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Cities' collaboration leads to interim Peninsula Bikeway

Original post made on Aug 27, 2018

The interim Peninsula Bikeway will be unveiled on Sept. 8 after two years of planning by staff in Menlo Park, Palo Alto, Mountain View, Redwood City and Stanford University.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, August 27, 2018, 2:48 PM

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Posted by parent
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 27, 2018 at 3:14 pm

We're really looking forward to a safer and more direct bicycle route connecting Palo Alto to Menlo Park and Mountain View. Our kids have friends in both cities, but the existing convoluted bicycle routes are too dangerous for children. They are probably too slow for adults as well. We don't want to have to drive the kids everywhere, especially when the distances are so short, but we have to right now.

Posted by bike commuter
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Aug 27, 2018 at 4:34 pm

Just use Strava's heatmap to see which roadways are used more frequently. Some routes in this Bikeway map are not that popular.

Posted by Me 2
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Aug 27, 2018 at 5:32 pm

"In other countries like the Netherlands and Denmark, Hancock said, many people cycle as their primary mode of transport, even though those countries are less naturally suited for cycling than the Peninsula."

And they're in more dense areas. What's missing with this comparison is how far a typical bike ride is in the Netherlands and Denmark, and what type of riding there is. I seriously doubt they are biking a lot through suburbs. But without hard data, I'm afraid we are just going to have to assume that this comparison is apples-and-oranges.

Posted by Pat Burt
a resident of Community Center
on Aug 27, 2018 at 8:37 pm

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Interestingly,over half of all commuters into Copenhagen from surrounding suburbs ride their bikes to work. And that is despite them not having a bit worse weather than us.

Posted by JR
a resident of Palo Verde
on Aug 27, 2018 at 9:15 pm

Whoever had the great idea to include California St. in Mountain View as part of the "Peninsula Bikeway" should be arrested for attempted murder. That street is deadly, I know semi-professional bikers who will not bike on that street. Cars speeding 40 MPH on one side, parked cars on the other side just waiting to open their doors into you, it's a death trap.

Posted by Restripe Middlefield
a resident of Menlo Park
on Aug 28, 2018 at 10:04 pm

Looking at this map feels like looking at a pile of spaghetti. I biked Bryant south today from Menlo to MV and it adds a good 25%+ to commute times compared with other routes due to its winding course through the circles. Why can't Palo Alto take a look at the VTA bicycle maps and see that we already have (or should have) a great N/S route called Middlefield. PA takes a fat dump right in the middle of that beautiful, straight, purple highlighted route indicating bike lanes. I typically commute Middlefield daily by car and it's quite obvious that Middlefield would flow much better without the traffic/turn lanes and the associated lane dodging that has been proven to slow the flow of traffic. Please just restripe it single lane each way with center turn/merge lane and convert the extra lane width to bike lanes on each side.

Posted by parent
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 28, 2018 at 10:48 pm

We agree with @JR that there are too many scoflow car drivers on California St in Mountain View. I hope that the police aggressively crack down on them to make the street safer. Widening the bike lanes on that street can help a lot.

Posted by Robert Neff
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 28, 2018 at 11:04 pm

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I'm glad to see this collaboration. I think it would be more useful to connect and highlight the bike networks as they connect to destinations in and between the cities, not just identify one route. It would be good to encourage common signage standards, instead of unique per city, and a regional map showing low stress routes.

Posted by actually been there
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 29, 2018 at 10:55 am

For Me 2

Here are some facts about the Netherlands and Denmark from a former resident.

They are both less dense than here. By comparison, the population of the entire nation of Denmark is less than the population of the Bay Area.

Bike lanes are in fact everywhere. Being less dense countries, that statement applies to city, suburbia, and rural.

Not a historian, so can't debate on the reasons, but definitely the attitude there is to use and enable bikes, whereas here it's to prioritize cars and build roads just for them.

One thing Mr. Hancock did get wrong was saying there are hills there. There aren't. Whatever geographic relief in DK or NL is mere bumps compared to California. Riding a bike from Page Mill & Junipero Serra to Foothills Park you'll get more elevation change than there.

Posted by Resident
a resident of another community
on Aug 30, 2018 at 3:41 pm

The main difference about cycle paths in Europe as to bike lanes here are that European cycle paths are completely separate from motorized vehicle roadways. They have their own stop lights when crossing other streets and the bike riders obey the stop signs and other cycle path rules which many on bikes do not do here.

If we could find some area to put in separated cycle paths, we might be somewhere near getting European numbers of bike riders.

Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Aug 30, 2018 at 8:37 pm

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""It's not as direct as you would want it to be," said Hugh Louch, principal at Alta Planning + Design, a consulting firm that focuses on multi-modal planning, describing the interim route."

Alta Planning & Design, Josh Mello's former employer who brought you Ross Rd etc.

"The Sept. 8 event is intended to launch the process for the cities to begin collecting public feedback on what people want in such a route and where it should be located. Middlefield Road, El Camino Real, and along the Caltrain tracks are potential options to explore for a route, Hancock said. "

Again with Middlefield Road?? Just say no. Again. If it was too dangerous and crowded 15 years ago and again 4 years ago, it's even more dangerous and crowded now.

As always, no outreach to those of us on Middlefield.

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