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Sara Cody: COVID-19 could be with us indefinitely

Original post made on Nov 16, 2021

Living with -- not vanquishing -- the COVID-19 virus is likely to become the norm, with people getting booster shots to protect themselves much like they do an annual flu shot, Dr. Sara Cody said on Monday.

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Posted by Bystander
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2021 at 8:43 am

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She is now saying what many of us have been saying for quite some time. We are going to have to learn to live with this. We will make some adjustments of course, but we will have to return to living our lives with this added risk. Some of the adjustments will differ according to our values and our priorities, but being forced into a life of fear is not one of them for most of us.

She said very little about other health issues and their effects. Things like being obese being a factor in how an individual copes with Covid is being underplayed. Also whether issues such as cancer, parkinsons, etc. may make a person's body find it harder to fight the virus.

She also said very little about how the pandemic has affected mental health. Some are finding the adjustments to less interactions with family, friends, social activities, etc. isolating and making it harder to find peace of mind when missing close interaction with loved ones or with activities that are loved. Returning to getting together with people and taking part in much loved activities have to be weighed in with the pros and cons of life.

Lastly compliance certificates, aka vaccine passports, is making for a two tier society. Doing weekly Covid tests and carrying proof of negative test or proof of vaccination is turning us into a card carrying society which is not an American value. Somebody is making a lot of money out of these tests. And expecting a 17 year old restaurant worker to demand to see id from someone old enough to be their grandparent is not a value society should demand.

Posted by Jason Beck
a resident of Woodside
on Nov 16, 2021 at 8:54 am

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This is not rocket science as the SARS Covid-2 virus will continue to mutate.

All we can do is get fully vaccinated, wear a face mask when/if applicable, avoid large public gatherings where thousands may or may not be vaccinated, and initiate further (aka harsher) travel bans from 3rd world countries with low vax rates...including refugees and immigrants seeking asylum.

Posted by mauricio
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Nov 16, 2021 at 9:49 am

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"carrying proof of negative test or proof of vaccination is turning us into a card carrying society which is not an American value"

I'm sure you want everybody arriving in the US to show their passport to the immigration official. When I enter my health club I need to show or scan my membership card. In Costco you also need to scan your member card. I need to show my credit card to pay my restaurant bill, etc, etc.

It is only when life and death matter are concerned, when selfish individuals refuse a vaccination to avoid the spread of a deadly virus that the "card carrying society" argument is brought up by the anti science crowd.

Posted by Bystander
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2021 at 12:37 pm

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Jason. I disagree. I have no problem with passports at immigration or membership at Costco or gyms. In fact, most of those are done by uniformed officials at airports, or by a high tech reader at gyms. Costco still looks for a membership card, but not a drivers license.

I do object to a 17 year old child demanding to see my proof of vaccination as well as my drivers license. That is not the job of a child on minimum wage. If I had a 17 year old demanding to see this at the local McDs I would not be happy and be very concerned about their safety.

I am vaccinated. I will happily show my ID to officials to enter the country or by police if stopped for speeding or similar. I am happy to show my Costco card or my gym membership and have them scanned. After all, these documents do not have personal information. I am wary of anyone other than uniformed officials in non official manners needing to see my ID showing my address, date of birth, etc. Anyone could be standing at a door with a scanner of some sort and we should not be obliged to show this important document to someone who could be using the information for any type of nefarious action.

If you can't see a difference then I believe you are mistaken. My drivers license shows personal information which should not be seen by anyone to buy a burger or see a movie.

Posted by PattiP.
a resident of Professorville
on Nov 16, 2021 at 10:01 pm

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Bystander, If you look at your vaccination card (which you say you have) you would see that it has no personal information other than the fact that you are vaccinated. People charged with verifying your identity have only a moment to verify that the name and the photo is the same; they don't have the time to look or memorize your address. But if you feel better, cover your address and age with a piece of masking tape. As for your age...well your face tells the story there, so not exactly private information. And who cares about the age of the person verifying that your vax card matches your identity? Ridiculous argument. But feel free to ask that an older manager verify that you are vaxed if you want to enter these places.

Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Nov 17, 2021 at 7:37 am

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This is something we'll have to learn to live with. Just like the flu and pneumonia.

As far as the vaccine mandates, I understand both sides. Both sides have valid arguments.

Posted by mauricio
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Nov 17, 2021 at 8:08 am

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My vaccination card doesn't even have my address on it, only the serial number of the injection and the place of vaccination. It contains no more information than a gym card. It doesn't even matter anyway, because unvaccinated people shouldn't even be allowed to enter public areas like stores, airports, restaurants, gyms, health care clinics, etc. Every person, unless excused by a physician must get vaccinated, end of story. If there had been an outbreak of the smallpox virus and one third of the population refused to get vaccinated would we allow them to roam the streets and enter public areas?

Unvaccinated people are selfish and endanger the public. They can, and do, infect other people, some of whom end up losing their lives. The excuse of personal information breach is ridiculous at a time when we carry other cards more than ever and have to show them more frequently than ever.

Posted by PA Community Advocate
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 18, 2021 at 9:09 am

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When people point to controlled experiments and real-world data that disproves the value of your policies, that’s not misinformation. It’s called science.

Sadly our bureaucrats with undeserved and unbounded power due to questionable emergency authorization don’t want to admit this.

Posted by Bystander
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 18, 2021 at 12:20 pm

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Mauricio, unfortunately it is not just the vaccination card that is required. To prevent people borrowing a friend's card, or even buying a fake card, all these places requiring proof of vaccination also require ID also. So it is a two part process, showing vaccinatio card as well as license.

This is where the big problem lies.

Posted by Neal
a resident of Community Center
on Nov 18, 2021 at 4:37 pm

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I really don't understand the issue regarding 17 year olds. They are more than capable of verifying vaccination status. This isn't rocket science. How much more comfortable would you feel if the person was 18 years old? Sounds like a red herring to me.

Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Nov 18, 2021 at 7:03 pm

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I understand the issue with 17 and 16 year old teenagers. They're minors, and they lack life experience. With all the "mask abuse" including people getting shot and killed, the same could happen with vaccine mandates. Health records are more personal than masks. An abusive man could abuse (take a punch) at a kid, especially if it leads to an argument. If you don't think this could happen, especially since it's become political to some. You're naive at best and ignorant at worst. Wise up. A mature adult employee knows how to handle asking for an ID. A kid might not.

I also understand county health orders, and why vaccines mandates are in place. We're still dealing with the pandemic. If this hadn't become political, I believe it would be a smoother ride for all of us.

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