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Palo Alto's Ron Unz Leads Effort to Raise Minimum Wage in California

Original post made by Fred, Barron Park, on Nov 25, 2013

From today's NY Times

Ron Unz, a Silicon Valley millionaire, rose to fame by promoting a ballot initiative that essentially eliminated bilingual education in California. But after decades in the conservative movement, Mr. Unz is pursuing a goal that has stymied liberals: raising the minimum wage.

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Posted by Good Idea
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on Nov 26, 2013 at 12:53 pm

Makes cents; thanks for posting this.

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Posted by Higher-Minimum-Wages-Bad-Idea
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 27, 2013 at 5:38 pm

This is a bad idea. Far too much money is sent out of the US as remittances, to countries mostly in Central and South America—

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In 2011, remittances totaled $53.1 billion, more than eight times the amount of official aid, the report says.
More than half of those immigrating from Spanish-speaking countries -- 54% -- send part of their U.S. earnings home, and 17% of U.S.-born Latinos also maintain financial lifelines to relatives abroad, the Pew research shows.

Raising the salaries of illegals will only result in larger flows of money outside the county. Higher salaries will not result in the use of this money buying healthcare, or better housing. Higher wages will result in higher prices, and ultimately, more illegal immigration.

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Posted by Oiy!
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 29, 2013 at 9:16 am

Keep paying slave wages because minimum wage workers send TOO MUCH MONEY back to Mexico?


That's absurd. Besides, of all the people I know who make less than $15 an hour, none of them would remit - they either cannot afford to, or do not have family outside the US.

Raise the wage, let the rising tide lift all boats, and let's fix this economy. And ad indexing to it, as well.

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Posted by food for thought
a resident of another community
on Nov 29, 2013 at 12:27 pm

Why don't you Democrats understand that raising the minimum wage will not help the poor? Businesses will only raise their prices in order to pay for the wage increases will cause the price of products to go up which is called inflation. If you really want to make things better, get the government out of our business, put the country back on some form of a gold standard (Government increasing the money supply is the biggest cause of inflation. The gold standard would stop this CRIMINAL SCAM), and RAISE TARIFFS ON CHINA'S, etc. SLAVE PRODUCED GOODS SO OUR COMPANIES CAN COMPETE. The good news is that all that money from tariffs would go into the national treasury and could be used to run our government. The more goods that come into the country, the more $ goes to the treasury and that can allow the government to lower the tax burden on the American people and still pay for ALL OF its services. It is a win for the American people, not the BIG international CORPORATIONS SHIPPING ALL OF ITS LABOR TO CHINA. We, the people of the USA, don't need any new taxes on us (National Sales Tax, etc.) We need a "FAIR TRADING" POLICY INSTEAD OF A "FREE TRADE" POLICY.

P.S. There is nobody in our government smarter than our founding fathers were. They formed the government on the right principles from the start. Their enemies have been trying to undermine their efforts ever since through LIES AND DECEIT. Seek ye the truth and the truth shall set you free. By the way, did you know that a "free black man named ?Cyrus Attackus" was one of the leaders of the Boston Massacre? Did you know that whites were indentured servants too? Did you know that Thomas Jefferson tried to put anti-slavery statements in the Declaration of Independence, but OTHERS had it taken out? Point? Don't trust what your government tells you at face value. THEY LIE MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

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Posted by food for thought
a resident of another community
on Nov 29, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Clarification: Cyrus Attackus was a leader of the good guys in the Boston Massacre that was killed in the process. The government makes you think there were no free blacks in this country until the Union won the civil war and the just ISN'T TRUE.

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Posted by jake3_14
a resident of Southgate
on Nov 30, 2013 at 4:27 pm

@food for thought,

If you've listened to even a brief interview with Unz, you'd know that Wal-Mart would have to raise prices just *1%* to cover the increase in the minimum wage.

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Posted by jake3_14
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Nov 30, 2013 at 4:39 pm

This initiative is an example of the piecemeal approach that won't help minimum-wage earners move up the economic ladder. Not only should the minimum wage be $15.00 or more, the state should provide tax credits for employers whose employees get education to move themselves into more skilled and higher-paying work, whether in computer science or the trades. To get those credits, employers must provide a schedule conducive to getting an education, e.g., regular schedules, no split shifts, no middle-of-the day shifts. Also, get community colleges to change their class schedules to accommodate the part-time workers.

This is the kind of comprehensive legislation required to help the working poor, not the half-assed measures allowed by the initiative process.

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Posted by WOW!
a resident of Los Altos
on Dec 1, 2013 at 1:07 am

"Why don't you Democrats understand"?

Unz is a republican. Why don't you understand?

Otherwise, quite the post. From ron paul gold standard wingnuttery to free blacks in Boston dressing up as Native Americans to avoid blame for the tea party.

Yes, quite the post.

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Posted by rg
a resident of St. Claire Gardens
on Dec 1, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Not a good idea.

Raising the minimum wage causes inflation. Inflation benefits wealthy asset owners and hurts senior citizens on fixed income.

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Posted by listen to your Pontiff
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Dec 2, 2013 at 10:43 am

So called "inflation hawks" have been screaming the sky is falling about inflation for 20 years.

To use inflation as an excuse to pay a large part of the population below "living wage" seems rather un-Christian to me. Don't take my word for it, listen to the Pope:

"In this context, some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world," he said. "This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting."

Wow. Trickle down, and that whole Reagan kill-the-middle-class economic policy "...has never been confirmed by the facts".

Thank you, Pope Francis, for stating the obvious.

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Posted by cynthia curran
a resident of another community
on Dec 6, 2013 at 6:10 pm

Rising their salaries means using more robots in cleaning. Robots are getting better at doing this, this means less illegal Hispanics doing cleaning jobs. Less Fast food workers, Kiosks machines can reduce staff. In fact in California the Reagan and Clinton period seen more illegals since minimum was pretty low. In fact the food processing manufacturing and garment work would leave the state and the lower skilled jobs of those are mainly illegal immigrants. In Orange County an ad for food processing mentions for management to be bilingual. Many workers in food processing start at 8 to 8.50 per hr, either more automation and robots or move out of state.

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Posted by cynthia curran
a resident of another community
on Dec 6, 2013 at 6:18 pm

I mean coming under Reagan, Clinton and Bush II illegal immirgants since low skilled jobs were pretty low paying.

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Posted by Jon Stewart
a resident of another community
on Dec 7, 2013 at 9:54 am

See Thursday s Daily Show for a response to the bogus reasons for not raising the min wage. AS usual, Jon gets it. Fox doesn't.

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Posted by Sparty
a resident of another community
on Dec 7, 2013 at 10:14 am

I find it hard to believe anyone here has not worked in a restaurant...not a SINGLE person? Must have been a la di da fancy place then. Pretty much EVERY person making below $15/hr was sending money home. And working 2 jobs.

Beyond that, if you make fast food/WalMart etc raise wages--either food will get worse, or go up in price-- neither bodes well for people who make their living off those who want to be spending their money in cheap places.

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