Why is it relevant the Liroff lives in PA? Isn't it more relevant, overall, that these incidents occurred among DDAs who represent the SC County?

Agree, why is it relevant that he lives in Palo Alto? Seems like Ms. Dremann has something personal against the man...

To "Hmmm" and "Ada":
If you had taken the name of the web site "PaloAltoOnline.com" into consideration, you might have figured out why the Palo Alto connection was legitimately mentioned.

"Hmmm," "Ada":

We report about people and events related to Palo Alto. I have absolutely nothing against Mr. Liroff and don't know him personally.

Perhaps one of the local papers might ask Delores Carr if the employees of the SCC District Attorney's Office had better supervision, if these situations would have occurred?

Might be interesting to ask the new DA what he plans to do to make certain that these sorts of things don't happen on his watch ..

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Haha, "these sort of things don't happen of his watch.." hahah you really made me laugh. Rosen himself is probably doing the same thing. This is how the justice system game is played in this country: Police will get a suspect, DDA will get a conviction. Who is the one searching for the truth? Don't tell me the public defender.

I don't blame DDAs for misconduct. The justice system allows them to run a mock with it, and with innocent people. They have to meet their "conviction rate" quotas that their bosses set for them. They probably don't want to do what they do, but they have to do it. Ultimately, they convince themselves they are just doing their job, so that they have a clear concious.

Concience*

"Santa Clara County District Attorney Dolores Carr said Monday that in her experience as a judge and DA such cases are relatively few and that most prosecutorial misconduct is not malicious but a product of insufficient training and experience"

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I hope that the DA's and their assistants in Santa Clara, and yes, particularly in Palo Alto, get punished for their frequent misconducts. This is America, a country that prides itself on civil liberties and civil rights. Such misconduct and violations of civil rights by the authorities should be severely punished.

Why does this surprise anyone.

A corrupt justice system is just one more aspect of the new 3rd world America.

Too much pressure on DDAs to do the wrong thing rather than the right thing. What prosecutor wants to admit, after bringing up charges, that they made a mistake and drop those charges? NONE NONE NONE. Some would lie and cheat, and some would just act stupid. But who is the loser at the end of the day? An innocent person who got wronged by that DA. If you are a poor innocent man or woman then forget about the system working in your favor. If you are a rich or middle class innocent man and woman then pray your money will get you out after the lies and deceipts of the DA. Either way, you either lose your life savings and make your family poor and get out, or you lose your life savings, make your family poor, and get stuck in prison for something you didn't do. As a poor innocent man or woman, forget about it. You are paying for someone else's crime.

This is why corrupt prosecutors need to be punished to the extreme, and go to jail even. This way other prosecutors will think twice before they bring charges and make lies as they go to protect their first lie.

Yeah, Doug Moran, I got the connection between the place Liroff lives and this publication. So? It still seems irrelevant. What's relevant is where Liroff works. However, does he lives in PA or does he work at north county courthouse in PA? Is that the point of the article? It's ridiculous to think his living in PA has any bearing on the story, whereas how he conducts his work life if the important factor.

Ms. Dremann, I never thought you had anything personal going on in this story - that silly comment, made by Ada, didn't even make sense.

To "A-Good-Attorney's-Hard-To-Find," the question of supervision is a valid one. This incident involving Lane happened when George Kennedy was D.A., and the office had a poor reputation for ethics. Simply put, winning was more important than following the rules. Many DDAs were disciplined during Kennedy's era and convictions were flipped by the appeals court all the time. The special treatment cops got when they broke the law was appalling.

Remember Luis Verbera, a Palo Alto police officer who handcuffed women he pulled over for traffic violations, and then sexually assaulted them in his car before letting them go with a warning that they would be killed if the ever spoke about it? Kennedy gave Verbera a plea bargain that called for 12 months in jail. That's how it worked with Kennedy. Cops and other government employees routinely got special treatment. Remember Robert Gremmenger?

It was also Kennedy's office that concealed from defense attorneys videotapes VMA made of kids who were involved in molestation cases.

Despite the campaign Rosen ran this spring, things improved a bit under Dolores Carr, though that was because she never became engaged in the day-to-day activities of her office, allowing her DDAs to do whatever they wanted to do. No leadership. I think you could argue that she was corrupt in allowing her money to accept a "retainer" from a murder victim's family, but that's about all you could find on her.

I'm hoping Rosen sticks to the ethics he campaigned on. What worries me is that he has a bunch of Kennedy's people surrounding him. He'll need to keep them on a short leash if he is to deliver on his ethics pledge.

I meant VMC (not VMA), which stands for Valley Medical Center

I never knew the details in the Verbera case. Wow, bad! Is there info online that I can read up? I had a weird run in w/him years ago and wasn't all that surprised when I read in the papers about him.

Regardles as to where whom lives, the bottom line is there was misconduct in the DA's office. Now let's see if Carrr reports them to the bar association or do she just let it go.

Oh... yea... I don't care whom else reports these attorneys, let's see what her role will be. ] don't know this person, only her reputation from articles and public opinon and it is not pretty. Why is she the DA?

"Santa Clara County District Attorney Dolores Carr said Monday that in her experience as a judge and DA such cases are relatively few "

Dolores Carr to kiss my ass !