Unfortunately we gave legal power to Scotland in this matter, even though the majority of victims were American.

The UK released a number of IRA terrorist killers as part of a peace deal with the IRA, I presume they are following a similar logic and looking to benefit from a new relationship with Libya--$$$.

The mistake we made was not having the trial here where the thug would have gotten the death the death penalty.

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Libya is paying $100s M to the families and their act put Pan Am out of business.They have admitted guilt in the matter.
Libya has stopped their nuke program. They want to do business with the West.

The deal was obviously economic and political, that is war and the end of war.
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This guy was a prisoner of war and the victims on the PanAm flight were just collateral damage.

Then why dress this pig up in the costumes of convergence - English/Libya/Scottish?

He is a terrorist solider and the Government of Libya is part of state sponsored murder of civilians.

I got it now - all is better now some people have more cash in their collective trade business pockets.

Gary--can't resist a chance to bash Obama? The only mention of Obama in the link you posted is;
"Anger over the decision continued to grow in Washington, where it has already been condemned by President Obama and Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State. "

What do you suggest? that the US invade Libya or Scotland?

Isn't also a fact that many of the families of survivors in GB think that this guy was not guilty?

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"One of the first questions asked of me by every journalist and reporter covering the story of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi is: why is there such an apparent divide between US relatives and British or Irish relatives? Why do the Americans believe he is guilty, while we remain to be convinced?"

"Brown is saying nothing, and Obama is issuing the most tame of "outrage" statements."

Now this is rich: whining over someone else's alleged failure to whine.

Gary, if you want the Scots bashed, bash them yourself. Don't be so timid. They won't bite you.

Lest ye gullibles start to believe your own denials, I suggest you take a look at this blog ( Web Link ) from Scotland.

Brown is being peeled like an onion. This thing did not go down on the basis of some small potatoes minister in Scotland. Brown is at the center of this, and he is a very strong supporter of Obama. I find it naive, at best, to assume that Brown did not communicate with Obama about this ahead of time. The "outrage" by Obama and Clinton did not occur until after the familes started to raise a serious fuss.

A White House reporter needs to ask Obama the following queston: "Mr. President, did you have any communication with PM Gordon Brown, about the release of the murderer, prior to his release?"

This case points out the primary defect of life without possibility of parole - there is always the possibility some dipwad politician will ignore the verdict and compassionately decide 'He's suffered enough'.

They are all dipwad politician some more dipped than others into the cauldron of corruption.

And here is a guy that finances these candidates and there are more.

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As for a solution to these politicians: Put Gordon Brown in the jail cell of this terrorist and have him serve the remainder of the prison term.

"Lest ye gullibles start to believe your own denials, I suggest you take a look at this blog ( Web Link ) from Scotland."

We also say the same about gullibles like you, who overcome with hatred for Obama, will believe anything on the internet


"Brown is at the center of this, and he is a very strong supporter of Obama. "
And this is relevant to the issue how?

"I find it naive, at best, to assume that Brown did not communicate with Obama about this ahead of time."

Naive? well, why don;t you provide some proof for your statements instdead of your usual anti-Obama rantings

"The "outrage" by Obama and Clinton did not occur until after the families started to raise a serious fuss. "

You continue to play fast and loose with the facts, no doubt your thought processes are clouded iwth your hatred for Obama.
Obama

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"President Barack Obama said the Scottish decision to free terminaly ill Abdel Baset al-Megrahi on compassionate grounds was a mistake and said he should be under house arrest. Obama warned Libya not to give him a hero's welcome."

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Also Thursday, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said the United States had repeatedly asked Scotland to keep Abdel Baset al-Megrahi in custody. Gibbs said: On this day, we extend our deepest sympathies to the families who live every day with the loss of their loved ones.Attorney General Eric Holder released a statement saying he was extremely
disappointed with the release.


"A White House reporter needs to ask Obama the following queston: "Mr. President, did you have any communication with PM Gordon Brown, about the release of the murderer, prior to his release?""

Why should a reporter ask Obama that question? And if Obama says no, then you will say he is lying.
You hav eyour agenda, Gary and it is pretty clear. You are now using the Lockerbie victims in order to fulfill your own personal agenda. Shame on you.

"Why should a reporter ask Obama that question? "

Because it would lock him into telling the truth. If he says "no", and then the facts begin to suggest something different, Obama can be held to his word. All he has to do is tell the truth.

Scotland does not have a foreign minister or ministry, all foreign relations are handled by the UK.
Scotlands relation to Britain is the same as Bavarias relation to Germany.
Therefore UK prime minister Brown had to approve the release of the prisoner to Libya and he did.

Brown would not do this without Obamas agreement, the UK and the USA are allies, we are fighting a war together and we have multiple intelligence relationships such as Echelon Web Link Obama had to agree to this deal for it to take place and he did.It is also consistent with his "empathic" domestic and foreign policies.

To deny this does not make any sense,

I presume the logic for the deal is as follows----

We want cooperation with Libya to stem the spread of Islamic terrorists in the Maghreb, the Sudan and the rest of Africa, we also want to balance the massive influence of China in the region.

Obama and Brown are politicians of the same school, hypocrisy and expediency is what they do.

This thing has 'plausible deniability' written all over it.

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Libya should pay some price for not keeping the deal low key as was no doubt in the deal cut by the UK and USA in this matter.

It was foolish of them to " celebrate " the release, they should have put him quietly under house arrest.

Libya has already paid out $100M to the victims families-- while still not accepting " formal" guilt.

BTW it turn out the terrorist may live for quite some time

"The Lockerbie bomber could live far longer than predicted by Scottish ministers when they decided to release him, a cancer expert has warned" Web Link

Oh well--- never mind.

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It's all about oil and who gets the biggest contracts with Libya. At the moment it's British Petroleum (BP).

Also, the decision to return the bomber to Libya on compassionate grounds gets the Scottish Courts off the hook for a possible miscarriage of justice as the bomber planned to appeal his prison sentence. There appear to have been some possible irregularities in his first trial.

Interesting question

Non of the Axis bombers were tried in WW2 yet they killed lots of women and children, so did we.

History is written by the victors.

Libya can help us regarding China and terrorist, they can also provide gas and oil.

Obama is a politician like, any other, they all break your heart in the end, he has just done it sooner than others

Now we see that Gaddafi is coming to Englewood, NJ. Let's see how intense the Obama threats are against this thug, given the hero welcome back in Libya. The neighbors, Jews, are already being trespassed upon. What will Obama do to suppress this guy to his minimal international rights? Why is he being allowed to harrass the neighbors of his compound?

I don't think we can expect any real push back, because
Obama and Brown cooked up this deal behind the curtains.

A release of a mass murderer or terrorist on humanitarian grounds just seems wrong under any circumstances. These are not the cases that deserve compassion, and the politics of it can go awry. It is not too much to expect that those in charge anywhere in the world might be expected to understand that.

We how much the lives of 279 terrorism victims are worth:Web Link


The British government decided it was “in the overwhelming interests of the United Kingdom” to make Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber, eligible for return to Libya, leaked ministerial letters reveal.

Gordon Brown’s government made the decision after discussions between Libya and BP over a multi-million-pound oil exploration deal had hit difficulties.
These were resolved soon afterwards.

The letters were sent two years ago by Jack Straw, the justice secretary, to Kenny MacAskill, his counterpart in Scotland, who has been widely criticised for taking the formal decision to permit Megrahi’s release.

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Above is a story on the letter that was written by Obama White House in support of RELEASING THIS TERRORIST WHO MURDERED 279 people....

The truth eventually does get out, but unfortunately most folks will continue to believe the script as it was written by this White House.


Why, why, why does this President put such "historic" value on THIS guy's life "out of compassion", and none for his victims, and by extension the victims of all terrorists?

Those who cried then ( and still cry) "racist" and "hate" by those of us who have no trust at all in the word of this White House...think about this. This White House lies non-stop..the old saying "if the lips are flappin' he's lyin'" holds true with this Admin and all his cronies.

The saddest part is that we have to rely on media OUTSIDE OUR COUNTRY to uncover this. We have truly entered a "historic" era, when we have no real journalists left, just propogandists for the White House.



Think about it.

Obama supported this, we now know--yes, we know. but we also know now that Bush/Cheney knew about 9/11 and encouraged the plot to be carried forward

nice joke, RL..right up there with those who believe FDR knew about the upcoming attack on Pearl Harbor and did nothing, we never went to the moon, it was a hoax, and the "Cuban missile crisis"..wasn't.