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One dies in collision between box truck and fire truck, blocking southbound U.S. Highway 101 in Palo Alto

Original post made on Aug 4, 2019

All lanes of southbound U.S. Highway 101 in Palo Alto are closed and one man died after a box truck rear-ended a Palo Alto Fire Department fire truck that was responding to a solo-vehicle crash early Sunday morning.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, August 4, 2019, 9:38 AM

Comments (24)

Posted by NearBy Neighbor
a resident of Mountain View
on Aug 4, 2019 at 12:42 pm

Wow. Sad the truck driver didn't make it. I heard the firefighters used Jaws of Life to get him out and rushed him to hospital.
Thank you firefighters for the dangerous work you do. It sounds like this was a very close call, almost had a firefighter seriously injured or worse.

Palo Alto Online: Any pictures of damged truck or fire engine ?


Posted by musical
a resident of Palo Verde
on Aug 4, 2019 at 6:35 pm

^ Photos currently available on our Fire Department Facebook page.

facebook.com/PaloAltoFire -- not posting the whole URL because I don't know
what it does if you don't have a Facebook account. Nothing on their Twitter page.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Aug 4, 2019 at 9:41 pm

This is a good reason to start phasing out huge fire equipment in response to vehicle accidents.


Posted by SmartCarRescue
a resident of Crescent Park
on Aug 4, 2019 at 9:51 pm

Phase out big Fire Apparatus on incidents like this?
Great. Let’s have responders go in Small Smart Cars.
That will help shield them from the sleep deprived, drunk drivers, texting drivers etc who may hit them.
Great idea.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Aug 4, 2019 at 11:27 pm

About a month ago, there was a an accident that happened in the south bound lane of 101. All the lights and apparatus caused a distraction that resulted in a three car pile up in the north bound lane. A women that was involved in that accident was struck and killed as she tried to get out of the vehicle.

It appears that the fire truck was blocking the right lane and the vehicle in involved in the incident was pulled over to the side.. Let us see how this pans out with the insurance companies and or in civil court.




Posted by musical
a resident of Palo Verde
on Aug 5, 2019 at 3:26 am

More Fire Department details on a KPIX/CBS page -- Web Link
No info yet whether the $600,000 fire engine is repairable or we're buying a new one.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Aug 5, 2019 at 5:23 am

Most medium size commercial trucks like the white one in this accident are under
26,000 pounds gross vehicle weight.
This is the biggest truck a person can drive with a regular drivers license.A majority of these trucks are made in Mexico and shipped here. This the main reason why AB 60 was passed. AB 60 allows undocumented drivers to drive these huge trucks. This law was not for our safety, it was passed so the companies can have cheap labor be to ship thier goods.e
Expect many more accidents like this one.


Posted by @resident
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Aug 5, 2019 at 7:11 am

That did not take long. Undocumented drivers was at fault again.???lol lol @resident Do all your arguments have to do with Mexico and undocumented???. Pathetic. Made in mexico and shipped here. lol lol lol . Might be the dumbest thing i have ever heard.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on Aug 5, 2019 at 8:41 am

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

"It appears that the fire truck was blocking the right lane and the vehicle in involved in the incident was pulled over to the side.."

Fire trucks do exactly that to protect the accident site and the first responders from speeding vehicles.

" All the lights and apparatus caused a distraction that resulted in a three car pile up in the north bound lane. "

Flashing red lights mean SLOW DOWN - clearly the distracted drivers were not paying attention.


Posted by resident
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 5, 2019 at 9:02 am

This collision happened at 3:30am on Sunday morning. Collisions at that hour are usually caused by something other than distracted driving. I'm sure the coroner will do the appropriate blood tests.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on Aug 5, 2019 at 9:12 am

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Strange -
Resident states "All the lights and apparatus caused a distraction that resulted in a three car pile up in the north bound lane."

And then Resident states "This collision happened at 3:30am on Sunday morning. Collisions at that hour are usually caused by something other than distracted driving. "


Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 5, 2019 at 9:14 am

These two accidents could both have been caused or partly caused by sleepy drivers. True that drugs/alcohol could have been part of the cause too, but sleepy drivers is becoming more and more of a problem. Sleep deprived drivers are becoming an issue.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on Aug 5, 2019 at 10:45 am

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Resident - Thank you for acknowledging that the accident was not caused by the fire engine's ""All the lights and apparatus"


Posted by who follows safety standards?
a resident of Meadow Park
on Aug 5, 2019 at 10:58 am

> AB 60 allows undocumented drivers to drive these huge trucks.

Simple - union truck drivers, like the union firefighters. First and foremost, a union supports driver and public safety by preventing unsafe driving conditions - too many hours behind the wheel, follow existing safety laws that are ignored, etc..

We learned the value of unions and public safety as they rose during the last Gilded Age.

Works well, until most of the drivers are replaced by self driving vehicles anyway.


Posted by Old Palo,Alto
a resident of Professorville
on Aug 5, 2019 at 11:48 am

Old Palo,Alto is a registered user.

Does not seem safe to park a vehicle in a traffic lane?
Why not park on side
Or post flag man .


Posted by nat
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 5, 2019 at 12:31 pm

I'm confused. Why was the fire truck blocking the lane instead of off to the side?
Were lights flashing or a flag being waved to warn drivers in the slow lane to stop or change lanes?


Posted by resident
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 5, 2019 at 12:47 pm

This article is poorly written. If you read the police press release, the police had closed the right lane of the freeway so they could work to clear a prior collision. Fortunately, they had used a big heavy truck to close the lane, otherwise the whole crew could have been killed by the second collision.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on Aug 5, 2019 at 12:49 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

" Why was the fire truck blocking the lane instead of off to the side?"


Fire trucks do exactly that to protect the accident site and the first responders from speeding vehicles.

And they also flash all of their red lights so that everyone approaching the location is warned and expected to slow down.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Aug 5, 2019 at 6:59 pm

@ @ Resident

"That did not take long. Undocumented drivers was at fault again.???lol lol @resident Do all your arguments have to do with Mexico and undocumented???. Pathetic. Made in mexico and shipped here. lol lol lol . Might be the dumbest thing i have ever heard."




The only thing that is "dumb" or "pathetic" is folks like you actually endorse and vote for policies like these.




Posted by Resident
a resident of Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Aug 5, 2019 at 7:08 pm

At Resident Downtown North

If the fire department is going to use this policy of using a $600,000 fire truck to block a lane, instead they should get a used Cal Tran truck, the one with the huge water bladder/bumper on the the rear of the vehicle. Maybe if used that, they would have saved the taxpayers $600,000 in damage. And maybe that poor guy might still be alive.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on Aug 5, 2019 at 7:12 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Resident - Guess what - the fire engine was the First Response Unit.

Protecting the firefighters, the other on scene responders and the citizens present was the firefighters FIRST responsibility.

Fire engines can be replaced, lives cannot be.


Posted by Resident
a resident of Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Aug 5, 2019 at 7:38 pm

Tell that to the family of the dead guy that was driving the white truck.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
on Aug 5, 2019 at 7:45 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

The guy driving the white truck was the person who screwed up - there were flashing red lights all over the place and he drove into the fire engine!

The fire engine was parked exactly where it should have been parked and all of its lights were flashing.

The driver of the white truck lost his life because he failed to respond to all of those flashing red lights not because the fire engine was parked where it was parked.






Posted by Resident
a resident of Woodland Ave. area (East Palo Alto)
on Aug 5, 2019 at 8:13 pm

You are probably right, but let's wait untill after the investigation.

It still does not change the fact that anybody with a regular drivers license can drive a huge truck, like the one that was involved in the accident.unfortunatly, bad accidents are a weekly occurrence in this area of 101.


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