Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, February 7, 2014, 8:50 AM
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Man arrested after violent struggle over officer's gun
Original post made on Feb 7, 2014
Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, February 7, 2014, 8:50 AM
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a resident of another community
on Feb 7, 2014 at 10:34 am
Elena Kadvany has written a good, chronological, clear account of a series of events that could have had a terrible ending.
Unfortunately, the quality of her solid reporting was dimmed by an unfortunate and incorrect phrase in the first paragraph.
This is the definition of a "wild goose chase":
a wild or absurd search for something nonexistent or unobtainable
Dictionary examples: a wild-goose chase looking for a building long demolished.
any senseless pursuit of an object or end; a hopeless enterprise: Her scheme of being a movie star is a wild-goose chase.
Almost outstanding report Ms. Kadvany. BTW, the story begs for two follows: 1) interview officer who was in the struggle for his weapon. What thoughts were in his mind in those terrifying seconds. 2) recall the last time a Palo Alto police officer died violently on duty.
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Feb 7, 2014 at 10:45 am
I have to comment on this story!
First, I want to commend the police, especially the one who first caught the suspect, for their bravery and appropriate (based on the story) use of force in capturing the man. Hopefully this felonious fellow will be prosecuted and serve time in prison for his actions. And I am thankful that the suspect was caught without significant injury to anyone.
My other comment is to suggest to the reporter that the use of the phrase "wild goose chase" does not seem to be correct in this case. A wild goose chase is by definition one where the likelihood of success is extremely low. It seems the chase was wild, but it doesn't seem to fit the definition of wild goose chase. I intend this as a friendly comment, because I am generally appreciative of the quality and large number of stories that the Weekly's small staff is able to produce.
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:12 am
I'm sure the officer was not thinking happy thoughts.... I recall a recent thread on PA online where one of the commenters was commenting about how he/she was just as much in danger being out in public as police officers in palo alto. Hopefully this story will enlighten that person. Seems like the officers would have been justified to shoot that guy
These cops come across situations every day, while not to this extreme, even in sleepy palo alto. What is not seen are the probable numerous encounters each day that do not reach this level of violence. Perhaps some of those are the result of good officers doing their jobs properly, safely. To continually question, malign and criticize via online threads is incorrect, unhelpful, and often ignorant. I will just say thanks when i see them.
What shocks me most, that the officer would be in such a violent struggle, in downtown, AND NO ONE OFFERED TO HELP? When I drive by that area, there are always tons of people. How many people just took out their cellphones to record it?
Great job PAPD!
a resident of another community
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:26 am
Meth is bad for you.
a resident of Portola Valley
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:26 am
I have the greatest respect for these officers. Good work PAPD.
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:30 am
Only in PA would folks quibble with a reporter's good work for such a small item. It works for me that Ryan Goodson was the one on the wild goose chase, in search of any number of ways to get arrested. The PAPD was lead on that chase, as insane as it was (drug induced?), by all the flapping that Goodson did. QED. Now, keep writing Ms. Kadvany ...and let's lock the bugger up for a nice long time.
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:34 am
You nerds make me laugh. I agree "wild goose chase" is the incorrect phrase, but more importantly, it's too casual to use in a news report.
The suspect appears to be a meth addict. Meth inhibits pain. Someone I know was involved in a fight with someone in EPA who was wired on meth (he was trying to evict him) and he hit the meth addict in the face with a pan and the guy just kept coming at him! It ended when this person jumped on the roof and shot holes through the meth addict's roof. Boy, do we have a boring life. . .
As to Randy's thoughts on why no one offered to help, perhaps in Richmond or a blue collar town someone would jump in, but this is nerdy Palo Alto.
Thank you to our PAPD for risking your lives to keep us safe - I'm always grateful to those who are in law enforcement.
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:39 am
Hmmm is a registered user.
Such a near miss for the officer, such a near tragedy for the police involved. It seems it might actually be a real tragedy for Goodson's loved ones. I'm so glad that the Taser officer was on scene so quickly, so that it wasn't a tragedy for all involved.
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:44 am
> Elena Kadvany has written a good, chronological, clear account of a series of events that could have had a terrible ending.
No new information here. The article is simply an adaptation of the PAPD press releases: Web Link and Web Link
Glad that none of the PAPD officers were seriously hurt. The press release didn't mention that a PAPD sergeant recommended that officers initially converge to the area around Emerson Street where the suspect was first spotted. Thinking they might have an active residential burglary, PAPD was fortunate to have a number of officers nearby to subdue Mr. Goodson. Still not clear how a holstered Glock 22 got separated from the PAPD officer's duty belt. But, the PAPD sergeant's smart action likely made what could have been a tragic situation turn out OK.
a resident of College Terrace
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:45 am
ChrisC is a registered user.
Thank god the PAPD officer was not shot. Thank you so much for your service to the community. As for bystanders not helping out, I'm not sure how wise it would be to get in the middle of a police officer with a gun and a crazy person grappling on the ground unless someone had been specially trained. This excitement still probably does not top the Chinese kitchen worker who ran through the Cal Ave area brandishing a cleaver.
a resident of another community
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:45 am
Thanks to all the readers who commented on the correct use of "wild goose chase." After further review, I removed the phrase.
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:55 am
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a resident of East Palo Alto
on Feb 7, 2014 at 11:56 am
Hmmm is a registered user.
Elena - I was on a bit of a "wild goose chase" when I tried to find the phrase, but didn't ;-)
a resident of Crescent Park
on Feb 7, 2014 at 1:46 pm
Guys - why so uptight about the goose chase phrase?! You're not the editor so just read the article and move on! The writer at the Weekly are doing just fine!
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 7, 2014 at 2:07 pm
Gethin is a registered user.
I am very glad that thanks to excellent police work this criminal is off the streets and thankful that no officer was severly hurt in the process
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Feb 7, 2014 at 2:55 pm
We usage freaks are always on the lookout here in Palo Alto. LAHscot, you should not have used "lead." Even though it's pronounced the same way in certain situations, "led" is the correct word here. I lead now, I led yesterday. The other "lead" is used in a sentence like "Get the lead out, soldier!"
Meanwhile, thanks be to God that the perpetrator here didn't fill the officer full of lead. I agree with those folks on other crime-related threads who suggest that maybe it's time to start neighborhood watch programs back up. But no, you folks who think we should all jump in to help the officer, interfering is more likely to cause problems than to help.
a resident of Mayfield
on Feb 7, 2014 at 3:17 pm
no one is saying cops arent in danger,they might be saying that everyday people are responsible for themselves cause they may have no weapons. again, randy like many others wants to make it seem like police are risking more than any 'average'' person. most people dont have a squad of police to comne running to protect them and even falsify events in court for them.police do. most people arent packing sidearms and tazers either, ask that bcouple in the home invasion if they dont risk as much as any officer. randy like many others wants it to make police more ''important'' than any living thing. no one needs to be ''enlightened''. thats a typical white rascist attitude. police are ''more important than you who are not police''.is it any wonder people like that guy do what he did. its that overvaluation of ''authority''. but as we know, if someone doesent like you, you could save them from a burning building and they'd accuse you of being a showoff. no arguing with people who value police over life itself. maybe thats what scared that guy into doing what he did. wonder what event will happen next to ''enlighten'' randy.
a resident of Monroe Park
on Feb 7, 2014 at 3:33 pm
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a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Feb 7, 2014 at 3:38 pm
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a resident of University South
on Feb 7, 2014 at 5:36 pm
Goodson is lucky to still be alive, as is the officer.
a resident of College Terrace
on Feb 7, 2014 at 5:42 pm
The initial police officer let the perp get his gun. Getting into a street wrestling match is not good policing. The cop should have tasered/gassed the perp or shot him. There is no need for the cops or innocent people to die. Imagine if the perp had gotten the sidearm working, shot the cop, then whoever else was around.
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 7, 2014 at 7:30 pm
Carl, Never been in a fight, have you?
enligh: Never said anything about "authority" or it being overvalued. You did, please don't think you know what I want. Your post says it all. Making it a racist thing, cops and their squads of buddies to falsify things, etc, let us all know how you think.
Police certainly arent better than anyone else. But they are the ones we task with capturing people like this guy. So we who can't, don't have to. I support them for doing things like this, even if they seem to do some bonehead2aV things time to time.
Can't fault the cop for not shooting the guy, if he did, this town (with enligh in attendance) would have held a rally to throw him in jail!
I recall a man in brentwood perhaps (?) who helped save a policewomans life not too ago
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Feb 7, 2014 at 8:14 pm
No, nerds are not known for physical courage,
a resident of College Terrace
on Feb 7, 2014 at 8:26 pm
"Carl, Never been in a fight, have you?"
Plenty of them, all the way through high school. That's back when boys were not yet neutered, and allowed to fight.
A cop, on his own, should not go to the ground with a perp, if he can possibly help it. This cop should have prevented it, with every means available to him, including shooting the perp. This could have been a very big tragedy, but for the fact that perp couldn't get the sidearm to work.
The cops have been neutered by the citizens of towns like Palo Alto. They dwell, before they act. ACLU threats, etc. We dodged a real bullet this time, could have been a real mass tragedy.
a resident of another community
on Feb 7, 2014 at 8:32 pm
I agree this guy was high on meth and wild as a goose, anyway. At first I thought he had a mental illness but his actions were not typical of anyone I've known with any variety of brain disorders. Would love to follow what happens to the guy once he cones down. [Portion removed.]
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