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Eleven new California laws for 2022, explained in one minute

Original post made on Dec 31, 2021

The new year brings a raft of new laws for Californians. They're likely to affect what your neighborhood looks like, how safe you feel, what recourse you have against discrimination -- even how you take out your trash.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, December 31, 2021, 9:12 AM

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Posted by Bystander
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 31, 2021 at 4:09 pm

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What is the definition of food? Corn husks? Ham Bones? Wouldn't fancy trying to eat either of them.

Does this law basically make garbage disposals illegal?

As for the recycling logo, many imported items not sold in California but brought in from other states as well as other countries, will have different rules about the logos, particularly with numbers for various containers. In some countries, glass bottles have to be placed in bottle banks where they are crushed before recycling. It is about time international standards were invoked rather than confusing everyone who travels with different rules.


Posted by Citizen
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 31, 2021 at 5:37 pm

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NDAs are how insurers cover their crimes against disaster victims. It's how they cover misdeeds in court. Insurers do horrible things to try to get people to settle, then they make them sign an NDA.

We were offered a post-disaster settlement by our insurer in which they offered ~ $40k to pay off the remaining ~$200,000 of personal losses. This was after years of being on the receiving end of the insurer's strategies to wear down already hurting disaster survivors & get them to settle. It was horrendous. Every aspect of our lives was affected by their machinations; it affects us to this day.

We agreed to settle, but the insurer sent a letter/settlement agreement that not only required an NDA they had never mentioned before, it also mentioned a contractor rebuilding the home in the settlement agreement for our personal effects, when they were unrelated. You see, the same insurer was paying the legal fees of the contractor in the serious construction defects case for that rebuilt home--and probably for some of the subs we hadn't sued (many we didn't think should have been sued), but the contractor had sued them; the cases got consolidated so it was them against us.

We asked the insurer to remove the contractor's name since they said verbally it wasn't related, yet they wouldn't. Thousands in legal fees later, we were told signing the agreement to conclude our fire loss would cost us our rights in the serious construction defects case because of how the insurer had worded their letter. The insurer wouldn't lose the NDA, so we never signed and never concluded our disaster loss. When you go through this, you have to be able to talk about it.They never paid a cent of the remaining loss.

Despite the insurer refusing to pay the remainder of our loss b/c we wouldn't sign the NDA (that we had never agreed to when they agreed to pay it), they still tried telling us we were bound by the NDA! They said: "the check is in my desk"...

More about this law please!



Posted by It.is.what.it.is
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 1, 2022 at 6:51 pm

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Stealthing (removal of a condom during sex without consent) is now illegal in California.

What about when a woman says she is on birth control but is not, and gets pregnant? That should be illegal too.


Posted by AMRW
a resident of another community
on Jan 1, 2022 at 8:50 pm

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Bystander - Any honest plumber will tell you that large pieces of food shouldn't go down your disposal. It's really for little bits of food after scraping plates into the garbage/compost. Here's an analogy. Would you put a bunch of uneaten food in a blender, blend it, all up, and then pour it down your bathroom sink? No. Then don't pour it down your kitchen sink.


Posted by Citizen
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 2, 2022 at 10:13 am

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This article seemed like good news re NDAs, saying they are everywhere and that these will be banned. But I’m not finding whether there is a broad ban (good) or if it is very narrow and limited to employment harassment (lost opportunity).

If the ban does not apply to insurance NDAs then the state has lost a huge opportunity to protect disaster victims. One of the largest insurers, State Farm, was even once sued by some of its own corporate lawyers for being made to do unethical and illegal things, they said. First State Farm tried to block the lawyers from using the documents they had kept to prove their case. When the insurer was unsuccessful, they settled and of course an NDA meant the public never knew what illegal and unethical things the insurer had made their own lawyers do. This was a huge loss for public accountability.

Most people have a naive idea about insurance company incentives. Insurance companies do not always make decisions about what will cost less in any given case. Especially for small claims, they may be very generous to keep people paying those premiums,but depending on the insurer it could be a different story for a catastrophic loss. They don’t necessarily want new laws that will ostensibly save money because they litigate everything to their favor and don’t want change. But they don’t like public disclosures that make them look irrefutably dishonest, for example, because they need people to trust them and keep paying those premiums.

So NDAs are a huge way they cover bad faith behavior. It doesn’t look to me like this law outlaws that. Am I wrong? This law will be hugely beneficial to CA if it was indeed written broadly but I don’t see that.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Jan 2, 2022 at 3:40 pm

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If you watch the video (they're included for a reason) you'll see "California's ban on some non-disclosure agreements." Doctor-patient, attorney-client privilege, pastor-sheep, etc. are NDAs as well. I doubt those are being outlawed. The video also stated if you want more info, see Cal Matters.


Posted by blah
a resident of another community
on Jan 2, 2022 at 5:20 pm

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This is the bill that amended the CA state laws regarding NDAs and took effect on January 1, 2022: Web Link


Posted by OldPA Resident
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jan 3, 2022 at 10:49 am

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To Citizen: if you read the law helpfully referenced in the link above, I think you will find the new law does not cover the situation you mentioned. The law appears to be very narrowly focused. It also permits non-disclosure of the dollar amount of the settlement. The new law is disappointing.


Posted by The Artful Dodger
a resident of Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Jan 3, 2022 at 12:06 pm

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"Stealthing (removal of a condom during sex without consent) is now illegal in California."

Please clarify. Does the 'without consent' refer to heinous crimes such as rape/incest or during casual sex between consenting adults?


Posted by Mondoman
a resident of Green Acres
on Jan 3, 2022 at 5:37 pm

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Re: "Would you put a bunch of uneaten food in a blender, blend it, all up, and then pour it down your bathroom sink?"
Yes, but down the toilet rather than the sink. BTDT.


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