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Library Bond - Property Tax

Original post made by Property Tax, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Oct 1, 2009

My property tax has increased by over $500, the increase is usually about $100. Thanks Library Bond.

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Posted by Nora Charles
a resident of Stanford
on Oct 2, 2009 at 12:48 am

Agreed. The tax amount alone is staggering, but when additional fees are added it's just too much. Enough!

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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 2, 2009 at 2:16 am

The days of the traditional public library are long gone yet Palo Alto insists on throwing good money after bad in a sort of misplaced nostalgia manipulated by SEIU/ACORN operatives.

Go to the Main or Down Town branches and you will see a sort of day care psychiatric center with lots of patients but no staff.
Those who are not indigent are checking out free DVDs or surfing the web.
Michell Park operates the same way and as an after school care center.

The schools all have libraries and they are better qualified to provide after school child care.

Why are we wasting money on an outdated city lidrary institution?

Serious users reserve their books online and go in to pick them up, this service could be provided by an automated kiosk operating 24/7 at a tiny fraction of the price we now pay.

We have a dedicated Childrens Library yet 1/3 of the Main branch is now a childrens section. Why?
This is an absurd, wasteful, antiquated and irrelevant library system that is both capital intensive and with high labor costs that adds no value.

We are paying huge taxes to subsidize a function that is already provided by video stores, Netflicks, Internet cafes and Google etc.

As for the indigent, CPA could rent one of the many vacant store fronts on University Ave and staff it with social workers and EMTs 24/7 for a tiny fraction of what we waste on libraries that fail to provide solutions for the indigent.

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Posted by Rob
a resident of Woodside
on Oct 2, 2009 at 7:26 am

Wow, variable fluxuations in property tax like that just ensure I will never settle back in Palo Alto.

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Posted by toomuch
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 2, 2009 at 12:12 pm

Are you sure it is the library bond? We also noticed a whopping $500 increase but thought it was due to the schools.

Another question -- are seniors exempt from paying the Palo Alto bond tax? How old do you have to be to qualify?

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Posted by Eric
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 2, 2009 at 1:06 pm

If you study your property tax bill and compare it to last years you will see that the increase represents the annual 2% increase allowed under Proposition 13. According to local realtors, most of Palo Alto did, in fact, enjoyed an increase in property values last year.

Toomuch: No, Seniors are not exempt from paying the "Palo Alto bond tax." Seniors pay all bond taxes. They are, however, exempt from paying the parcel tax for schools, but only if they apply for the exemption.

The parcel tax was passed by Palo Alto voters with a clause included which allowed for the Senior exemption. If they had not included the Senior exemption, it probably would not have passed.

Bond funds are levied for building programs only. The parcel tax can be used for teachers salaries and operating expenditures.

Seniors will be paying for the library bond. However, having studied my 2009/2010 property tax bill, I'm not even sure the library bond was included. Can someone out there confirm this?

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Posted by Willis
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 2, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Close all but one library and make one super library. There are too many in Palo Alto. It's a waste of money.

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Posted by Facts
a resident of another community
on Oct 2, 2009 at 2:37 pm

The Library Bond debt service assessment isn't even there yet! The bonds haven't been sold yet, and will not be until the spring of 2010 when the first construction contracts are awarded by the City.

Take a closer look at your property tax bill. Whatever it is that you think you're complaining about, it isn't the Library Bond!

Your comments are misguided at best.

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Posted by Property Tax
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 2, 2009 at 3:11 pm

My Property Tax bill contains a new item from last year "CO BOND 2008 HOSP FAC" without any explanation. It may be something about hospitals. But it is a new line item. Anyone know what it is if it isn't the library bond which we were told would appear on this year's bill?

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Posted by library user
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 2, 2009 at 3:36 pm

Why do we need 5 library branches for a town our size... it's silly and expensive.

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Posted by Facts
a resident of another community
on Oct 2, 2009 at 3:37 pm

To "property tax" -

I believe that is the County Bond 2008 Hospital Facilites - paying for the rennovation of Valley Medical Center in San Jose. Oh well, we are residents of Sanat Clara County............just barely!

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Posted by Eric
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 2, 2009 at 5:08 pm

Tkx Facts. To all those complaining about the Library Bond; your complaints are premature. The Library Bond is not included on your 2009/10 property tax bill because the Bonds have not been sold yet.

I presume the 2% increase reflects the rise in our property values. Everyone should be please, your Palo Alto properties are now worth more this year than they were last.

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Posted by Property Bond
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 2, 2009 at 6:47 pm

Thanks Facts.

This hospital bond is a new item on my bill and my increase is more like 5% not 2%. I got such a shock that I assumed (wrongly as it turns out) that it was due to the library bond. It is a good job the library bond isn't there as the increase this year is big enough already!

Did we vote on this hospital bond? I don't remember anything about it, even if it is in San Jose.

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Posted by to property bond
a resident of Esther Clark Park
on Oct 3, 2009 at 12:25 pm

Yes, I remember there was a county measure on a recent ballot for the hospital bonds.

I hope people realize that when we vote for bonds we end up paying for them one way or the other.

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Posted by Library lover
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 3, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Looks like the library haters are still here, in force/ Read your property tax bill; the library bond isn't there. Stop making incorrect assumptions. Try visiting a library and taking out a book on how to think logically. Or, just leave Palo Alto, and good riddance!

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 5, 2009 at 3:00 pm

Although I am in favor of maintaining all of our branch libraries, I was not in favor of the size increase of the Mitchell Park library. It would be better to build another smaller branch in South Palo Alto to replace Terman library. I understand the tax for the library bond is not yet on our property tax bill. The taxes on my property tax bill that are not for my house cause too big an increase of my tax bill. I'm sixty-five years old and can't afford these extra taxes. Some of us work at Stanford University and again have a freeze on our salary.

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Posted by Eric
a resident of Meadow Park
on Oct 5, 2009 at 11:26 pm

Resident: I agree with you about the size of the new Mitchell Park Library, it is too big. However, it does include a Community Center. The fact that we have a community center at Cubberley seems to be a duplication of facilities.

There is a hospital bond included this year as well as a 2% increase in your property taxes.

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Posted by Wha?
a resident of another community
on Oct 6, 2009 at 10:15 am

Oh that Sharon, what a comedienne! For a working women, you are all over these blogs with nastiness and discontent.

Please, move somewhere else.

Turns out your hate about libraries and all things union are misplaced here. A new hospital will be built with that money. Let's hear about how horrible that is. I bet the nurses are unionized.

Let the nastiness begin again.

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