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Kathy Jordan wanted to meet with Paly's Campanile student staff and changed her mind when their advisors insisted on sitting in the meeting. She wanted to meet with students without other adults present. Is that the kind of board member we want?

Dear teacher [portion removed.]:
Why should Kathy want to meet students in your presence when you have shown yourself to be entirely biased towards Ms. Diorio and responsible for feeding the students mis-information? You could easily have suggested a neutral third party.

@Teacher
It appears that it is the adults that have been giving the students bad advice which is the problem in the first place. Wojcicki allowed the paper to run multiple articles stating that Oct 2016 assault was consensual. However, the only basis for that assertion is the word of the boy's attorney. The records are sealed. On the other hand, the victim has made statement that make it blatantly clear that it was not consensual. Here's an example:

"he grabbed me at my waist and he locked the door. He started kissing me. I said, I don’t know if I can do this. I can’t do this. No, it hurts. I don’t want to do this.”

Yet, these statements were not included in any article. The only side that was given was the side to defend that the incident was consensual. So, what message does that send to the victim?

What seems to becoming clear is that the students were given bad information and advice by Wojcicki. Students wrote the article as if "consensual" was an official ruling. They stated they got the information from the boy's lawyer and Diorio, but those claims can not be verified. So, why would Wojcicki allow that to be published? The students have become pawns in the school's effort to squash the voice of the victim.

Kathy Jordan's efforts regarding the Campanile have been to clear the name of the victim and stop the student paper from trying to make it sound like she was a willing participant. I see that as an outstanding character trait for a board member. And, given her support, it looks like many others agree with that.

@Teacher, give it a rest! Let’s stop pointing fingers!

As adults, let’s examine the CDC data which shows that 25% of kids in high school have experienced sexual assault. PAUSD does NOT have a culture to support victims, and hence few dare to even report. PAUSD’s toxic culture is no different than the White House.

Let’s instead spend our energy on solving this critical issue, change the culture, support our children, let them be safe. Stop feeding student writers with untruthful statements by calling the alleged rape “consensual” and stop using student publication as a CYA propaganda for administration!

Didn't we rename "Jordan" to "Greene"?

I don't have a dog in the fights between Kathy Jordan and the Campanile, the journalism teachers, the former principal, the current principal, the current Gunn principal, the school board, a former Paly assistant principal, etc.
What I do know is that there is no way I want all that on the school board. Running for office should be a way to get things done, not settle scores. "In league with." Really?

Great point, Paly Parent. The school board is finally dialing down the drama a bit. Why elect more drama like this?

@Gunn Parent,
I like how you categorize sexual assaults and other PAUSD missteps as "drama". Sadly, they have long-lasting impacts on students and their education. I think that's what the board is supposed to deal with, aren't they? It has been shown that the district and school made efforts to conceal communications between staff and from students to staff about a variety of topics, including the 2016 bathroom assault at Paly. Yes, it's too bad that PAUSD has a black eye due to those events. However, just because the "drama" has been "dialed down" does not mean that there is still a lot of improvement to be made. One of the main areas is in the area of transparency. You'll hear the board mention the word often, but is that what they're really working towards? Eliminating the two-meeting rule, limiting the time for public comments, limiting the scope of public records requests, confidentiality clauses in lawsuits, etc...

Listen to what Alex Scharf has described as his experience going through Paly and the Special Ed department.

Dialing down the drama is a lot different than solving problems.

Just how critical are campaign contributions to PAUSD elections?

Does it go towards more of those paper signs you see on front lawns and street corners?

Dialing down drama is exactly what Catholic churches have been doing - hush the allegations, don’t make a big deal, ship the priests to other locations, so they can continue to molest many more children.

Oh, when the district had its $6M blunder, the board did dial down the drama. They didn’t take action when someone mis-calculated and when the error wasn’t caught after many levels of review. It was the taxpayer’s $6M. How many more blunders should we tolerate before taking action?

Campaign contributions go to signs, newspaper ads (print and online), facebook ads, kickoff events, websites, pamphlets, mailings, voter lists...

After watching the first debate, I am pleased to see such promising candidates.

@Alex Scharf - the odds are stacked against you, but I just want you to know that win or lose,I hope you will continue to be active in improving our schools. I don’t have much to give but would contribute to your campaign because I think you elevate the discussion. I have been so impressed by your comments.

This has been the best discussion I’ve seen by school board candidates in years.

Yes, I agree Alex. Keep it up. Gives a real look at how PAUSD treats some of it's students. Dauber should be ashamed when he tries to take credit for progress in the district.

@Samuel L, I wonder if you are paying attention. Did you notice that the Superintendent, CBO, head of HR, head of special ed, Title IX officer, and the Paly principal were all replaced? Did you notice the settlement of the 5 year OCR ordeal, the Cozen investigations, and the creation of the Title IX office that the OCR called a model for K-12 school systems? Did you notice the 2 year plan for special ed improvement with $1.5M in extra money into the first year? I haven't seen results yet, but that's a good start.

If you really think that trying to make their meetings end earlier by reducing public comment to a mere 30 minutes per item and trying to pass more items in one meeting instead of two (not to mention just talking less themselves) is the worst thing they are doing, then they have come a long, long way. This was a group that 2 years ago couldn't produce meeting minutes, and 5 years ago was having illegal closed sessions and running its meetings till midnight or later.

So yes, I think the last thing they need is drama like Kathy Jordan [portion removed.]

"They didn’t take action when someone mis-calculated and when the error wasn’t caught after many levels of review. It was the taxpayer’s $6M. How many more blunders should we tolerate before taking action?"

The Superintendent, Chief Financial Officer, and Asst Superintendent of HR were all pushed out and replaced. Is that the kind of action you were looking for?

"Yes, I agree Alex. Keep it up. Gives a real look at how PAUSD treats some of it's students. Dauber should be ashamed when he tries to take credit for progress in the district."

Dauber took office in Dec 2014. Alex Scharf graduated from Paly in 2015. So yes, any progress on Dauber's watch has been since Scharf left school.

Just read the comments on the thread comparing our school district to the Catholic Church. And then imagine Kathy Jordan at school board meetings railing about firing principals because they are in cahoots with teachers she doesn't like. We have a new principal that she has also targetted. The part of this story that worries me is that Jordan might have enough money to buy her way onto the school board.

@Oscar Wild Before the $6 blunder, there was the $5M blunder - that’s $11M of tax payer’s $$! How many years of parent donations would it take to make up these gaps? My child’s elementary school couldn’t even let PTA make photocopies that year due to the shortfall of money. We all worked very hard to chip in to make the ends meet.

I don’t think it serves community well when we have multiple levels of supervision but no one is detailed enough to catch these big mistakes. The board’s responsibility is to provide oversight - but they failed, time after time. They didn’t catch the mis-calculation of property tax income, they missed a contract negotiation deadline. I believe we need a board member who has the depth and super attention to detail, that the current board lacks. Based on the debates, I do think that Ms. Jordan is the most thorough and detailed candidate among the six.

@Parent, this is an election for the school board not for district auditor. The idea that Jordan or any board member is going to check up on the work of every staff member is silly. The right response to employee incompetence is to get new employees. Based on this thread it looks like the board did that starting at the top.

What's apparent is that Jordan has an ax to grind and is trying to get on the board to take revenge on a long list of perceived enemies. [Portion removed.]

@Teacher -
[Portion removed.] A Paly Campanile staffer approached me at a school board meeting in Oct. 2017 and invited me to meet with her and other Campanile student staffers after I requested the Campanile retract its assertion that the Oct. 2016 incident was "subsequently determined to be consensual." I agreed to meet, but to meet with students only, because I knew from public records that their teacher advisor was communicating and coordinating with the Paly principal, whom the Cozen report said did not follow the laws in response to the Oct. 2016 incident.

I emailed the Campanile editors directly for the same reason [portion removed.]

In my opinion, the students were not presented with all the accurate information at the time ---- prior to writing these articles in the Campanile.

According to news articles, the victim was 14 years old at the time of the incident. The legal age of consent in California is 18. She could not legally consent. And she said that she did not consent, alleging sexual assault to KTVU, the Mercury News, and, according to the Cozen report, to Paly counselors, Paly administrators, and to the police.

The issues that are important to me are the financing mess and the renaming of schools which was a waste of time and money.

@Gunn Parent
The board can't take much credit for replacing all the administrators you mentioned. They only took action because Kathy Jordan kept pushing for it, filed public records requests, and notified the press of the issues she found. She was the one who raised the alarm in the first place when she noticed that the Paly principal had sat on sexual harassment reports for three years. Having attended many board meetings, it’s quite clear to me that the board would have done much less if it weren’t for Kathy.

The blame for the recent drama falls squarely on those who haven’t followed the law, not on Kathy for exposing them. These "imagined forces of evil" seem very real to me, and no doubt seem even more real to the victims.

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@Gunn parent,
Do you realize that exactly that kind of recitation after the OCR civil rights violations cases was given a few years ago BEFORE the Title IX stuff, to try to aggressively claim everything was fixed and hunky dory. The district has in no way turned over all the bad apples that could spoil the whole bunch again, even in leadership positions, and more importantly, the CULTURE is little different among staff and leadership.

Kim Diorio learned the hard way that trusting leadership when she should have been trying harder to do the right thing in the situation in front of her can backfire. But appreciating it enough to finally understand where to cast blame is a long way from actually putting students’ interests first.

We have other stuff under the rug that is festering, people in leadership positions going back to the Skelly years who were fully complicit in the since-rebuked behavior but have never changed, and the district shows no signs of having changed or being able to deal with the stuff under the rug still in an honest, trustworthy, conciliatory, and constructive manner than they did the litany of past problems, and are as poised as ever to make the next blunders. A lot of people tried to dismiss the Title IX complaints in the same way that you are doing - trying to handwave about turnover, time passed, settlements, but with absolutely no sense of taking responsibility for and righting ongoing wrongs and bad culture/behavior. It’s like a sick signal to people still suffering: we will now make it even harder for you to get help because we have “solved” that last pesky problem and are back to digging in on our perfectness and protecting our “brand” where we don’t solve problems, we blame and come down hard on parents/students for having them.

Not a single thing you bring up addresses the factors that caused our district’s persistent violations of student rights and bad behavior. And the fact that you are being so assertive but avoiding the cultural, legal, and other factors more directly at issue, is so strikingly similar to what happened BEFORE Title IX but AFTER other OCR violations, if such an attitude is prevalent, it virtually ensures that we are condemned to repeat the past.

Our students need people like Jordan who are not afraid to face the truth and solve problems. We don’t need more window dressing and whitewashing. I haven’t made up my mind about my vote, but I know enough about our district to see that the attitude that problems are to be hidden, suppressed, whitewashed, and swept under the rug or brushed away, serves no one except lawyers who see our district as an easy target (and that includes if we get in-house Counsel without rules to keep them from being in-house CYA ala the past).

@paly parent. Those two phrases are synonymous. Not sure of the issue. Jordan also could have used "in cahoots" or "worked hand in glove" or could even have said "schemed"

Whatever words are used, Jordan has shown that she'll ensure that the board is transparent, follows the law, looks out for the students and keeps an eye on the budget. It'll be refreshing to have someone be honest with the public.

@paly parent,

FYI, registered users, which Kathy Jordan is above, can edit their posts for a period of time after they submit/post them.

You are the one who seems like you have an axe to grind. Someone who as worked as selflessly as Kathy Jordan has -- willing to take care of the most vulnerable [portion removed] -- would be a good person to have on the board.

A couple points:

1 - Jordan didn't edit her comment. You have 5 minutes as a registered user to edit; hers was deleted and then replaced the next day. Draw your own conclusions.

2 - Jordan had zero impact on the board's actions. The fact is that sometimes she was right and often wrong in her statements and proposals. But always scathing and dramatic. And that's exactly what we don't need.

Jordan deserves credit for being an independent voice, willing to speak up. But her tactics and stridency ultimately caused trouble, much more than fixing it. Since stridency is her brand now, you have to decide if that's what you want on your school board.

Editor's Note: Ms. Jordan's earlier post was deleted by the moderator because there were portions that didn't not conform to our terms of use. Like many posters whose comments are so deleted, and not at our request, she made some changes and posted a new comment. The moderator felt that took care of the problem except for one item, which was deleted.

@Wow Kathy has always been calm, focused on facts, and extremely logical. You may find her strident because she is pointing out the many many mistakes the board and administration have made over the past years, and it makes you defensive. She has shown in many many arenas on the world stage, that she is well able to work in teams and get large things accomplished.
Everything she has talked about in front of the board has shown that she cares deeply for all students and our community. Her attention to detail, her work ethic, and her stamina prove that she has the courage to tackle the problems in PAUSD.
We need someone like her, who will create a culture of respect and logic, instead of a culture of personal attack, which is what is currently prevalent.

@Wow
What tactics are you referring to? She speaks at board meetings, emails the board and the media, files UCP complaints on behalf of victims, files public records requests, etc. Which of these “tactics” bothers you? Frankly, she has been very restrained considering how the victims were mistreated.

You claim Kathy had zero impact on the board. How many board meetings have you attended? You claim Kathy was more often wrong than right. Would you care to provide examples? You described her as scathing and dramatic. Can you give examples of where she exaggerated? All of her claims are backed up with evidence. The same can’t be said of yours.

Kathy speaks for many of us. You may not like her tone, but she speaks the truth.

Many of us know that Ms. Jordan has made significant impact on board actions and decisions. She has done a stellar job advocating for students and families whose voices have been ignored by PAUSD. [Portion removed.]