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Bill that would provide overnight parking for homeless community college students pushed to next legislative session

Original post made on Sep 3, 2019

The author of legislation that would require California community colleges to open their parking lots overnight to homeless students has delayed the bill's vote in response to amendments he said watered down its purpose.

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Posted by Answers not rules
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 3, 2019 at 4:46 pm

Until this country comes to terms with universal healthcare so that our homeless populations are not a mix of people who just lost their housing and the mentally ill who never got proper healthcare and can't stay housed, any effort like this is going to suffer from a stigma problem. It could hurt general community college enrollment.

Community colleges already have enough challenges. How about funding for disability resources? For educational facilities that need rehabilitation? For being able to offer courses with less than the max enrollment so that more times can be offered and students can actually finish on time?

I'm not suggesting we don't do anything about homelessness, I'm suggesting that formalizing sleeping on CC campuses is a ridiculous way to go about it.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 3, 2019 at 5:29 pm

>> I'm not suggesting we don't do anything about homelessness, I'm suggesting that formalizing sleeping on CC campuses is a ridiculous way to go about it.

Homelessness due to dire economic circumstances, or, mental illness, are both serious issues. This CC parking lot proposal was a wrongheaded and irrational way to address a serious problem. Don't "delay" the bill. It is a bad idea. Drop the idea and move on.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 3, 2019 at 5:47 pm

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Agree that the bill should be dropped entirely. The Community Colleges have budget for a specific purpose. And aging buildings further compromise the budgets - note DeAnza has to shut down it's theatre due to earthquake standards. It's garage has to be rebuilt for same reason. Each entity has a purpose so let that purpose be the subject of funding. Address homelessness in a different budget issue.


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Posted by RV Dweller
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 3, 2019 at 5:59 pm

Let's move ahead with this plan. Looking forward to taking a couple of electives & walking to class from home.


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Posted by Shawn
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 3, 2019 at 6:17 pm

"A 2018 survey found that 11% of Foothill College students who responded are homeless and 41% are housing insecure."

How many of these students have fallen for the 'you'll only be successful if you get a college education?' trap? How many are digging themselves deeper into debt with loans trying to obtain unless degrees? Maybe these students would be better off if they focused on getting a job and having stable housing rather than spending their money on tuition. Yes I know Foothill isn't all that expensive but these kids need to get a clue and consider putting off college a few years until they can afford it without taking out student loans.

The military is always hiring and they provide tuition assistance while you serve....but they do have a zero tolerance towards drugs and crime so it isn't for everyone.


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Posted by Good Let It Die
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 3, 2019 at 8:12 pm

This was a stupid idea.

There are a thousand reasons why it was ill conceived, unworkable, and horrible for the community colleges that are cash strapped anyway.

It is the duty of community colleges to educate, not to manage a parking lot of homeless kids.

Marc Berman needs to listen to his constituents and not dream up outlandish ideas that cause more problems than they solve.

If Marc Berman wants another term in the legislature, he needs to become more grounded and listen.




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Posted by Good Let It Die
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 3, 2019 at 8:22 pm

@ RV Dweller

Of course you would want everyone in an RV to park at a community college and have the public pay for:

* Parking Lots
* Parking Lot lighting
* Bathrooms
* Shower facilities
* Laundry
* Police protection
* Public dump stations
* Janitorial service for lot
* Trash collection
* Power
* Water
* WIFI

When I was in college I scraped to get housing and food and education. If you say that you need none of this as we will give you a free parking lot for your RV and ALL of your needs met, we will have a ton of "students" taking 1 credit and abusing the campuses.

It is a stupid idea. Vote in a bond to build student housing for community colleges. If you win the vote, great. But do not saddle the struggling community colleges with more stupid, and might I add EXTREMELY STUPID, idea of housing students in cars on the parking lot.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 4, 2019 at 7:13 am

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This bill is symptomatic of the similar problem of RV's on ECR. Our legislators/city fathers are attempting to solve a problem that pushes the budgets of other institutions which are not in the RV business. Attempts here to use other people's/organizations budget funding to solve a problem not of their making or responsibility. The city/state needs to provide locations for RV's which do not impinge on every one else's right of way and budgets. That includes the bathrooms.

If SU has workers in RV's then they need to provide a space on campus off of ECR for their workers. If large businesses have workers in RV's then they need to allocate a location on their property for the RV's.

Comment from RV person above says it all - use other peoples money and space. Noted at Walmart sign above that says Hiring in Process. Person outside door - young man panhandling for money. A lot of people here are not connecting the dots.


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Posted by Tim Buck II
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 4, 2019 at 8:28 pm

"He said he decided to make AB 302 a two-year bill plan and will work this fall with the governor's office to "identify ways to more urgently alleviate the struggles that our community college students are facing every day, in a way that treats them with the dignity and respect they deserve."

Plus, next year is an election year, right? Got to be a coincidence.


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Posted by HA2
a resident of Mountain View
on Sep 5, 2019 at 8:10 am

This is so typical of California politics about housing. There's a huge problem... but every single solution gets voted down as not good enough for one reason or another.

Look up above at the commenters who said "yes, homeless students is bad... but it should be addressed with a different budget. Or a housing bond. Or something else." And if there's ever a bill that does those things, people - often the same people - find reasons to argue against those, too. So we get a million proposed solutions, each of which is debated and discarded.

There is no perfect solution. There's just a million small steps, and we should take many of them, including this one.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 5, 2019 at 8:42 am

Posted by HA2, a resident of Mountain View

>> So we get a million proposed solutions, each of which is debated and discarded.

>> There is no perfect solution. There's just a million small steps, and we should take many of them, including this one.

So, your reasoning is that because we have a complex problem that requires multiple steps, we should start taking bad steps just because they are proposed steps?

No thanks. Let's skip the -known bad- steps and look at other proposed steps.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 5, 2019 at 8:38 pm

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The majority of students at Community colleges are typically just graduated from high school and are trying to get in their mandatory requirements for an AA degree so they can transfer to a 4 year college. A majority are not yet 21 years of age. To suggest that students who have not yet reached their majority age are sleeping in parking lots is an invitation to disaster. Typically they live at home where they have adult support and their own bedroom. Typically the parents make sure the kids are taken care of. And if they are going to a 4 year school they are living in a dorm.
It is not right to make a community college legally responsible for underage students who are living in the parking lot. That is OVERREACH. And it is taking advantage of the budget funding the school has to reappoint how it is spent. The legal issues attendant on that idea are formidable.


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Posted by Time For The Wealthy To Step Up...
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Sep 7, 2019 at 1:33 pm

If the United States had FIXED living income for all American citizens (over 18) including universal healthcare, we wouldn't be having these problems.

If a person cannot live on $75K-$80K per year, there is something MATERIALISTICALLY wrong with them.

The wealthy don't need all their money and this includes the corporate types as well as professional athletes.

To make $30M per year shooting hoops or throwing a baseball is absurd given the poverty in America. And the same goes for those in the $350K+ per annum salary brackets.

AOC will someday put an end to this nonsense & American life priorities will hopefully get balanced.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Sep 8, 2019 at 10:18 am

Resident 1-Adobe Meadows is a registered user.

An opinion piece appeared in the papers today concerning this topic. It made it more state involved because the community colleges addressed the issues here as a group - big financial and legal problem. Then there was a 'one-off" example of a single person's point of view to plead his issues. He of course was over 21 years of age - in his majority. And all of his compatriots are over 21 years of age - in their majorities. Always a one-off example of a person in dire straights.

The article pointed out the huge funding required to support a legal situation of this type of which the majority of people are just graduated from high school, are under 21 years of age, and not very experienced yet in dealing with all of the predicaments they would encounter in the night hours. A huge burden both financially and legally on the CC's which are not in their portfolio to address.
Where to put people who are in their majority, presumably in a part time job, and going to school. Yes that is a problem. But the CC's are not paid to fund that problem.


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Posted by van dweller
a resident of Downtown North
on Dec 2, 2019 at 1:44 pm

I am going to be very bias and say this bill is a great idea. I am currently going to SFSU, an aspiring physical therapist and I live in a van because housing in SF is absolutely crazy. I did choose to do van life, but what people that oppose this bill do not understand is that students are going to live in their vehicles either way, but at least they would have a reatively safe place to spend the night. There are so many other "homeless" students living in their vehicles at my school, and some lucky ones can find safe parking spots inside the university, giving us a sense of security, but the rest of the studetns have to park in the dangerous streets. I have also noticed that we van dwellers do not like to make it obvious that we live in a van and keep to ourselves. All those that oppose this bill need to undestand that we are just struggling to get a grip of our life and get a better education.
I hope that @Good let it die and @Resident 1-Adobe Meadows gets back to me on this :)


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Posted by Resident
a resident of another community
on Dec 2, 2019 at 2:58 pm

There are plenty of Community Colleges that offer housing.
The simple solution is to simply transfer to one of them and leave.
By the time anything would be built around here, you should be done with you two year program.
Do a search online for community colleges with housing, and gas up your vehicle.
Good-bye


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