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City looks for help in fighting economic slump

Original post made on Sep 8, 2021

With tax revenues plunging and businesses struggling to stay afloat, Palo Alto's elected leaders agree that they will need plenty of help to reverse the trend and restore prosperity.

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Posted by Citizen
a resident of College Terrace
on Sep 8, 2021 at 10:08 pm

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A plan? Does the city mean like some economic planning? Maybe it should reduce costs (reduce labor costs!), reduce regulations, be more pro business, and generally get out of the way. And btw, no tax on businesses! How counterproductive is that? And don't even think about additional taxes for residents! Hiring some new expensive person just means more city pension costs. Forget it. Allow medical offices to rent at town and country and reduce vacancies! Times have changed, reduce your bloated budget!


Posted by ALB
a resident of College Terrace
on Sep 9, 2021 at 8:28 am

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Losing Frye’s is a blow. Now we need to get a new tenant in Ciné Arts cinema. This movie thester is an important cultural asset to the community. Amazon and buying online harmed Frye’s. Yet the Stanford Mall is thriving and Town & Country is jumping. We do not need urgent care, botox etc. on the ground floor at T&C.
Do you really want to see ambulances rushing in while your eating a meal? Palo Alto Medical Foundation is next door. It makes no sense to upzone retail for Ellis’s T&C to permit medical services. The hire for economic advisor must be vetted and not represent the interests of the real estate developers downtown. Palo Alto is alone on the peninsula as a city with no business tax. Shameful. The CC will not tax small businesses but tax the big players including Visa and Amazon. My concern is the CM will hire an economic advisor who is in the pocket of real estate players in town.


Posted by Name hidden
a resident of Downtown North

on Sep 9, 2021 at 8:48 am

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Posted by Bystander
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 9, 2021 at 8:56 am

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Yes, big box stores are overdue and have been prior to the pandemic.

We have all been shopping in big box stores and online. Pandemic shopping has been for different items many of which are just not available in Palo Alto and had to be bought elsewhere. e.g. Summerwinds was unable to open and yet it is basically outside shopping and yet the same items were available in ACE Hardware and Home Depot - both outside Palo Alto.

Useful, affordable shopping has always had to be done outside and the pandemic made it more noticeable. With local retail forced to close not only did the businesses lose customers, the City lost tax revenue.

Getting CineArts up and running again would definitely help. Also anything recreational that causes us to spend time near at home doing something fun and then of course buying food nearby would help.

Palo Alto has not been helping residents in the way these two sectors have been managed. Now it is definitely time to get PA residents to spend our money near to home and bring more tax dollars into our own coffers rather than Mountain View or Menlo, or wherever.


Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Sep 9, 2021 at 9:53 am

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"The council will review these survey results on Monday as part of a broader discussion of next steps. Council members will also consider a staff recommendation to hire an economic coordinator, a position that will cost between $245,000 and $290,000, according to the department."

What an absurd amount of money! It doesn't take a genius to figure out that replacing retail with offices -- many with their own cafeterias-- that pay nothing into the coffer will depress the economy. It doesn't take a genius to take field trips to neighboring communities like Redwood City, Menlo Park and Los Altos to check out what they're doing to keep their downtowns vibrant with PREDICTABLE regularly scheduled events that people can remember and attend.

It certainly isn't rocket science to know we're worse off than surrounding communities because of our ridiculous over-reliance on the commuters who outnumber us 4:1 and business travelers who aren't traveling because they're safely Zooming.

Past city councils and city "leaders" past and and present should be held to account for ther decisions. Evicting 85 President Hotel long-term residents who used to spend money downtown for a high-end under-parked hotel comes to mind as one of their worst decisions.

You can send that $250,000+ salary to my Swiss bank account and I'll give you a break on our unfunded pension liabilities.


Posted by Evergreen Park
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Sep 9, 2021 at 11:11 am

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I am in favor of the City hiring an economic development manager, but not one with such a narrow portfolio. What is needed is someone to help guide the City more broadly to determine how to position Palo Alto vis-a-vis other nearby communities. What would make Palo Alto different from Stanford Shopping and Town & Country? How many restaurants and private gyms can Palo Alto support if we do not have 85K commuters going in to work? In other words, how do we make Palo Alto a great place for residents to live and shop in and a great place for others outside Palo Alto to make a trip for shopping or dining? I go to downtown Los Altos to shop all the time rather than California Ave (because there are few retail stores left on California Ave, having been driving out by the restaurants and gyms) and definitely downtown Palo Alto which is hard to find a place to park and know where to park given the street closure and which is dirty and not very pleasant. It is a place to get in and out of as fast as possible. Downtown Los Altos -- small but diverse retail environment, easy parking, clean and spacious. Hands down the best choice right now.


Posted by Longtime Resident
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 9, 2021 at 11:30 am

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What draws me to shop regularly at T & C and downtown Los Altos is their diverse and useful array of businesses and pleasant places to eat or have a cup of coffee. They are both kept clean and have ample parking. Midtown shopping center has great potential and perhaps it would attract more business interest if it would be cleaned up and maintained.


Posted by Unnamed
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 9, 2021 at 1:41 pm

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Big box stores make sense. Those stores were restricted in order to avoid traffic but without them here all Palo Alto residents get in their cars to drive to a big box store in a surrounding city. Hiring another high cost administrator makes no sense. In over 10 years serving on a Palo Alto volunteer committee I was appalled by the small portion of time actually spent by City administrators doing the critical work of their job. More than 50 -60% of their time is spent on wild proposals by the Council or preparing for meetings that are mainly "feel good" meetings for the citizens. Hire a consultant to give the City sound and specific action items to pursue to attract businesses that will benefit PA citizens.


Posted by What Will They Do Next
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Sep 9, 2021 at 2:00 pm

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And yet the city just sent a check of nearly a quarter million dollars to a small town, San Juan Lacheo, Mexico to offset OUR use of natural gas, and a total of 3.6 million since 2017 as reported by the Daily Post yesterday. The payments are funded through Palo Alto residents' energy bills and will be used to pay for people who maintain the forest and supplies for schools. City resource manager Micah Babbitt said" the funds will go further in their local economy and we wanted to show our commitment." Huh ?


Posted by Forever Name
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 9, 2021 at 3:48 pm

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This dire situation falls squarely on SCC Health Director Sarah Cody, and the SCC Board of Supervisors for following Cody's orders. Under the direction of SCCounty Health Director Sarah Cody, beginning in March 2020, SCC pursued an agressive strategy of unnecessary, arbitrary, ineffectual business shutdowns for months and months, back and forth giving business owners whiplash, until businesses finally said enough and pushed back. In addition, SCC fined its already struggling businesses exponentially more than any other county! San Mateo took a completely different, and more reasonable approach, than SCC Health Dept under Health Director Cody. SCC fined businesses $5million!!! The next highest total from another county was $80k. SCC under Cody's direction was essentially TRYING to put companies out of business, and they clearly succeeded.

The worst part is that facts show these arbitrary shutdowns created another public health emergency with people out of work, businesses shut down, employees losing salaries and healthcarAll while she remained comfortable in a county job, which ironically she was then given a raise for just doing the job she was hired to do! NEVER EVER EVER again should our county and city allow a Health Director to shut down schools and businesses like this while the laptop class sits pretty at home. The evidence is overwhelming that it was WRONG and Palo Alto will be digging itself out of this mess for YEARS that SCC Health Director Cody created unnecessarily. And who lost the most? Those who had the most to lose. SCCHD Cody business shutdowns were a travesty.


Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Sep 9, 2021 at 4:00 pm

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Speaking of our energy bills, so what's happening to our refunds from the class action suits for the "overcharges" the city's charged us for the last several years to the tune of $20,000,000 each and every year?? And the have the nerve to say we're getting a 3.5% rate hike this year and 5% in each of the next 2 following years!

Our City Attorney says that's fine because we obviously don't object and even if we did, 11,000 of us would have to "show our commitment" by jumping through multiple hoops to even get our objections registered!


Posted by Rebecca Eisenberg
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Sep 15, 2021 at 3:21 am

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Shocker. Palo Alto Weekly: Are you ever going to reconsider your endorsements? These are the geniuses you encouraged readers to vote for, while we other candidates were "misguided" or "uninformed" when we claimed that the city cannot sustain without expanding its revenue bases by doing what all neighbor cities do and tax the largest businesses that cause the most traffic, contribute most to the housing crisis, and consume the most resources. Now, given your rejection of economic planning, Palo Alto City Council will resort to even more counterproductive "solutions" like bringing in big box superstores.... all to avoid asking Tesla, Alphabet, Facebook, and Palantir to pay the very same business taxes they pay in every city they have offices other than Palo Alto. Do you still think you judged this correctly?


Posted by Rebecca Eisenberg
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Sep 15, 2021 at 3:24 am

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Online name: Over the past six months, City Council has voted to spend approximately $100,000 more on lawyers to defend the lawsuit they already lost, and to delay the payment of the $12 million that the Court ruled that the City of Palo Alto owes us, the residents.

In other words: City Council is spending taxpayer money on its effort to deprive taxpayers of the $12 million that the City of Palo Alto illegally stole from us. What could be lower integrity than that?


Posted by Bystander
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 15, 2021 at 9:19 am

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Opening University to cars will not reverse an economic slump that is primarily due to pandemic changes in how we live our lives.

The economics that had office workers streaming into town five days a week, spending money at lunch time and in the evenings, is not happening and will not happen until or unless remote working ends.

The economics that had friends socializing after work at a bar or restaurant in a convenient to all location, does not happen when people are working at home and using UberEats for dinner.

The economics that had someone needing new clothes for a social event, an interview, a vacation will not be necessary until all those events return in person in the numbers that they were in before.

The economics that had a family who needed to replace bedlinen or towels with a trip to the big box store, or a list of school supplies, or gift for a baby or bridal showers, will not happen when it is just as easy to buy online and get delivery the next day.

Economically speaking, we were heading there anyway. The pandemic has rushed that. Some will never return to visiting brick and mortar stores ever.


Posted by NeilsonBuchanan
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 16, 2021 at 3:06 pm

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The San Jose Mercury published article today about new shops and stores at Santana Row. An easy solution would be to copy the best practices in competing towns and cities. I vote strpngly for new shop at Santana...... Left Wings Bar.... what could be better than Korean chicken wings and beer?


Posted by TimR
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 16, 2021 at 4:31 pm

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How about making downtown actually inviting and enjoyable to civilized human beings, by removing the homeless living there? Or is that too much to ask, because the rights of homeless trump all other rights?


Posted by Jeremy Erman
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 18, 2021 at 8:34 pm

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I don't understand why city officials want to hire a new "economic coordinator" and/or an economic consultant to improve the city's business climate. This sounds like work that should be done by existing staff of the Planning and Development department in coordination with other departments. City officials keep saying they don't have enough money and need to cut services and staff, so really, what other option do they have? In the middle of a budget crisis, surely using existing staff is the most effective, cost-effective and efficient way to promote economic development in the city.


Posted by Skibum
a resident of Community Center
16 hours ago

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Does the City have data for vacancy rates at different commercial zones: Downtown, California Avenue, Town & Country, Stanford Shopping Center, El Camino, Mid-Town, etc.? Commercial land usage takes different forms: shops, restaurants, offices, medical/dental, services, etc. The temporary closure of commercial streets to auto traffic benefitted restaurants that could offer outdoor dining, whereas shops reported less patronage. But, how much of the lost shopping revenue was a shift to online? The online shift may not revert to the status quo ante, insofar as it offers genuine convenience and other advantages. Query how revenue decrease and vacancy increase where auto traffic was not reduced (e.g., Town & Country or El Camino) compare to Downtown and Cal. Ave.? This may reveal the extent of new online shopping preferences and suggest that re-engineering of Downtown and Cal. Ave. auto traffic would be a lasting benefit.


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