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Man arrested after alleged violent downtown hate crime

Original post made on Oct 12, 2021

Two people were attacked during a violent hate crime assault in downtown Palo Alto early Sunday morning, and the suspect had to be taken into custody with the assistance of a police dog, police said Tuesday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 3:34 PM

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Posted by Samuel L.
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 12, 2021 at 3:41 pm

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PAPD Twitter post gives his name. Why again doesn't PA Online?
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Posted by Optimist Pessimist Realist
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Oct 12, 2021 at 5:46 pm

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Samuel, this publication has its own policy.


Posted by Educator
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 12, 2021 at 6:33 pm

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Hey PA Online, according to GLAAD, homosexual is an offensive term. The term “gay” is preferred.


Posted by It.is.what.it.is
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 12, 2021 at 7:10 pm

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It's a Paly family and it's all over the internet if you want to see the mug and name.


Posted by jvpadojino
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Oct 12, 2021 at 9:15 pm

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Hi @Educator, my name is Jamey Padojino, digital editor at Palo Alto Online. The story has been updated with the preferred term. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.


Posted by Herb Goodman
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 13, 2021 at 8:03 am

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Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Oct 13, 2021 at 9:47 am

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Reading comprehension:

Nowhere in this article does it say the 26 yr. old suspect is gay. The suspect and the young woman were acquaintances. The woman left the party with the victim in his 60s and another man, both of whom she said are gay.

If the suspect is straight and the victim is gay - hate crime. The 26 year old suspect and the woman are probably straight.


Posted by Raul Montez
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Oct 13, 2021 at 10:14 am

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Posted by Madison Barkley
a resident of Barron Park
on Oct 13, 2021 at 12:39 pm

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The assailant could also be charged with elder abuse if 60 is considered old age by the authorities.

Elder abuse is a serious crime.


Posted by TimR
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 13, 2021 at 12:49 pm

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I hope the dog's okay. Seems like he or she bore all the risk in this arrest situation.


Posted by Optimist Pessimist Realist
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Oct 13, 2021 at 3:59 pm

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What’s the bail status of this august member of the Palo Alto community?


Posted by vmshadle
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 13, 2021 at 5:51 pm

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Mr. Goodman, are you a member of the LGBTQ community? I am.

If you aren't, then your speculation about what actually transpired and your attempt to judge whether or not this is a hate crime is inappropriate and out of line.


Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Oct 13, 2021 at 6:23 pm

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I'm not Asian but I don't have to be to recognize that the threats made against the owner of Fuki Sushi and Lydia Kou were hate crimes / hate speech even though PAPD did precious little about either incident.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Oct 13, 2021 at 9:07 pm

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Elder abuse in California is 65 years or older. I agree that this is a simple assault case fueled by jealousy and intoxication.


Posted by Samuel L.
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 14, 2021 at 8:25 am

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Jennifer, this is not simple.assault. this is a hate crime:

"The younger man allegedly attacked the older man, punching him several times while continuing to use anti-gay epithets."

Alcohol/drugs don't excuse the behavior. They lower inhibitors and reveal what's really underneath.


Posted by Darvin Mecklinberg
a resident of Stanford
on Oct 14, 2021 at 8:31 am

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Gay or straight, an overindulgence in alcohol can often bring out the worst in people and this incident is one of many.

Alleged hate crimes cannot all be lumped into the same general category.

Would this have been considered a hate crime if all of the parties involved were transgender?


Posted by Aron Spector
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Oct 14, 2021 at 10:14 am

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""The younger man allegedly attacked the older man, punching him several times while continuing to use anti-gay epithets."

Using anti-gay epithets does not necessarily confirm or deny that the assailant was straight or that this incident was an actual hate crime.

Disparaging remarks related to one's ethnicity and/or sexual identity are frequently used by members of the same groups when angered or threatened (i.e. inner city gang altercations, LGBTQ quarrels, among 'friends', and even within families themselves).

The term 'hate crime' is being overused as a convenient catch-all for everything deemed offensive whether the motives were intentional or not.

A preoccupation with political correctness, cancel culture, and revisionist history has become an obsessive mindset for some but let's not make mountains out of molehills.

And I am speaking as a person of Jewish heritage whose people have endured true hate crimes for centuries.




Posted by Samuel L
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 14, 2021 at 12:10 pm

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California definition of a hate crime:

Penal Code 422.55 PC is the California statute that defines a hate crime as a criminal act committed because of the victim’s actual or perceived:

disability,
gender,
nationality,
race or ethnicity,
religion,
sexual orientation, or
association with a person or group with one or more of these actual or perceived characteristics.

Furrier used slurs while following the group and also while beating on the male victim. Pretty clear that the victim's sexual orientation played a role in the attack, regardless of Furrier's drug and/or alcohol use. He had the mental capacity to evade the police, so he had some level of reasoning ability.


Posted by Paly02
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 14, 2021 at 3:13 pm

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Based upon the above definition of a hate crime, a gay person could beat up another gay person while yelling slurs at them and it would be considered a hate crime. Not sure why people in this comment section seem to think otherwise.


Posted by Lillian Taylor
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 14, 2021 at 3:15 pm

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Posted by Samuel L.
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 14, 2021 at 4:32 pm

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Lillian, read the article not just the comments. Furrier, as far as the article is concerned, is not gay, and there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

Also, look up, or read, the CA definition of a hate crime.


Posted by vegetarian c
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 15, 2021 at 11:14 am

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I’m with TimR —

Horrible event. Tragic. But please keep us updated on the condition of the police canine who was injured during the capture of the suspect.


Posted by Ron Davis
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Oct 15, 2021 at 3:23 pm

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Hatred towards someone or something will always be a prevalent aspect of mankind (aka human nature) as it has been since day one.

Does any rational or sane person actually believe there will ever come a time when everyone loves one another and there will be no more wars, terrorism, or various crimes against humanity?

Highly unlikely.

So the best we can do is just go about our own business (including minding one's own business) and try to avoid unnecessary confrontational situations that speak poorly of the lesser evolved human beings.

To be civilized is to not bother socializing (or getting involved) with the uncivilized.

Bars are a petri dish for potential trouble whether it be a STD, DUI, or a pending altercation all of which could have easily been avoided.




Posted by Aletheia
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Oct 15, 2021 at 4:53 pm

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First of all, I am very sad for the woman and gentleman that were attacked. Just awful. Also, this has all the earmarks of a young man in crisis. Almost certainly drug addiction. Very sad but he's young enough to hopefully turn his life around. They say you have to hit rock bottom before you start to turn your life around. I certainly hope this is his time. My heart goes out not only to the victims but to the family of this young man who are no doubt going through hell right now.


Posted by Trevor Donlevy
a resident of Barron Park
on Oct 16, 2021 at 9:17 am

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This incident could be interpreted in two ways.

First of all, an overindulgence in alcohol consumption most likely played a role in this altercation.

And next would come jealousy.

If the attacker was straight, he might have been jealous or resentful of this young woman being escorted by two gay males.

And if he was gay, he may have been resentful that he was not receiving any further attention from the two gay males as the evening subsided.

The night was still young and perhaps there were unfulfilled expectations.

As far as being a hate crime, this is debatable.


Posted by Optimist Pessimist Realist
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Oct 17, 2021 at 3:04 pm

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Asking again, what is Alexander Furrier’s bail status? Has be bonded out, OR’d or still in jail?


Posted by Paly02
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 17, 2021 at 7:38 pm

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I can't say for sure but I suspect he's out. He's had his first arraignment so far and his plea hearing is in about a month. I don't imagine they'd want to keep him locked up for a month because of Covid.


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