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Man gets to 20 years to life for Vegas killing of Palo Altan

Original post made on Sep 9, 2018

A Nevada man who pleaded guilty to the 2015 first-degree murder of Palo Altan Neil Gandler in Las Vegas was sentenced on Sept. 6 to 20 years to life in prison, according to the Clark County District Attorney's office.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, September 9, 2018, 9:37 AM

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Posted by RIP
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 9, 2018 at 3:27 pm

By all accounts, Neil Gandler was a great guy who accomplished some innovative and selfless things in his life. I’m glad to know the perpetrator will go to jail, but I would appreciate his image being minimized deliberately. I am happy to have a memory of Gandler from this story and think it’s right that the other guy should mostly be forgotten.


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Posted by Exercise Caution
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 9, 2018 at 3:36 pm

Why do so many sociopaths tend to have a troublesome appearance/look?

I have created a mental profiling of sorts and always strive to stay clear of certain individuals who strike me as potentially dangerous.


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Posted by spare the rod
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Sep 9, 2018 at 6:43 pm

" admitted to a count of murder with use of a deadly weapon "

Cannot offhand think of a first-degree murder not using a deadly weapon.
Will "20 years to life" mean out in 10?
Let's check again in 2025.


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Posted by Veryupset
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Sep 9, 2018 at 9:03 pm

I remember reading about this when this was reported and it was absoltely shocking then and even more now. This guy Staats ad=nd Hippie are cold blooded murderers and I am sure there are very serious drug addicts or meth addicts and that is the reason why they killed Gandler and it is really distrubing that the killers are not getting a much more serious and far severe punishment like death penalty or few life times. The Nevada judicial system may have a too liberal bias and that is the reason for this lenient sentence and it is really shocking how insensitive and irresponsible the liberals are to serious crimes like murder.


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Posted by The Lone Star State
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 10, 2018 at 7:34 am

>> it is really distrubing that the killers are not getting a much more serious and far severe punishment like death penalty or few life times. The Nevada judicial system may have a too liberal bias and that is the reason for this lenient sentence and it is really shocking how insensitive and irresponsible the liberals are to serious crimes like murder.


I'm originally from Texas and they tend to handle crimes like this a bit more expeditiously.


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Posted by James Bond
a resident of Menlo Park
on Sep 10, 2018 at 8:29 am

Quite concerning! ...like Gandler, I am also an engineer in Silicon Valley and have attended (Comdex and) CES for many years, often choosing to sleep in my own car (not rental) for the same reasons ...flexibility and to save $$$.

The idea that one must keep their Glock locked in the trunk and unloaded in order to please the liberals (and PD) in America is most annoying. And further, the idea that criminals would randomly search for cars to burglarize (and then choose to commit murder once they find one that is occupied) is particularly difficult to thwart. One is no longer free to rest peacefully where they choose, and no longer able to defend themselves. Calling 911 in such circumstances won't work.

~Bond, James. 007

p.s.- Will be there in Vegas next January again for CES. Will need to come up with new defense strategy that still complies with the laws, or risk getting arrested by those servants (who swear an individual oath to uphold the US Constitution) we fund with our tax dollars.


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Posted by R. Davis
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 10, 2018 at 8:52 am

QUOTE: Will "20 years to life" mean out in 10?

I've never quite understood the shortened prison terms based on 'good behavior' while incarcerated. Shouldn't the 'bad behavior' which triggered the initial sentence (i.e. 1st degree murder) also be taken into full consideration?

Is this primarily due to prison overcrowding or the review board's actual belief in one's rehabilitation? If so, the number of repeat offenders should (in theory) drop considerably.


QUOTE: I'm originally from Texas and they tend to handle crimes like this a bit more expeditiously.

They most certainly do...as time's a wastin'.


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Posted by guns
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 10, 2018 at 8:54 am

This chain of events started when a poorly secured loaded gun was stolen from a different car. If that unnamed gun owner had properly secured their weapon, would this murder have happened? Why was the original gun owner not also prosecuted?


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Posted by R. Davis
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 10, 2018 at 9:05 am

QUOTE: This chain of events started when a poorly secured loaded gun was stolen from a different car. If that unnamed gun owner had properly secured their weapon, would this murder have happened?


You are creating another 'what if' kind of query that serves no real purpose (unless you happen to be the defense attorney for these two sociopaths).

Common sense dictates that if one happens to see a handgun in the backseat of an unattended car, you call 911 and bring it to the immediate attention of the police or sheriff's department. They will take over from there.

You don't go ripping it off and then using the weapon to kill and/or rob someone.



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Posted by Old Sparky
a resident of Los Altos
on Sep 10, 2018 at 9:13 am

This psycho should have gotten life with no parole.


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Posted by spare the rod
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Sep 10, 2018 at 9:23 am

" Staats and Hippie had been out looking for cars to burglarize "

Glad we have nobody looking for cars to burglarize here in Palo Alto.


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Posted by The Color of Money
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2018 at 10:01 am

>>> "I'm originally from Texas and they tend to handle crimes like this a bit more expeditiously."

It took nearly 2-1/2 years following the arrests to finally arrive at a court sentencing decision?

Just how many 'continuances' did the court-appointed attorneys (assuming they had one) seek with the approval/consent of the court?

So as it stands, the convicted will also receive 'credit' for time served at the county jail...to be subtracted from their final sentence.

As usual, the taxpayers are now stuck with a bill for any extended court proceedings, the costs of the two defendants' legal representation + 2-1/2 year's room and board (including medical/dental if needed) at the 'Hotel Clark County'.

Crime and punishment is a racket...except for maybe in TX.


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Posted by Beige Nest
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 10, 2018 at 1:33 pm

I had the pleasure of knowing Neil quite well, since he lived in a house in Palo Alto for several years, and I was involved in its upkeep and maintenance. Neil was incredibly handy, fixed whatever was broken and did it well, was an absolute pleasure to work with, and was so smart and engaging. I had many long conversations with him, and I was so impressed with his knowledge, friendliness, and sense of humor.

I miss him greatly and may he rest in peace.

P.S. I too am dismayed and shocked that the 2 monsters, who killed him are getting such light sentences when you consider they shot to death a totally innocent man minding his own business. So, So Sad.


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Posted by Allison
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 10, 2018 at 9:04 pm

Neil was a very good friend of mine throughout late 90s and early 2000s. He was a very kind and supportive friend, not to just me, but A LOT of people. That was witnessed at his celebration of life event after his death. I spent a lot of time with him in San Francisco, but was happy to find out he landed in Palo Alto for a few years before his death, and I saw him for the last time just a few months before this senseless murder. He was the type of person that you had a cosmic connection to -- and it lasted a long time, through time. I can't describe it - but he just "got" people and I find myself talking to him now into the sky, just in case he can hear. Its just a gaping hole and his death is a real loss to this world. He truly was one of a kind.

Still so sad.


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Posted by Nayeli
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 11, 2018 at 12:50 am

This vile killer should have received the death penalty. In fact, I wish that the death penalty for heinous crimes like this would be implemented more quickly. It should include conviction and two automatic appeals followed by a review board.

If an admission of guilt is offered AND/OR the evidence is overwhelming, why should taxpayers flip the bill for a pointless life behind bars? Most of the costs associated with the death penalty are due to the enormous costs of endless legal appeals.

If capital punishment is meant to be a deterrent, then the punishment should happen when the crime is still relatively fresh in the minds of the killers.


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Posted by The Death Penalty Debate
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 11, 2018 at 8:00 am

>> This vile killer should have received the death penalty. In fact, I wish that the death penalty for heinous crimes like this would be implemented more quickly.

The death penalty is a very controversial subject. It always has been as the pro-con factions are very adamant in their convictions.

Personal opinion: Implementation of the death penalty (or life imprisonment) should be the choice of the immediate victim's family.


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Posted by jesse james
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Sep 11, 2018 at 1:18 pm

jesse james is a registered user.

I’m from Texas.In Texas if U take a life U pay with your life.This makes sense & prevents prison overcrowding.Remember when U take a life U take everything that person had & would have in future life.No parole for so called ‘good behavior “Simply pay the max just as the victim has done.This may also serve as a deterrent if those would be killers know their true fate.


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