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So ugly I drive a different route

Original post made by Wade, Barron Park, on Jul 16, 2016

That new mega-something being built on JJ&F Market's old site (El Camino between Stanford and College) is such a ghastly eyesore that I now actually drive a different way to work so I don't have to see it.It makes me so sad and mad about architectural quality control in this city. Apparently there is none.

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Posted by Todd
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 16, 2016 at 11:54 am

It's a tragedy on the highest scale, a pox on all of humanity, that a building you don't find aesthetically pleasing exists in this world.


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Posted by M. Blue
a resident of Green Acres
on Jul 16, 2016 at 3:10 pm

Oh !
I misunderstood the title.
You're talking about a building.


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Posted by Vomit inducing
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 16, 2016 at 3:19 pm

Toddler and M. Blue-- well stated. As usual we get a small number of residents all up in arms over a building they personally do not like. Thank god there are people in the city that actually know what a building should look like and are there to tell us what our opinion should be.
Of course this is coming from a city that is full of eichler hovels and thinks that the birge Clark post office and the julia morgan dump are examples of good architecture!!!
Maybe now, though, they will have a new target instead of the JCC.


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Posted by Good name
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 16, 2016 at 3:41 pm

[Portion removed.]
One correction: The new ugliness of the College Terrace building in no way lessens the impact of the JCC prison walls lining San Antonio Road.

These monstrosities don't get designed by magic. The architect of College Terrace is Tony Carrasco.


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Posted by Vomit inducing
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 16, 2016 at 4:02 pm

And there you have it, good name. Differing opinions about buildings in the city. What makes your opinion more valuable than mine? And it is definitely ti e to get over the JCC.
But I love hearing from the 10 people on this forum that hate every new building in the city, because things were so wonderful and the city looked so good 20 years ago. [Portion removed.]


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Posted by Good name
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 16, 2016 at 11:54 pm

I didn't bring up the JCC, you did, Mr. V.I.

You just don't seem to understand. Recent construction is much BIGGER and right to the sidewalk. There is no way to ignore them. Take a look at 611 Cowper Street. The building practically swallows up a pedestrian (architect K.Hayes), or 801 Alma, and many more. One cannot avoid looking at the College Terrace thing, it's so in your face.

Any building that observes the legal setback from the street can look any way they please, and be any color at all, and it won't disturb the public because it doesn't force itself on your eyes.

Earlier builders weren't quite as greedy and exhibitionistic, it is a real change.


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Posted by Curmudgeon
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 17, 2016 at 5:55 pm

Smailey's revenge on Palo Alto for requiring the grocery store.


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Posted by What??
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 17, 2016 at 7:25 pm

I actually like the look of the new building, particularly the clock tower. OTOH, the hulking 3-story structure being built diagonally across El Camino Real at College is truly a monstrosity. And I really miss the neighborhood Chinese restaurant and locksmith in the 1-story structure that was torn down to make room for the new 3-story one.


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Posted by anon
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jul 18, 2016 at 11:52 am

One wonders if the architect for the JJ&F project was inspired by the adjacent Shell station logo.....garish red and yellow.

Perhaps that counts as compatible architecture in Palo Alto?!

The complex is so out of scale with everything surrounding it; and the below market rate housing looks like an afterthought tucked in an office complex.

Lets hope the city will be responsive if the project creates a lot a lot of traffic problems. Of course they claimed otherwise in staff reports when this building went through the public review process.

Also worthy of note: the "Construction logistics plan" for this building called for all the construction worker's private vehicles to be parked on site as soon as the finished the two story underground garage (a year ago ). The fact is the employees are not parking underground but on nearby surface/ neighborhood streets taking all the available parking for nearby uses!

Time for a reality check at city hall!


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Posted by I think its a beautiflu building
a resident of another community
on Jul 18, 2016 at 1:29 pm

probably because my heart is filled with love.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 18, 2016 at 1:33 pm

I suppose we are so used to the JCC now that it barely gets a mention on here anymore. The ugliness is now power for the course with all the other development going on around town and in Mountain View.

But I would like to ask if the JCC does offer any type of public transportation to members, residents and other attendees. I see problems with parking as all the local business offices have signs saying no JCC parking and I also know of one JCC member who wanted to attend a cancer survivors' exercise class and stopped attending because she could never park in their lot.

We were promised all kinds of things and I can't see that they met their promises. Does anyone know?


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Posted by HUTCH 7.62
a resident of Portola Valley
on Jul 18, 2016 at 2:09 pm

Oh gawd that ugly JCC compound. If there were Branch Davidians inside The ATF would ram a tank into it.

I get a feeling that alot of these ugly buildings will be torn down in 20 30 years. Or hopefully the big one come sooner than later and level these atrocities of architecture


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Posted by anon
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jul 18, 2016 at 2:17 pm

I have heard from many that parking at the JCC is impossible if there is a special event...

.....regardless the, JJ&F project is an example of complete lack of compatibility with the surrounding uses.




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Posted by Curmudgeon
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 18, 2016 at 3:39 pm

"Or hopefully the big one come sooner than later and level these atrocities of architecture."

Suppose it did. How could anyone tell?


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Posted by Vomit inducing
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 18, 2016 at 4:45 pm

LOL. I love this thread, where people are expressing their opinions and make it sound like it is some sort of gospel truth and only their opinion counts!!!!! And of course the never ending complaining about the JCC!!!! It sits opposite 2 gas stations and hanger like structure and replaced the lovely KFC building and sun microsystems factory!!!
Some people in palo alto have to complain about everything and they live in hideous eichlers, no less. Go figure.


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