Palo Alto seeks greater say in Stanford growth plan

Original post made on Dec 6, 2022

​​As Santa Clara County prepares to adopt a new plan to govern Stanford University's growth, Palo Alto officials are pushing for more housing, expanded shuttle services and a seat at the table in the coming negotiations.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, December 6, 2022, 1:03 AM

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Posted by Wilma Flores
a resident of Ventura
on Dec 6, 2022 at 10:02 am

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Stanford does not answer to Palo Alto and vice versa. Whatever goes on in these two locales is their own private business and Stanford is under no moral or economic obligation to provide additional housing that benefits those who want to reside in Palo Alto simply for the sake of living in Palo Alto.

With the effective countywide mass transit system that we have now, aspiring PA residents should consider residing in less dense communities like Gilroy and Morgan Hill and commute accordingly by Caltrains, VTA, or one's personal EV. Simply put on some music and enjoy the ride!

Stanford University is well known for its vast wide-open spaces and to disrupt this topography to benefit projected Palo Alto housing needs would be a travesty.

Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Dec 6, 2022 at 10:52 am

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High time Stanford started providing its fair share of housing while it keeps rapidly expanding, forcing its construction workers and long-term patients at Stanford Med into those RVS on El Camino.

"The university also added 1,023 dwellings outside its campus since 2000, much of it in Palo Alto and Menlo Park. This does not include its recent purchase of Oak Creek Apartments, a residential complex on Sand Hill Road with 759 units, Bradley said."

1,023 minus 759 = 264 and how many more housing units in College Terrace has Stanford taken over lately??

Between Stanford University and Stanford Med, they have a total population that in 2021 approached Palo Alto's yet PA has a housing target of 6.,086 and their piddling 264- units don't come close to helping.

Write to PA City Council and the County!

Posted by Native to the BAY
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Dec 6, 2022 at 11:39 am

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Stanford owns the land at2500 ECR (Mayfield Place). Part of the 264 number mentioned above. While the 196 up Cal Ave at Stanford Terrace live in a lap of luxury, very very poor service working residents at Mayfield live in near squalor, unfair, filth and despair. Because Stanford leases to Related they refuse to take any responsibility for the almost complete break down of everything at Mayfield Place: overflowing trash, rats, burst pipes, no hot water or at best, inconsistent , broken locked amenities like the no acccess to computers, printers, no access to dedicated resume building kiosk, on and on and on. Unit appliances broken cracked , mail and packages get stolen, locked bikes stolen, no onsite management , no onsite contract resources for residents . The issues and conditions at Mayfield are terrible. Yet because the outside is all spit and Polish the city ignores the reports of actual nuts and bolts of the interior conditions breaking down and terrible managed. Here’s an irony. Stanford ilk can live at Mayfield, yet Palo Alto non-Stanford folk can’t live at Stanford Terrace. So much for the Mayfield agreement.

Posted by Interested Reader
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Dec 6, 2022 at 11:46 am

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Any agreement with Stanford, the City and the County has to include Stanford paying their fare share of grade separations. Since the pandemic, Palo Alto is now the #1 Caltrain station- ahead of San Francisco, thanks to the constant stream of workers going to the Stanford Hospital and the University. Stanford is highly dependent on Caltrain to keep their No Net New Trip numbers in check. Stanford needs to help upgrade the Caltrain grade separations since gate down time is the main cause of local traffic, and the main user of Caltrain is Stanford.

Posted by Consider Your Options.
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 6, 2022 at 12:13 pm

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I agree with Interested Reader 100%.

Posted by Interested Reader
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Dec 6, 2022 at 1:49 pm

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@Wilma Flores - Stanford, Palo Alto, and the County all answer to each other as part of a formal agreement known as the 1985 Land Use Agreement (or the Tri-party agreement). Here is a link to that document: Web Link

The article is about how they are trying to update that agreement - and all three parties are EQUAL in that contract - and Stanford is therefore under economic obligation.

Posted by MyFeelz
a resident of JLS Middle School
on Dec 6, 2022 at 2:08 pm

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The Stanford dictatorship says gimme gimme gimme and the City (which wouldn't exist without Stanford) says "yes my lord".

Wilma, "effective" and "countywide" are not terms that work in Santa Clara County. Are you sure you are from here or are you taking a break from some kind of performance art, and reading METRO magazine?

Native ... The Mayfield place is a perfect example of everything that's wrong with "affordable housing". Here's a tip to bypass city and county corruption and get something done about an uninhabitable situation: "The State of California Department of Consumer Affairs can help with questions or complaints regarding landlord/tenant relationships, including repair issues, safety violations, and Health and Safety Code violations. For further information, call (800) 952-5210, or visit the website at" PA is not exempt from state law. Don't need to get a grand jury involved in it, either. Epecially since the City ignores grand jury recommendations.

Posted by lulu
a resident of Los Altos
on Dec 6, 2022 at 4:38 pm

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Stanford needs to construct park and rides, and use their Marguerite system to transport employees/students onto campus. The line of traffic exiting 280 and 101 at Page Mill and Oregon Expy is terrible and the number of cars clogging our local roads is deplorable. They need to take some responsibility for the increasing amount of traffic they are creating.

Posted by Jerry
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Dec 6, 2022 at 4:48 pm

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@Wilma, the real travesty here is housing in Palo Alto and surrounding communities has become unaffordable to many in the middle class. At the same time, deep-pocketed Stanford has been buying up and leasing surrounding subdivisions for use by students and facility. See @Online Name's most erudite comment.

It's about time that Stanford engages fairly and recognizes the problems caused by this policy.
Greer Stone's comment about restrictions on who lives in Stanford housing shouldn't just be a concern-- it should be a cause to pull the fire alarm.

Posted by Mac Peterson
a resident of Stanford
on Dec 7, 2022 at 8:43 am

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Concurring with Wilma Flores. Stanford University is merely looking after its own people which is what Palo Alto is trying to do except that Palo Alto is fruitlessly trying to accommodate a plethora outsiders who should be residing elsewhere due to affordability factors and considerations.

If one cannot afford a Mercedes, consider driving a Hyundai instead.

Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Dec 7, 2022 at 10:02 am

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"Any agreement with Stanford, the City and the County has to include Stanford paying their fare share of grade separations."

And their share of police resources since at least 1/3 of all reported crimes happen at Stanford Shopping Center which sits on Stanford land and from which Stanford profits.

They're so self-interested they even objected to paying school tax for their always-growing population at PASD schools.

Posted by MyFeelz
a resident of JLS Middle School
on Dec 7, 2022 at 4:36 pm

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@Online Name, don't forget they should shoulder 1/3 of the cost of the webcams they want to have detectives watching 24/7 in certain superior neighborhoods.

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