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Police to hold crime-prevention, emergency prep events

Original post made on Apr 11, 2012

Pledging to increase community involvement in crime prevention and disaster preparedness, two educational events will be hosted by the City of Palo Alto Office of Emergency Services and the Palo Alto Police Department in the coming weeks.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 10:30 AM

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Posted by A-Never-Ending-Waste-Of-Time-And-Money
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 11, 2012 at 11:02 am

> In a major disaster

And just what is a “major disaster”? And when has Palo Alto ever seen anything close to a “major disaster”?

Are we talking another creek flood, bio-weapons attack, or possibly a nuclear attack? Are the people who continue to push this waste of time and money ever going to at least define the events that constitute “disasters”, and provide some level of classification, and response level that the City expects from sources outside of Palo Alto—like the County, the State, FEMA, and the US Military?

Are we supposed to believe that the Palo Alto Neighborhoods is going to be trained, and prepared, to respond to a 50MT nuclear attack on Silicon Valley?

More mush-headed nonsense.

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Posted by neighbor
a resident of another community
on Apr 11, 2012 at 12:05 pm

Disasters happen. Yup, the flooding from El Nino qualifies. We have lots of potential situations here -- we all know that we live way-too-close to the San Andreas Fault.

Talking about a "50MT nuclear attack" is just sarcastic nonsense because we'll all be crispy critters in that one.

But, there are recognized disaster levels, and in any "big one" don't expect an immediate response/help unless you are at the critical disaster epicenter. You might feel otherwisea about how serious you've been impacted, but you'll have to wait for help if you are not the areawide priority. There aren't enough response resources to immediately respond to everyone.

My neighborhood in LA was hit hard in the 1994 Northridge quake (collapsed houses, no utilities at all, BAD situation) but emergency response services were prioritized to go to Northridge and several freeway collapses where things were much worse. Our neighborhood had the CRT training and took care of itself for over a week until help could arrive (neighbors took care of each other, did medical and psychological first aid, pooled resources, cooked/slept on the streets, etc.) Our neighborhood watch kept an eye out for thieves too -- just as they did in non-disaster times.

The training made a huge difference, as would PA's proposed emergency and crime prevention training. (Certainly PROPER "eyes on the street" training prevents crime, and might have prevented a tragedy like the one in Florida).

Both programs will save lives, money, and city resources, as well as build a cooperative community spirit....something very sadly lacking these days in Palo Alto.

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Posted by publik
a resident of St. Claire Gardens
on Apr 11, 2012 at 4:09 pm

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Posted by george
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Apr 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm

To A-Never-Ending-----. There is one "major disaster" that could happen - an earthquake.

The Northridge (Loma Prieta) earthquake of 1989 (not 1994) had a magnitude of 6.9 on the Richter scale and the epicenter was about 50 to 60 miles south of Palo Alto. We don't know when, not if, another major earthquake will occur. "Neighbor" described what happened in Los Altos in 1989 and how they coped because they had some training and had made smart preparations.

Consider what would happen if the epicenter had been closer to our area - streets buckled, homes collapsed and on fire, no electrical power or water, maybe no telephone or cell phone service because the support and relay structures were toppled. 911 would be swamped if phone service even existed.

In Palo Alto there are 50 or fewer first responders (fire, police, emergency medical technicians) to answer calls at any given time. Every adjacent community will be in the same boat, we can't depend upon them to help.

With a population of >60,000 at a minimum, almost everyone will be thrown on their own resources for an unknown period. We must depend upon preparation and neighbor helping neighbor. So, yes. Training of any kind would be vital to meet a disaster, large or small.

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Posted by neighbor
a resident of another community
on Apr 11, 2012 at 9:40 pm

George -- I appreciate the supportive sentiment, but I must correct you with the facts.

1. The Loma Prieta earthquake was the 1989 event, and it's epicenter was in the Santa Cruz Mountains. The final Richter number assigned to the quake was 6.9.

2. The Northridge Earthquake was in Southern California in 1994 (I was there). Northridge is in the San Fernando Valley, in Los Angeles. The epicenter was near the CalState Northridge campus. The quake is usually given a Richter number of 6.8.

Glad you are supporting preparedness. Thx.

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Posted by Beth
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 12, 2012 at 9:37 am

Resident of St.Claire gardens enough of the zimmerman case !I guess you do not watch t.v. but he was arrested and booked so put it to rest!! I'm Black ! and a Law student and Blacks and Whites and any other race are glad it's in the courts now! You do not no the laws in Florida!! 2nd degree charge that means intent on zimmermans part! Travon will get justice!and stop with the racism talk I'm sick of hearing it! our race has come along way!! we have a Black president!!
we have further to go and we will! but not WITH your attitude, knowledge is power so go get yourself a education!! and you are so off topic about what the PA police are trying to help us with! I guess you don't NO that we have lots of baby earthquakes and we are very close to the fault line, they are trying to spread the awareness to people that do not no where to go!or how to contact the BPC's and they are also trying to help with the burglaries that have plagued PA!

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Posted by george
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Apr 12, 2012 at 9:55 am

Thank you neighbor. An hour or so after posting my message, I realized I had made a mistake and confused the two earthquakes. I thought LA referred to Los Altos, not Los Angeles.

I think Palo Alto is running an up hill race to make people aware of why being prepared for small and large emergencies is so important. I admire those who do take it seriously and are learning how to cope.

I am confused as to why publik is posting on this thread. I don't get the connection.

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Posted by Gethin
a resident of Midtown
on Apr 12, 2012 at 5:29 pm

I would think that its obvious that some level of awareness and training on how to deal with emergency situations can never be a waste of time. The people I have met who are involved in these programs seem to be very dedicated and well intentioned.
Depending on the type of emergency having some idea on how to care for yourself and your neighbors is much better than having no idea at all.
I fully support all these programs and the people involved in them.

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Posted by antone braga
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Apr 19, 2012 at 4:15 am

Preppy's Magic Spyglass! See now. - Sign a petition at for the "responsible" insurance industry to provide crucial information and policyholder rights (yes, they do exist) to all policyholders as a matter of course. Disaster survivors lack these basic rights and vital information in their time of need, when they are most vulnerable.

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