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Google pledges $1 billion for rapid new housing growth in Bay Area

Original post made on Jun 19, 2019

As the housing crisis reaches new levels of despair, Google is launching a $1 billion campaign to reverse the trend. The tech giant is pledging to use its vast capital and land holdings to build tens of thousands of homes.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, June 19, 2019, 8:25 AM

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Posted by Stuck in Traffic
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jun 19, 2019 at 12:40 pm

They say they will build new 'homes'. But what they really mean is apartments, and mostly for rent to singles/couples here only to work, and not to build community.

The remainder will likely be spent on luxury condos, not affordable for people that were born and raised here, and with family still living here.

One billion dollars, divided by four cities (Mountain View, San Jose, Sunnyvale and San Francisco) is not that much.

Google will want even more office space now. Cities, stars in their eyes over Google dollars, will sell residents out.

Enough is enough. Big Tech needs to stop. MORATORIUM on office space. Common sense, in building more residential property.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 19, 2019 at 12:53 pm

How about they (long term) lease some land in the SRP near ECR/Page Mill/Cal Ave for this purpose as well? Easy walk to Caltrain.


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Posted by How much per housing unit?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 19, 2019 at 12:55 pm

Although $1 billion sounds like a lot, it does not go as far as one might think. A current proposed low income housing project will cost $700,000 per unit. (The mostly market rate housing proposed by Google will cost even more.) So it will cost at least $14 billion to build that housing.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 19, 2019 at 1:48 pm

Resident 1-Adobe Meadows is a registered user.

The question on the table is if PA is in negotiation with Google on any land at this time in PA. There are now buildings in the PA Business Park at San Antonio and 101 with Google bus pick-up signs. Google has bought the SSL site on Fabian Way. We all need to understand what the impact is on PA at this time since we are in arguments on housing at CUB and other locations which are PA owned land. So how many "deals" are ongoing at this time in PA. The city needs to lay out what the status of areas ripe for renovation - like Fry's. The city has it's own goals and requirements to meet on it's own. Let's not mix goals here since PA is answerable to government agencies which have levied some requirements to meet. Google housing cannot be used to meet our city goals.


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Posted by Joe Traveho
a resident of Mountain View
on Jun 20, 2019 at 10:23 am

Transit is a big deal with a development like this. Google is proposing to put housing next to the jobs, which is an excellent smart-development approach. Having thousands of housing units within easy walking distance of effective public transportation helps as well. A VTA stop for instance. The increased traffic would help justify increasing frequency (every 8 to 10 minutes during the day is needed for people to take transit seriously).


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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 20, 2019 at 12:46 pm

Posted by Joe Traveho, a resident of Mountain View

>> Transit is a big deal with a development like this. Google is proposing to put housing next to the jobs, which is an excellent smart-development approach.

It is a start, but, unless these are chaparoned single-sex dorms such as those provided in Shenzhen by the big manufacturers Web Link , then, there are likely to be couples of some type living there. It is likely that the SO's are not Google employees. They will likely be commuting to another location. So:

>> Having thousands of housing units within easy walking distance of effective public transportation helps as well. A VTA stop for instance. The increased traffic would help justify increasing frequency (every 8 to 10 minutes during the day is needed for people to take transit seriously).

Agreed, these "company towns" still require public transit for the SO's, as well as the occasional foray to the outside world. Still, it is a start.


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Posted by Old Joe
a resident of Barron Park
on Jun 20, 2019 at 1:36 pm

Housing is in a free fall. Half, one and one point five million dollar price cuts in Barron Park. Home buyers are loosing their shirts. The elderly are seeing their nest eggs evaporate. This area is no longer attractive and the quality of life is well below that of neighboring cities. So long Palo Alto. It was nice knowing you before all this mess was allowed to happen. Sure, build more housing. More people and can s and congestion please.


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Posted by Hugo
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 20, 2019 at 2:16 pm

How much would it cost to build an apartment building/dormitory? Let's say a 12-story building with, say, 20 units per floor, or 240 units? At 2 occupants per unit that gets 480 folks out of their RV's. Build it on Google property so the cost of land is $0 and employees could walk/bike to work with no strain on public transit. Yes, it would be a medium-high-rise. Horrors! There are worse problems in this world than a high-rise in Googleville.

Look, if Stanford can build housing for its students and Google can afford to lease Moffett field for its fleet of private jets, a simple apartment building should be a cakewalk.


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Posted by Hugo
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 20, 2019 at 2:42 pm

This says the national average ranges up to $86,100 per unit:

Web Link

Let's round it up to $100,000 per unit because this is Silicon Valley. 240 such 750-square-foot units x $100,000 = $24 million for 240 units (12 stories x 20 units per story). Underground parking, don't forget that. Drive the piles all the way down to bedrock so the building doesn't tilt like Millenium Tower in the city.

$24 million is chump change for Google. They could build several such buildings for $1 billion. Put a Safeway on the ground floor of one of them.


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Posted by Paly Grad
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jun 20, 2019 at 3:24 pm

In San Francisco it's estimated to cost $600,000 to $800,000 per unit for affordable housing:

"In San Francisco construction costs are up more than 50 percent since 2015, and recently edged out New York City as the highest in the country. A unit of affordable housing costs between $600,000 and $800,000 to build, depending on building type and materials."

Web Link


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 21, 2019 at 10:21 am

Resident 1-Adobe Meadows is a registered user.

So this whole topic in effect says that the number of residents in PA, specifically south PA is going to increase. That means that Cubberely is going to be needed, as well as Greendell for the increase in population. Any attempt to gut the educational elements of PA at this time is counter to common sense. Spending money on elaborate housing plans at CUB is also counter to common sense. It is not going to happen. It appears that the corporate and city interests are proceeding and well able to take care of their requirements without adding CUB to the mix. The PAUSD has to take care of it's requirements. We are not throwing the city and schools down the "housing" hysteria without some comprehensive planning. The divide and conquer element is well at work here. We don't pay the city for divide and conquer.
Time to go back to the FRY's site which is enormous. You all can stuff all of the low income, high income, old people, and major grocery market into that site. Also connection to Cal train, possibly move it from California Avenue.


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Posted by Kenny
a resident of University South
on Jun 22, 2019 at 12:20 pm

"How about they (long term) lease some land in the SRP near ECR/Page Mill/Cal Ave for this purpose as well? Easy walk to Caltrain."

And also Downtown, as there is a Caltrain station there, too. Not to mention all the restaurants nearby, who would greatly benefit from the additional business.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jun 22, 2019 at 11:43 pm

Resident 1-Adobe Meadows is a registered user.

At the Fry's site you could put in 4 four story buildings - one for low income and teachers, one for old people with a medical center on the first floor, a more expensive tower for high end techies, and a tower for low end techies. Each would be modified to expand or reduce the size of the condos. Maybe a day care center in one of them. Maybe a nice restaurant and bar in one, and a grocery store on the site as well as cleaners and coffee shop.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 23, 2019 at 8:29 am

Or how about housing at the Ming's site instead of a car dealership. Low income housing, space for teachers and first responders, as well as condos with easy bike ride to Google or Facebook.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 23, 2019 at 3:08 pm

"nooooooooooooooooooo"
$1 billion to bring millions more people into an already severely crammed, congested place with an exploding population.


"ah but they'll ride bicycles and trains!!'


Perish Google


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Posted by Hugo
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 23, 2019 at 4:27 pm

"$1 billion to bring millions more people into an already severely crammed, congested place with an exploding population."

I don't know where you get the idea that the $1 billion will be used to bring in more people. They might be trying to house people who are already here, living on the streets in RV's.

"ah but they'll ride bicycles and trains!!"

You forgot self-driving cars.


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Posted by C. Walters
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Jun 24, 2019 at 9:38 am

@Old Joe

Housing is in a free fall. Half, one and one point five million dollar price cuts in Barron Park. Home buyers are loosing their shirts. The elderly are seeing their nest eggs evaporate. This area is no longer attractive and the quality of life is well below ... “

Right on brother!
My neighbors are in a panic and trying to list before August.
The guy down the road has lost $350k on paper since last fall.
Gotta love the PACC for destroying homeownership in PA. A crash is coming. Watch for the foreclosures and bankruptcies to hit the valley. First time buyers beware.


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Posted by Anneke
a resident of Professorville
on Jun 24, 2019 at 1:34 pm

Will we have enough water for all?


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Posted by Curious
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 26, 2019 at 1:14 pm

I see $50 million donated by Google “for homeless services.” Small piece of the pie - but, still!
That IS a lot.
We also know every entity known to people here, such as Santa Clara County, San Francisco, State of CA, etc., etc. is funding tend of millions over the recent decades for “the homeless.” Or, the homeless industrial complex, it appears.
Unemployment is at a record low and the economy is mostly very strong.
So - clearly - we are ATTRACTING numerous new persons: “the homeless” - as in those who choose not to work, to live rough, to take hard drugs, who refuse mental health treatment TO our state, region, and local cities.
This is out of hand. This is abuse of the system.


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Posted by Hugo
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 27, 2019 at 5:29 pm

"In San Francisco it's estimated to cost $600,000 to $800,000 per unit for affordable housing:"

One billion dollars / $800,000 per unit = 1,250 units. At 20 units per story you could build 62.5 stories or four 15-story buildings. Put a Safeway in the ground floor of one of them. If some of the units house one person and some house two, you could house about 1500 - 1800 people.

That's the conservative estimate using the higher figure for S.F.

Google has the land and the money.


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Posted by Long Time Resident
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 27, 2019 at 9:27 pm

Google (and other companies) may have the land and money, but they don't have the water. Water will be the limiting factor.
Tech is not "green". Tech is not carbon neutral. It requires massive amounts of energy and water.
The panels and windmills are just for show - to create the illusion of being clean and green.
This area won't have enough water to get us through the next drought.
Poster Anneke is correct.
The tech companies have been setting up huge data centers and operations in other states - exploiting their groundwater supplies, and less restrictive energy supplies.
What they are doing is not sustainable.


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