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Newsom, lawmakers agree to $600 stimulus checks plus boost for undocumented workers

Original post made on Feb 18, 2021

California has worked out a plan to provide more cash for struggling residents, particularly undocumented families left out of federal aid.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, February 18, 2021, 9:08 AM

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Posted by What Will They Do Next
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 18, 2021 at 12:18 pm

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So let me get this straight .... Newsome wants to provide legal Californians with a $600 stimulus check, but those who are here illegally will get that plus an additional $600, bringing their total to $1200.
And some people are still puzzled as to why there is a recall effort. After the vote, Gavin will be gone for good and I might add that all Californians will be better off. The people have had enough of his failed attempt at governance, and his hypocrisy.


Posted by Just Sayin'
a resident of another community
on Feb 18, 2021 at 12:58 pm

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"If a man has an apartment stacked to the ceiling with newspapers, we call him crazy.
If a woman has a trailer house full of cats, we call her nuts.

When people pathologically hoard so much money that they impoverish an entire nation, we put them on the cover of Fortune magazine and pretend that they are role models."
(Author/source unknown)


Posted by Novelera
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 18, 2021 at 1:48 pm

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Didn't have to wait long for the expected curmudgeon to post. I work with undocumented people who have tried and tried to achieve legal status. One woman who cleans our office succeeded in getting a green card after living here for 25 years. And this was only achieved with the financial help of her brother and his wife, who managed to get amnesty under the presidency of Ronald Reagan in 1986. This whole thing makes me crazy. These undocumented construction workers that are employed by my company pay federal and state taxes. They pay into social security, although none of the funds will ever be correctly accounted for since they have to use false social security numbers. These people are skilled and loyal workers. They are not going back to Mexico and it's ridiculous that this insanity of denying that they deserve legal status needs to stop.


Posted by Javier
a resident of another community
on Feb 18, 2021 at 1:52 pm

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This is much welcomed news.

Ordinarily, many undocumented family members and my friends would be reluctant to apply for such benefits fearing possible deportation.

But President Joe Biden has rescinded former President Trump's draconian restrictions on illegal immigration and has officially declared the United States a sanctuary country. He has also curtailed ICE intervention so they can no longer detain law-abiding undocumented workers and families.

Governor Newsome is merely extending President Biden's progressive vision and there will be many needy families and individuals who benefit from this Golden State Stimulus program.

All things considered, $1200.00 will not go very far in today's economy but every little bit helps.

As a DACA, I too am grateful for this humanitarian gesture on the part of Governor Newsome who in many ways reflects the vision of JFK and all of the benevolent Democrats who unlike the greedy Republicans, continually do their best to create social and monetary programs to benefit the poor.

This is one reason why the Latino vote (with exception of conservative Latinos in Florida and New Mexico) will NEVER support a Republican ticket.

Next on the agenda should be a measure to allow undocumented workers to vote because many are having state and federal deductions witheld from their paychecks but who will never legally qualify for Medicare or Social Security because they are not using their real names or using fake social security numbers to get a job here in the United States.

The big joke is on former President Trump as President Biden has ceased construction of the wall between Mexico and the United States.

You see most of us are not drug traffickers but simply people immigrating to America for a better life, just like the majority of your WHITE ancestors.


Posted by Me 2
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 18, 2021 at 2:06 pm

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"who in many ways reflects the vision of JFK and all of the benevolent Democrats who unlike the greedy Republicans"

I guess you don't dive into history that much. Those "benevolent" Democrats helped to torpedo immigration reform because the unions didn't like that it would ostensibly take jobs away.

Who's greedy here?


Posted by Javier
a resident of another community
on Feb 18, 2021 at 2:19 pm

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@Me 2

Historically you are correct to a certain extent BUT it was the wealthy Republicans who endorsed and exploited the cheap labor of imported workers, many of whom were undocumented.

The wealthy Republican ranchers and manufacturers were modern day WHITE slaveowners who paid their undocumented workers pennies on the dollar and kept them in perpetual poverty.

I am DACA and currently studying history in college. My professors have pointed out many of these distasteful historical accounts citing Harding, Hoover, Nixon and Trump (all Republicans) as the worst presidents in the history of this nation.

Cesar Chavez stood up to the greedy WHITE Republican ranchers in the Central Valley where I am from. That is why there is a street named after him in San Francisco.


Posted by Me 2
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 18, 2021 at 4:14 pm

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"My professors have pointed out many of these distasteful historical accounts citing Harding, Hoover, Nixon and Trump (all Republicans) as the worst presidents in the history of this nation."

I presume you also studied Abraham Lincoln, a Republican? And all those Jim Crow laws passed by Southern Democrats? Wars that were started during the Wilson, Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy administrations? The rage against the military-industrial complex by Eisenhower, a Republican?

Inconvenient truths, as someone might say.

History is not so clean, isn't it? Using labels to paint whole groups of people with such a broad brush is, how we say, simplistic and not truthful?

Might want to expand your studying of history beyond what your professors are pushing. Sounds like they're pushing an ideology, not history.


Posted by Bobby Munoz
a resident of another community
on Feb 18, 2021 at 4:44 pm

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Me 2 is absolutely correct.

Abraham Lincoln (Republican) was a white racist who only wanted to keep the Union intact. He did not personally care about black people.

There is an upcoming cable documentary hosted by Will Smith that exposes Lincoln for who he really was.

No wonder the San Francisco School District is removing his name from one of its high schools along with George Washington as they were both cut from the same cloth.

And Franklin Roosevelt (progressive Democrat) signed the Executive Order than incarcerated thousands of loyal Japanese-Americans in internment camps during WW2.

All politics is dirty regardless of party affiliation.

The only key point is that it was the white politicians who did these dirty deeds so that makes them all RACIST and not be trusted by people of color.


Posted by Silver Linings
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 18, 2021 at 5:58 pm

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Lincoln cared. If not, he wouldn’t have pushed emancipation & would have lived out his life without being assassinated by a virulent racist.

It’s misleading to defend Republicans by citing Lincoln or Southern Democrats. The parties swapped many priorities around 1930’s

Eisenhower would be a liberal Democrat today per GOP. He invested heavily in infrastructure, education and overseas assistance, believed in balanced budgets & for the wealthiest to pay their fair share - highest marginal tax rates were ~ 90%.

Ike, while not perfect, had integrity and distrusted concentrations of wealth and power for the corrosive effect on democracy. His party would never have been so utterly dishonest with the public and themselves for the purpose of their hold on power and top tax cuts, which seems to be all the modern GOP stands for.

@ Bobby,
It’s probably true that all politicians lie at some point, but a false equivalence to say it’s all the same. If you don’t see the corrosive impact of the “industrial lying” of the GOP, then Jan 6 was just a warm up (see GOP strategist Stuart Stevens’ book re: GOP “industrial lying” with no equivalence on the left).

Modern GOP lawmakers keep lying, never take responsibility for anything but instead blame others constantly for what they are guilty of. It’s anticompetitive, unethical, and hurting our nation. They can say they favor various values, but if they are so unwilling to face truth of the outcome of their ideology or how antithetical their behavior is to those stated values, they’re really working against them.

Economic research shows: when a Democratic President is in office, the economy does better, has for 100 years when they’ve had similar priorities to today), despite differences in term lengths, etc. ~ 12 of the last 13 recessions began under Republicans. A recent NYT article stated if we’d had growth rates as under (modern) Democrats the last 100 years, we’d all be making twice as much today.

Newsom has a tough row now


Posted by James Rivers
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 18, 2021 at 6:31 pm

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There are a couple of quotes from historians and I forgot who said what.

One was "History is a fable agreed upon" and "History is written by the victors."

That said and keeping in mind that history is purely subjective and not a science...Lincoln and other historical figures were a myth as were various accounts of wars and accurate depictions of Christ.


Posted by Me 2
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 18, 2021 at 6:42 pm

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Hilarious. What a bunch of undergraduate-level ethnic studies viewpoints.

If you just assume that there is a single monolithic GOP, I assume Democrats are all the same? As corrupt as Feinstein and Maxine Waters? Or maybe as anti-Semitic as Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib?

What a bunch of tribal nonsense.


Posted by Ping Li
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Feb 18, 2021 at 7:05 pm

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White people can be Racist as this appears to be their nature, at least in America.

But racism persists elsewhere in the world as well. Where I am from, my former country is persecuting Chinese Muslims and that is morally and ethically wrong.

This is why so many people from other countries want to immigrate to the United States and America should welcome all of them regardless of their backgrounds or socio-economic status.


Posted by L. Fetters
a resident of another community
on Feb 19, 2021 at 5:54 am

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It should be noted that extended non-citizen families or couples residing in their children's ADUs or even a spare bedroom can claim this recently announced Cal State benefit.

Which means that many recently arrived immigrants from Asia or elsewhere are also eligible for the stimulus payment providing their yearly earnings fall below maximum annual income ceiling which easily applies to many of them.

As a social services analyst employed by the State of California, I encourage and urge ALL undocumented immigrants who qualify to apply for this one-time stimulus payment.


Posted by Amrit Mehta
a resident of Mountain View
on Feb 19, 2021 at 7:06 am

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This is good information as both my elder parents will qualify for the stimulus payments among others.


Posted by M. Devereaux
a resident of another community
on Feb 19, 2021 at 11:15 am

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Anyone who qualifies for the California stimulus benefit payment should apply regardless of whether they are residing with their more affluent children and happen to be undocumented immigrants.

The money is there for the asking and every little bit helps during these rough economic times.

The state and federal governments waste enough tax-payer dollars as it is so if a $600.00 to $1200.00 state check is readily available for those who qualify, why turn it down?


Posted by Shawonne Davis
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Feb 19, 2021 at 1:12 pm

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Quoting Silver Linings....

"Lincoln cared. If not, he wouldn’t have pushed emancipation & would have lived out his life without being assassinated by a virulent racist."

Now quoting Abraham Lincoln addressing freed African-American slaves during the Civil War...

"Your race are suffering, in my judgment, the greatest wrong inflicted on any people, but even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race.”

"There is an unwillingness on the part of our people, harsh at it may be, for you, free colored people, to remain with us, it is better for us both, therefore, to be separated. The place I am thinking about having for a colony is Central America.”

"Consider what we know to be the truth, but for your race among us, there could not be war.”

"There is an unwillingness on the part of our people, harsh at it may be, for you, free colored people, to remain with us. It is better for us both, therefore, to be separated. The place I am thinking about having for a colony is Central America.”

^ Seriously? Abraham Lincoln was a white RACIST and it is no wonder the San Francisco School District is removing his name from any and all of their public schools.


Posted by Lindsay A.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Feb 19, 2021 at 1:33 pm

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Very unbecoming of our 16th President who to this day receives false credit for his role in freeing the black slaves.

There is a CNN special this Sunday evening where historians will finally dispel the MYTH of Lincoln.

The Lincoln Memorial in DC should be renamed and his statue removed, replaced with a civil rights leader or a historically significant African American figure.

And the same goes for the copper penny and five dollar bill.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Feb 19, 2021 at 3:00 pm

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Undocumented immigrants (illegal aliens) shouldn't get ONE DIME. What part of they're here ILLEGALLY don't people understand. Money should help legal citizens. Don't we deport illegals, not give them free money?

Recall Newsom!



Posted by Preston Monafort
a resident of another community
on Feb 19, 2021 at 3:03 pm

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If Lincoln wasn't a racist then pigs can fly.

...a speech Lincoln delivered in 1858 in Charleston, Ill.:

“I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races—that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people;"

African Americans who hold Abraham Lincoln in high esteem are either in denial of reality & ignorant of their ancestral history.

We were all brainwashed in elementary school and only now are the walls of deceit & mistruths crumbling.


Posted by ruben marquez
a resident of Mountain View
on Feb 19, 2021 at 4:19 pm

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@Jennifer

Governor Newsome allocated' over $11.5B in unauthorized pandemic-relief unemployment benefits to ILLEGAL recipients in Russia, China, Nigeria and prison inmates throughout California.

Many undocumented immigrants actually work for a living in California at menial jobs. Now given the choice, what is worse....the massive EDD benefits paid out to foreigners and convicts OR a meager one-time only $600.00 check to
those who maintain your landscaping, changes your sheets in hotels, or does your laundry etc.?

As for Lincoln, he was a fraud who also authorized the killing of 57 Native Americans to get them off land that the government had assigned them as part of a previous treaty.

He didn't care about Indians or black people, just white man economic interests which included the preservation of the Union.

The earlier comment about Lincoln's assassin being a 'virulent racist' is partially true as Boothe was an anti-abolitionist...Lincoln was just more subtle in his personal agenda, a smooth-talker that some historians compare to Bill Clinton.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Feb 19, 2021 at 8:44 pm

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ruben -- Which is worse? Both. The one time stimulus checks should go to legal citizens who are making less than 30K. People on social security, disability, low wage workers (who are here LEGALLY) or anyone who might be unemployed with zero income. Anyone here illegally should get nothing. I don't care if they're making beds in hotels. Unless you're here legally you shouldn't be hired. They're taking away jobs from legal citizens, and yes -- low wage Americans will take those jobs. There are more than a few Americans with less than a high school education, and their job options are limited.


Posted by Rupert Johnson
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Feb 20, 2021 at 7:00 am

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I agree with Jennifer's comments.

Undocumented immigrants (aka illegal aliens) should not be receiving any California state stimulus benefits regardless of whether they are poor working minorities here illegally or elder minorities from Asia and elsewhere here illegally and residing with their working children who are making good incomes as Google employees or health care professionals.

The monetary resources should only go to actual AMERICAN citizens enduring economic hardships due to the pandemic.

The ease of access to social services including medical care and monetary assistance is why so many people from abroad wish to immigrate to this country.

And this constant migration has absolutely nothing to do with seeking political asylum or humanitarian assistance.

'Land of the free' has taken on a new meaning for some and Governor Newsome's reckless fiscal decisions only perpetuate the problem.

There are currently 1.4 million signatures on the recall petition and 500,000 more needed to place his removal on the CA ballot.

True Republicans and moderate Democrats need to intervene and finally bring an end to the Newsome tenure of office.





Posted by Miriam LaTorre
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Feb 20, 2021 at 11:35 am

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If Gavin Newsome had any hopes or intentions of becoming a future presidential candidate on the Democratic ticket, those options have since vanished.

Potential and future undocumented immigrants need to further explore economic opportunities in their homelands as that is the only way they can build their countries. Then maybe fewer will find the need to come to America.


Posted by Reverend Beecham
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 21, 2021 at 12:51 pm

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@ Jennifer

Where is your Christian spirit of giving and sharing towards others?

Does it truly matter if one is an actual American citizen or a hard-working undocumented immigrant in this country illegally?

Consider asking yourself if Jesus would draw a line in these matters and then ask yourself if you are following in his footsteps.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Feb 21, 2021 at 3:20 pm

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I give and share towards others (as a Christian) whether people are here legally or illegally. Like volunteering yesterday at a church food pantry, where more that a few clients aren't here legally. The food is donated from grocery stores (food they're going to throw away) and it doesn't cost anyone a dime. Feeding the poor is in the Bible. It's not in the Bible to give tax dollars to people who are here illegally. I draw the line on my tax dollars. If that makes me a sinner - so be it. We're all sinners. Enabling people who are here illegally (with our tax dollars) isn't something I believe in. And yes -- to me it does matter if you're here legally or illegally. That money we're giving to illegal aliens should be given to people on social security, disability, or workers (or the unemployed) who make less than 30K. Until we can take care of our own (LEGAL Americans) we shouldn't give our money away to those who are breaking the law to be here. especially if hard working taxpayers are paying for it.

End of sermon.


Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Feb 21, 2021 at 9:40 pm

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The sheer illogic of politicians rewarding and attracting more often-dependent, undereducated undocumented persons here makes me shake my head.
I don’t oppose a seasonal farm worker entry program.
Why bother showing your passport when YOU fly somewhere or enter this country, while certain economic immigrants are invited in, released, and even prioritized for Covid vaccines?
Free medical, births.
I understand (long deceased) famous farm labor leader Cesar Chavez wanted a guest worker program, correct me if I’m wrong.
Should his name be removed, too?

Recall Governor Gavin Newsom. Democrat, hypocrite who dined at The French Laundry while over-exercising executive “powers” to lecture Californians on severe Covid-related restrictions on our personal freedoms, movements.
I am a registered Democrat, but oppose Newsom. Very poor “leader.” Look up his shenanigans while mayor of San Francisvo, wow, talk about sleazy behavior.


Posted by Judith
a resident of Southgate
on Feb 22, 2021 at 7:07 am

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quoting Jennifer...

"I give and share towards others (as a Christian) whether people are here legally or illegally. Like volunteering yesterday at a church food pantry, where more that a few clients aren't here legally. The food is donated from grocery stores (food they're going to throw away) ...I draw the line on my tax dollars. If that makes me a sinner - so be it. We're all sinners."

and now quoting the Bible...

"Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others."
Matthew 6:2

Lastly...

"You cannot serve both God and money."
Luke 16:13

"When people ask you for something, give it to them."
Matthew 5:42

Tossing 'throwaway' food to the needy & patting oneself on the back is not what Jesus had in mind.

Nor is holding back one's money from the needy.

Jesus believed in paying one's taxes but he says nothing about how these funds are to be allocated.

Gavin Newsome is also blowing his own trumpet...but he is a politician.



Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2021 at 8:30 am

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Judith - Mr. Beckham asked me "where is your Christian spirit" and I answered his question. I'm not patting myself on the back. It's not in the Bible to give taxpayer money to illegal aliens. Get real.

Recalling Newsom and having a governor that isn't progressive is the only logical thing to do. Otherwise. California is will end up more of a mess than it already is. Liberals have ruined California, and liberals I know are willing to admit it.


Posted by Del Collins
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2021 at 9:54 am

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I tend to agree with Jennifer. Our tax monies could be better spent (i.e. towards statewide infrastructure improvements) and Jesus never mentioned anything about providing for undocumented immigrants in the Bible.

Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) and as noted by another poster, undocumented immigrants who are already financially secure and residing with their children professionally employed in the high-tech and/or medical fields are also eligible to receive these state stimulus payments.

It seems one-sided as Jennifer has pointed out in her rebuttal, to focus one's wrath primarily towards the poor and undocumented immigrants who are struggling to make ends meet.

This perspective in itself is very un-Christian-like as Jesus had true empathy for the poor while chastising the wealthy.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Feb 22, 2021 at 10:48 am

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Reading the news every day the International Section is usually in the front section. Who is in the News? Nigeria - One race - different religions performing unspeakable actions to each other. Libya - people in refuge camps trying to get in a little boat to escape to Europe. Macron of France is trying to recognize their past colonial connections to correct the problems that are now occurring in Europe relative to the immigrants which have a different religion. The topic is bigger that the US. It is Europe's problem as they are arguing over who is suppose to absorb the migrants in the EU countries. The EU is trying to disperse the migrants to specific countries who are now objecting. Europe is the point of origin of colonization. The point of origin of slavery in Africa was well established before the North American continent was colonized. We need to help these countries provide a living for their residents.

WE do not have to assume responsibility for world issues as though we created those issues. The State of CA cannot absorb more people - right now we have a huge number of people who are out of work, out of a home, out of resources.


Posted by A. Washington
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Feb 22, 2021 at 11:29 am

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@ resident 1-Adobe Meadows

In YOUR words,

"Europe is the point of origin of colonization. The point of origin of slavery in Africa was well established before the North American continent was colonized. We need to help these countries provide a living for their residents."

^ As someone noted awhile back, 99% of these racial problems can be traced back to WHITE people regardless of whether they were WHITE western Europeans or WHITE Americans.

So cough up some serious dough and make good on all that was stolen or exploited by the WHITE man.

Then we will talk as subsidized government handouts don't work, agreed.

Talk is cheap and passing the buck doesn't cut it.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Feb 22, 2021 at 11:41 am

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It would be interesting if everyone took ownership of their respective histories. PBS is running the Africa- Great Civilizations series which starts with the beginning of the human race in Africa. It all started there and then people fanned out to other locations around the world. Great tribal leaders were in charge of areas and built kingdoms. They used other people to help build those kingdoms. They fought wars. They developed huge trading activities with other nations because they had huge resources.
Own the history. Yes - passing the buck does not cut it. White people did not build the great temples and pyramids in Africa - that was one tribal king using other tribes to do that.

You all now are American citizens - you have access to schools, jobs. That is the pay-off that all of those refugees in Libya are looking for.


Posted by R. Cavendish
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2021 at 12:06 pm

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According to Resident 1-Adobe Meadows:

"White people did not build the great temples and pyramids in Africa - that was one tribal king using other tribes to do that."

∆ Historically correct but the practice of exploiting the labor of fallen tribes & defeated countries is not a viable excuse for past societal wrongdoings.

Perhaps the United States government should seriously consider monetary reparations to all legitimate American-citizen descendants of African slaves brought over and sold to work the southern plantations.

Around $400K per descendant would be a reasonable starting point given post 1865 inflation, cost of living, and in deference to General Sherman's promise of '40 acres and a mule' to all freed slaves following the Civil War.

Maybe then we can begin to move forward as only fiscally-neurotic Republicans and blatant or closet racists would oppose such compensation.


Posted by edith hensley
a resident of Crescent Park
on Feb 22, 2021 at 2:58 pm

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"...Jesus had true empathy for the poor while chastising the wealthy."

Agreeing but Jennifer apparently begs to differ if the recipient of these state-mandated stimulus payments are poor, non-American citizens, many of whom are employed and exploited by unscrupulous employers with a keen eye for watching the bottom line (aka payroll overhead).

Her viewpoint is reflective of a white, conservative, self-professed Christian Republican voter and a primary reason America remains a land of haves and have-nots.

When one's kingdom is based on the dollar sign (or a preoccupation with tax dollars), the kingdom of God will ultimately leave that individual in its wake.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2021 at 3:40 pm

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Edith - What part of ILLEGAL don't you understand? If you or I do something illegally, we can be tried in a court of law and sent to prison. But yet you think it's okay to be here illegally, work here illegally (with fake social security numbers) and get stimulus payments from our tax dollars (unethically). If they're being "exploited" they shouldn't be employed. Your mindset is typical for an enabler, which is what progressives are. They've destroyed California and America. For the record -- I'm a moderate and you have no idea what party I am.


Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Feb 22, 2021 at 3:55 pm

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What is interesting here is that we have had 5 generations of people going to school, being in business, being in politics, being in theatre world and yet a bunch of people have reverted to when people got off the ships. It is like 5 generations have not existed? So who wants reparations? Oprah? Gale King? Whoopie Goldberg? Corey Booker? Barack Obama - he was never in the south? People on the Warriors? NFL?
Reality - a lot of people have gone to school, got good jobs, applied themselves to work and family, and are doing good. It is like half have not recognized the role models that are in front of their faces and prefer to claim role models of people from multiple generations ago - a different time and period of the world. No recognition of the value of education. The government has instituted many programs supporting all.


Posted by Francisco DeLaCruz
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2021 at 4:09 pm

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Jennifer says, "What part of ILLEGAL don't you understand?"

The question is Jennifer, "What part of LEGAL do you not comprende?"

BTW...comprende means 'understand' in Spanish.

President Biden has declared the ENTIRE nation a 'sanctuary' country which means that ICE activities have been severly curtailed when it comes to wrongful deportations of non-criminal undocumented immigrants.

Which also means that ALL of the undocumented immigrants (regardless of their race, color, or creed) in California are ALL 'legally' eligible to receive the state-mandated stimulus payment of $600.00 to $1200.00.

Undocumented immigrants are no longer ILLEGAL aliens but members of American society.

Kudos to the progressive Democrats for promoting this societal ideal as conservative Republicans would mostly likely nix the concept because the majority of them do not care about people, just bean-counting dollar signs.

Your presumed savior Jesus would be proud of this humanitarian endeavor and it would have his blessings.

Comprende?


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2021 at 5:00 pm

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Undocumented immigrants ARE here ILLEGALLY. Ignorance of the law is beside the point.

Illegal immigrants and their children cost the state of California a net $30.79 BILLION per year. This equates to $7,352 per illegal alien, or roughly 17.7 percent of California state budget.

If $30.79 billion per year doesn't tick you off as a taxpayer, you probably aren't one. Or you're clueless.

Understand? And yes -- anyone from any country who is here illegally should be deported. It happens, and rightfully so. Biden is an enabler as well.


Posted by Magdalene Rosa
a resident of another community
on Feb 22, 2021 at 7:21 pm

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Jennifer...your points were well taken from a fiscal standpoint but I must ask, did these state expenditures on behalf of undocumented immigrants directly impact your family's well-being?

In other words, did you and your family struggle to buy food, pay the utilities, meet your medical expenditures or experience difficulties purchasing clothing due to any state sanctioned benefits being dispersed to undocumented immigrants?

If so, you have a right to criticize the upcoming stimulus payments to be distributed to various non-citizens.

If not, ask yourself...is simply dispersing disposable foodstuffs to needy families (that you and your organization got for free) a personally gratifying gesture of your own Christian spirit?

Outside of maybe picking the food items up and stuffing them in bags, were there any real sacrifices on your part outside of a few hours of personal time and maybe some gas? Has your inner soul been truly uplifted?

It is not for me to judge but to merely ask as you can only answer this question on your own terms and from within your heart.

In closing, God bless you Jennifer and may you walk in the light of a true Christian spirit.

Sister Magdalene


Posted by Homeless/MV
a resident of Mountain View
on Feb 22, 2021 at 8:41 pm

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Some of these so-called church and community distributors of outdated grocery items pick-up the surplus foodstuffs from the supermarkets and then rummage through the inventory first, keeping the good stuff like fancy bakery items for themselves while leaving the remnants like old bread, old fruit, outdated eggs and stale cookies for the eventual recipients.

I have personally witnessed this practice but some folks will say that beggars cannot be choosers. To me this is not very charitable but perhaps those actively involved in the practice of 'pre-screening' preferable food items think otherwise as they are performing what they believe is their Christian duty to serve the needy.


Posted by Estelle
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Feb 23, 2021 at 6:44 am

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Resident 1-Adobe Meadows writes:

So who wants reparations? Oprah? Gale King? Whoopie Goldberg? Corey Booker? Barack Obama - he was never in the south? People on the Warriors? NFL?

No silly. Not the wealthy and successful African Americans but rather the poor and disenfranched descendents of slaves who lack the professional skills of those you have listed as YOUR examples.

$400,000.00 to every African American citizen earning below $75,000.00 would be a good starting point.


Posted by Peter Colton
a resident of Los Altos
on Feb 23, 2021 at 7:20 am

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@Jennifer

I believe the term illegal alien is no longer PC.

Aliens are from outer space and some scientists believe they are already here among us.

Hopefully they will not be signing up to receive stimulus checks as well.


Posted by Alvin Klepper
a resident of another community
on Feb 23, 2021 at 9:13 am

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It is very un-Christian to be preoocupied with one's taxes and whether certain individuals are receiving stimulus checks.


Posted by R. Cavendish
a resident of another community
11 hours ago

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Unlike Jennifer (who is entitled to her fiscal mindset), given how our tax-payer dollars are spent/wasted by politicians (primarily Democrats) and useless government bureaucrats anyway, passing along $600.00 to an undocumented immigrant working here in America doesn't bother me all that much.

Besides, $600.00 doesn't go very far to begin with.

If anyone should have their pay docked (or contribute to this stimulus package out of pocket), it's Governor Newsome based on his fiscal mismanagement of the state EDD program, scaredy-cat public health-related business closures, and hypocracy when it comes to practicing safe-distancing and SIP protocols that he himself mandated.

Bon appetit Gavin and may you eventually be recalled and run out of office like a previously fiscally-inept California Democratic governor named Gray Davis.


Posted by R. Cavendish
a resident of another community
11 hours ago

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Unlike Jennifer (who is entitled to her fiscal mindset), given how our tax-payer dollars are spent/wasted by politicians (primarily Democrats) and useless government bureaucrats anyway, passing along $600.00 to an undocumented immigrant working here in California doesn't bother me all that much.

Besides, $600.00 doesn't go very far to begin with.

If anyone should have their pay docked (or contribute to this stimulus package out of pocket), it's Governor Newsome based on his fiscal mismanagement of the state EDD program, scaredy-cat public health-related business closures, and hypocracy when it comes to practicing safe-distancing and SIP protocols that he himself mandated.

Bon appetit Gavin and may you eventually be recalled and run out of office like a previously fiscally-inept California Democratic governor named Gray Davis.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
8 hours ago

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Democrats are fiscally irresponsible, and I felt that way when I was a Democrat. I was young. $600 per illegal alien adds up, and it's already costing California $30.79 billion per year. That's a heck of a lot of money. If that doesn't bother you as a taxpayer, it should. It also bothers me that if you're here legally you're only entitled to the money if you're income is less that $30K, and you claim EIC. For illegals, they're eligible if their income is less that $75K. Once again, if it doesn't bother you that illegals are entitled to more money than legal Americans in California, it should. I am pre-occupied with my tax dollars because we pay a higher percentage of taxes than average, and I'm sick of picking up the tab.

Lastly, religion has NOTHING to do with stimulus checks, and dragging faith into the conversation is pathetic. I should've ignored the comments.


Posted by Jeremy Erman
a resident of Midtown
7 hours ago

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I believe the reason the State is considering authorizing relief funds to some undocumented workers with higher incomes than citizens is that undocumented workers did not receive federal stimulus checks, and are thus considered likely to be in more dire financial straits than citizens with the same incomes.

Of course, federal stimulus payments and I think the ones California is considering are based on pre-COVID 2019 taxes, so many people's actual current incomes are likely far different than reported, and many people who earned comfortable incomes in 2019 are now in dire financial straits.

And in the end, all of the federal payments or prospective State ones will not provide significant relief to most people who are suffering. Especially in the Bay Area, with its astronomical housing prices, the two federal payments so far, combined with the next proposed federal payment and the State one, are likely not enough to cover even two months of expenses for an individual--and these payments, if all of them happen, would end up being spaced over a year or more.

Bottom line: if you want to get by in America--or more specifically California--relying on the government doesn't really work.


Posted by Buck Winters
a resident of another community
5 hours ago

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Jennifer is correct. As tax-paying AMERICANS, we do not owe outsiders from other countries anything.

And from a religious standpoint, God helps those who help themselves thus it is not our responsibility to subsidize or support those who are here illegally and draining the social service system.

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Tax-payer funded public assistance should not involve aiding those who have not immigrated via the proper channels.

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