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Obama's safety net: the TelePrompter

Original post made by Gary, Downtown North, on Mar 6, 2009

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If anyone cares to see how he goes off the rails, when his teleprompter shuts off, check this out:

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His Emptiness has no core values. If he did, he would not need to rely on the teleprompter. He is lost without it. He is fully scripted by his handlers. He has been generously described by those on his side as "not a policy wonk". OK, so he is not a policy wonk...neither was Reagan. The difference is that Reagan had superior core ideas...he didn't need to be a policy wonk, like Clinton. Obama is neither Reagan nor Clinton. He is just an empty suit.

Hugo Chavez has just suggested that Obama join him on the socialist path. Since Obama is already on that path, Chavez should be feeling bully, at this point. When Obama makes his acceptance speech to Chavez, he just needs to bring along his teleprompter. I am confident that Obama will then make a very slick speech in favor of serfdom.

Who will be the Dem nominee in 2012?

Comments (35)

Posted by Peter
a resident of another community
on Mar 6, 2009 at 8:53 pm

Gary, you obviously didn't read the full article or chose to ignore the points that didn't agree with your preconceptions (or ideological slant). Even Republican operatives said that he was communicating well, and should keep doing what works. The article also noted that he wrote or had a strong hand in his speeches and statements and used the teleprompter in the same way some people use notecards or other aids. President Obama does take time to consider his answers to questions because he thinks about he questions before he answers; a halmark of an intelligent person. Obama's style is in direct contrast to your hero Mr. Bush, a real empty suit, who blurted out whatever came to mind, to his detriment and ours.

Your other hero, Ronnie Popular, was a guy who believed in flying saucers and used an astrologer as a guide. He also oversaw an era of increasing governmental size and massive deregulation -- which let loose the culture of greed that has seen its culmination in recent times.


Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 6, 2009 at 9:29 pm

"“It’s just something presidents haven’t done,” said Martha Joynt Kumar, a presidential historian who has held court in the White House since December 1975. “It’s jarring to the eye. In a way, it stands in the middle between the audience and the president because his eye is on the teleprompter.”

Just how much of a crutch the teleprompter has become for Obama was on sharp display during his latest commerce secretary announcement. The president spoke from a teleprompter in the ornate Indian Treaty Room for a few minutes. Then Gov. Gary Locke stepped to the podium and pulled out a piece of paper for reference."

No, Peter, I read the entire article. Unless I have suddenly become delusional, or I am too tired, I don't see anything to support your comments in the article I provided.

His Emptiness is just an empty suit. Best to admit it now, instead of waiting for four years of disaster, believing that he is something of substance. Even worse, we will have Joe Biden to replace him, if he decides it is all too much for him, and resigns.

We are in big trouble. How did this happen?


Posted by American Hope
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Mar 6, 2009 at 11:44 pm

His Emptiness must resign and allow a new election so the American people can hire a person with real leadership.

Poor Obama is not up to job even as a frontman. I would not put it past the Clintons to set him up for this fall. So she/he can come to the rescue.

Just an observation, the democrat party is supported by the unions, yet in the first 40 days all this guy has done is slam companies that use incentive travel and off-site promotions for rewarding their employees achieving goals and success. Now, comes the President of the United States concerning himself with what the private sector has taken years to develop into proven HR recruitment and retention plans. The point is who suffers? We all do but mostly the poor Las Vegas union worker that loses his/her job due to lack of business. And why, because the President talks about this which is frankly none of his business.

Now comes the news that His Emptiness is seeking advice from a company founder that makes no product and is in cash burn mode i.e.; not-profitable. Just what exactly does Ev Williams bring to the table unless you are in need of pop-culture cool.





Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 7, 2009 at 7:44 am

Hiow sad, Gary--you are so bitter anbd filled with hatred for Obama that you troll the internet searching for factoids to bash Obama with--you are a real hatriot


Posted by Perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 7, 2009 at 11:25 am

Yes, I noticed also that BHO is seeking the advice of yet another failing non-business for how to recover.

When he seeks the advice of a successful company, like maybe WalMart, then I will believe he is actually trying to help out the American economy.

In the meantime, with any luck, we will settle into a European economy until we change leadership, which will mean perhaps, nationally, only 10% of us will be unemployed, we won't lose too much more business, and home ownership won't decrease too much more. ( Not counting the more socialist States, like Michigan, California, New York and Mass, of course, where it will all be worse, like it will all be worse in Europe)


Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 7, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Once again, Marvin...(sigh), there you go again.

I don't hate Obama. He seems like a decent guy. I would probably enjoy watching him play a pick up game of basketball against my son. A little chat over a bar-b-que...nice.

My problem with Obama is that he lacks a core set of beliefs that are good for our country. To put it another way, he is not presidential material. I don't hate him, I just think he is an empty suit.

I think his decision to allow stem cell reserach is a good one (I disagreed with Bush on that one, although I respected the moral decision process that went into it). Obama was just satisfying his supporters on this one, and he took no political risk, but even a broken clock is right twice per day.

Here is my free advice to Obama, none of which would cause him a big test of courage:

1. Support a decrease in capital gains and corporate tax rates. This will increase the take of taxes for the federal government.

2. Support an elimination of taxes on interest in savings accounts, up to $200k.

3. Support nuclear power.

4. Support oil driling off our coasts.

5. Oppose the union card check.

6. Support tort reform. This would help to decrease the overloading of emergency rooms, by reducing the threat of law suits. Defensive medicine is bad for all of us.

7. Support ICE raids on illegal employers of illegal aliens.

I have a much longer list, but I just gave these items up for free, but I actually DO like Obama. As an empty suit, he would be better off allowing me to be his handler, as opposed to the leftist string pullers who are currently jerking him around.


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Mar 8, 2009 at 8:15 am

Poor, Gary, living in a fantasy world--he not make a single post without denigrating Obama. A real hatriot, in the Rush Limbaugh style.


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 8:43 am



Obama's approval rating at lowest since inauguration.RasmussenWeb Link


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 8:54 am

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

Teleprompters are an efficient way for the Soros word to get to the President. Clever how they hide the shock collar for when he gets off topic.


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 9:16 am

Sharon--56% approve. Approval ratings have gone fluctuated from 65% to 56%.
what is your point or are you just stirring the pot?


Posted by Not in my Name
a resident of Barron Park
on Mar 9, 2009 at 9:39 am

>> Teleprompters are an efficient way for the Soros word to get to the President. Clever how they hide the shock collar for when he gets off topic.

LOL - Walter

Speaking of obama going off topic, like he did when he call the New York Times to deny he was a socialist. What he fail to say was the topic should have been how he is really a communist.

What Marvin fails to notice is that the obama's "Strongly DIS-approval" rating has doubled since 1/20.09 16% to 32%

I will tell you obama's "Strongly DIS-approval" rating will double again by May 1.

And what you may not know is that the "Strongly DIS-approval" rating is the preverbal squeaky wheel of politics.






Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 9:44 am



If you read the report you will see that the presidential approval index has gone down from +28 to +6 since 1/21/09

"Thirty-two percent (32%) now Strongly Disapprove of the President’s performance, the highest level of disapproval measured to date.....

These figures give Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +6, his lowest rating to date.

The Presidential Approval Index is calculated by subtracting the number who Strongly Disapprove from the number who Strongly Approve. It is updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern"


A drop from + 28 to +6 is very significant in anyone book, it is both rapid and profound.

If this happened to your stocks or to your credit rating you would be very concerned about the downward momentum.

This is significant objective evidence, the message of hope is turning into a message of fear.


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 9:57 am

And Sharon, Not in My Name and the others are enjoying every minute of it. Not sure that they care about the country, but they do want Obama to not succeed, regardless of the implications.
Still not sure what Sharon thinks about Obama, in some threads she is waiting for Obama to come down hard on Israel, in other threads she is bashing Obama. I think she just likes to stir the pot


Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:08 am

Marvin, I certainly want Obama to change his policies, as I have previously suggested. If he does not, then I want him to fail, becasue his current policies are very bad for this country. I do draw a line at the water's edge, namely that I will not criticize him about his involvement in foreign wars, where American forces are in action. The Bush haters actively undermined the war effort in Iraq, becasue they wanted a defeat for Bush. Those hatriots lost, and Bush won. You will not see me undermine a war effort by Obama, because I am not a hatriot.

Who will be the Dem canididate in 2012?


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:11 am

Gary--Bush is gone--get over it. there is a new definition of hatriot and you fit the bill to a "t".


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:31 am


I am somewhat neutral on Obama, until I see some record on which to base rational opinion, I did not drink the KoolAid as many others did.

In terms of the Middle East, I think Obama was wise to appoint a self described Arab American Senator, George Mitchell, as special envoy.

Mitchell successfully brokered a peace agreement in Northern Ireland which has held.

The situation/conflict in the Holy Land is very similar to that in N Ireland,that is-- a tribal/religious dispute involving acts of terror on both sides.

USA interests are best served by resolving this conflict in same way we did the one in N Ireland.

The past neocon biased approach was a disaster for our interests in the region and more broadly.

Obama and Mitchell have a fresh perspective and I wish them rapid success.


Other foreign policy acts have been less skillful.

For example-

I believe Obamas team was wrong in the way they treated Gordon Brown the UK PM, and it caused some very bad PR in the UK.

The UK has been a trusted ally of very long standing and has consistently furthered our interests across the globe.

On the home front,the decline in Obamas Presidential Approval Index is troubling, he needs to have the whole country behind him to pull us out of the economic mess, yet he is loosing support quickly.


Many people feel that Obama may be already in over his head , this is reflected in the poll.
He needs to pull out of this nosedive fast for every ones sake.


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:37 am

sharon, you say--"he needs to have the whole country behind him to pull us out of the economic mess"

You should pass this information on to the republicans in Congress and Limbaugh and his acolytes


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:43 am


Marvin--

We still have a Democracy with the tradition of " The loyal opposition"

It seems you would prefer dictatorship and apartheid for the US and the Holy Land respectively---- Dream on--


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 10:47 am

Sharon--you cannot have it both ways--you say the whole country needs to be behind Obama, but then you accuse me of preferring a dictatorship for the US when I suggest you contact those that only seem to be able to say "no".
As for your apartheid comments--we will not get into the discussion of Hamas terrorism at this point.
Your response reminds me of your hysterical "anti-mormon" claims on another thread. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 11:04 am



In a Democracy the oppositions job is to challenge and debate the majority initiatives to improve decision making and come up with a deal everyone or most people can support.

It is Obamas job to inspire and lead, if he had not made those statement about " bitter people who cling to their guns and religion"
the Rush would have very little support.

Hamas is just like the IRA was, Mitchell dealt with them, that is in part why he is a good choice to deal with the Holy Land conflict.

I have never made an anti Mormon comment in my life,
Mormons are a full part of the Christian Community and deserving of our full respect -- you have mistaken me for someone else.


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 11:29 am

I never said you made anti-mormon comments. I was referring to this post of yours in response to my questioning another posters comments that Mormons represent diversity and religious tolerance:

(Web Link

"Posted by Sharon, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Mar 4, 2009 at 7:37 am

The anti Mormon hate speech is pathetic. A Protocols of Zionism directed against Mormons. I never thought I would see such hate speech in Palo Alto.

The position of Catholics,Orthodox Christians , Lutherans, Baptists etc as well as Orthodox Jews and Mormons towards homosexuals is the same.

Hate the sin and love the sinner.

There are plenty of black Christian priests and ministers but no black rabbis.

If the Catholic Church got out of health care in the USA 1/3 of our hospitals would close.

Anti Christian slander has no place in this town"


You were ranting and raving about my comments regarding mormons and never responded when I pointed out that my claims were based on facts.
As i said before, you enjoy stirring the pot.


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 11:47 am

Marvin

If you want to rehash Prop 8 then please open another thread, it is a done deal, yesterdays news.

Palo Alto welcomes all faiths and those lacking faith, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, etc. all have places of worship here.

Obama has made some good moves in foreign policy, the latest is reaching out to Iran through Turkey and is reaching out to Syria directly. He has also floated a new approach to Russia.

The best strategy according, to Game Theory, is to first collaborate and from then on reciprocate.

Jaw,jaw, jaw is better than war, war, war at least as a first move.

On the home front Obama has not reached out successfully to the opposition.

He said he wanted to be President of the USA, not president of the democratic party

Lets see


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:09 pm

Sharon--you clearly did not read my posts in the other thread--it was not a rehash of Prop 8, but you were more interested in acting outraged and attacking other posters. You made statements, then refused to acknowledge facts I referred to regarding the mormons. My posts were regarding claims by others that mormons represent "diversity and religious tolerance".
Obama has done plenty to reach out to republicans--they are just the party of "no". They must feel that is the right strategy
Try reading everything and stop feeling the need to stir the pot at every turn


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:31 pm



More on Obamas dissing of UK PM Brown, from the UK Telegraph.

Apparently he tried to mend fences after wards but one of his aids made the situation much much worse

"Mr Obama rang Mr Brown as he flew home, in what many suspected was an attempt to make amends.

The real views of many in Obama administration were laid bare by a State Department official involved in planning the Brown visit, who reacted with fury when questioned by The Sunday Telegraph about why the event was so low-key.

The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship, saying:

"There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment."


That was not a smart move, does he still have his job?


I hope not


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:38 pm

Is the "dissing" of PM Brown by Obama the new cause celebre (in other words it is a non-existant issue that is being beaten to death ) by the hatriots?
Looks that way.
BTW, Sharon this thread is about Obama and the tele-prompter (another short lived cause-celebre). If you want to rehash the Brown visit start a new thread


Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:49 pm

"republicans--they are just the party of "no" "

Well, Marvin, someone has to say no to nonsense. The Republicans will change their tune, if BHO turns around 180 degrees, and cuts tax rates, especially capital gains and corporate rates. There are many other things, of course, but that would be a good start.

This country is falling into the abyss, and Obama owns it (after all, he was there at the start, as he muscled the banks to make subprime loans). He can no longer blame Bush. This is his baby, and it is getting a lot worse. He cannot spend his way out of it. He needs to make dramtic tax cuts, immediately.


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 12:54 pm

Whatever you say,Gary


Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 9, 2009 at 1:13 pm

I am willing to write Obama's speech for him. He can put it on his teleprompter and read it flawlessly. For example:

"My fellow citizens, when I campaigned to become your president, I told you that I would tell you the truth, even if painful, and adapt to the circumstances of the realities, once I got into office. I am doing this now. We are facing the worst financial, and economic, crisis since the Great Depression. I helped to bring on this crisis by pressuring banks to provide subprime loans. I am guilty, as charged. I hope you can appreciate my own turthfulness on this matter. There are many others to be blamed, but I cannot afford to dwell on that.

I told you that I would adjust to realities, and that is why I am now telling you that we need to reverse course. We cannot spend our way out of this crisis. We must stop punishing those people who create the ideas, take the economic and financial risks, create capital formation, manage our small businesses and large companies. I fell into this class warfare nonsense, myself, but I was wrong to do so. We need to encourage innovation and risk. I am, therefore, asking congress to immediately reduce captial gains and corporate tax rates. I am getting behind nuclear power in a big way. I will support efforts drill for oil in all U.S. controlled territory. There will be other initiatives that I will announce, within the next month. We must act now!"

As long as Obama uses his teleprompter, it should work.


Posted by OhlonePar
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Mar 9, 2009 at 1:24 pm

Gary,

This is idiotic. Obama uses a teleprompter. Other presidents used notes. Ronnie was fed stuff by his wife.

Ronald Reagan had Alzheimer's in the White House--no way that he didn't.

But you talk about empty suits.

The *obvious* reason Obama uses a Teleprompter is because people are hanging on every word he says and he doesn't need to make mistakes--he can't afford to pull a Joe Biden.

It has nothing to do with how he thinks or makes decisions. Plenty of brilliant people are not naturals at talking off the cuff in front of millions.

And, let's face it, you're dying for Obama to make a gaffe. You sure as hell aren't going to cut him slack. Petulant post after post from you, Perspective and Sharon.

Conservatives are so pathetic these day--Bush does he damnedest to destroy us as a country and all you can do is whine about how the Democrats haven't cleaned up the mess you made.

Guess what kiddies, you made a BIG mess.

When are Republicans going to grow up?


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:02 pm

Obama goes to Turkey soon with his Magic Lamp to meet with Erdogan the head of state of Turkey. What genies will emerge?
One view

"Most analysts expected Obama to adjust American foreign policy to the modesty of his circumstances, constrained by rising foreign debt and enervating entanglements.
Instead, Obama has entered the foreign policy area with a magic lamp in hand, namely America's bottomless capacity to borrow, and the whole of the world seems to him a Cave of Wonders - at least for the moment.
Does America want logical support for its withdrawal from Iraq, or mediation with Iran, or a back channel to Hamas, or anything else?

Obama's wish is Erdogan's command, as long as Erdogan can hold onto power.

Obama will run foreign policy precisely as he ran his presidential campaign,
by dismissing consistency as the hobgoblin of small minds as he promised diametrically opposed things to irreconcilable factions.

And the rest of the world will smile and nod and take American checks, at least for the moment, while there still are functioning governments to take American checks."Web Link


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:06 pm

Sharon--have you joined Gary and Perspective (if you are not them to begin with) to troll the internet for print you can use to bash Obama with. Ohlone Par hit the nail on the head above about you and your fellow Obama-bashers


Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:07 pm

OhlonePar,

I tried to make a good faith effort to turn it around for Obama. If he doesn't want to take my advice, it will be his (and your) bad.

Reagan's greatest accomplishments (e.g. winning the cold war) were due to his own thoughts and initiatives. He rejected containment, while even his own staff (and his wife, probably) supported it. Reagan supported indivual freedom for individual people, and he hammered down the confiscatory tax rates...not enough, but he made a good try. Obama is now reversing Reagan. Reagan was scripted, by others, on the minor little things, but he read his own script on the big things. Obama reads the scripts of his handlers on almost everything. He doesn't have a clue.

I would respect Obama more, if he would just tell us what he really thinks, gaffe or not. The problem is that he lacks core values. He can start by throwing that teleprompter away. It will be rough for a while, but he will begin to grow on his own.

During the campaign, Obama was highly praised for being a great and natural orator. Now that the truth comes out, you and others are making excuses for him. He is a scripted orator, and completely addicted to the telepromptor. If he was 100% white (instead of 50%), he would not be our current president. John Edwards was better qualified (other than the womanizing), with similar nonsense economic views, and articulate, but he was white...thus he was handicapped.

Barack Obama is in way over his head. If he would take my advice, he might be able to get his head above water. If he continues to play to you and yours, he will drown.


Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:20 pm


Last time we heard from OP it was claiming that most Southern Whites commit incest-- Very adult.

Now it claims magical medical powers to diagnose a President health retroactively.

Obama promised hope-- what we have is fear and panic that is spreading around the globe.
He certainly has charm and tele-prompter manufactured charisma.
Dealing with Turkey and the hornets nest in that region requires some thing much more than that and a gaggle of triple PhD wonks from Harvard.
Recent behaviors show that the the new administration is already in over its head.
That is of increasing concern to many Democrats. as well it should.


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:24 pm

Whatever you say, Gary.
The usual whining from you--Obama "lacks core values", Obama doesn't "have a clue". Obama is "way over his head". Now you inject the race card again. Get over it--Obama won not becasue of his skin color but because he was the better qualified candidate
Another in a long line of daily posts whining about Obama. Let's be honest, Gary, nothing Obama does will be considered good or right by you.


Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 9, 2009 at 2:29 pm

A couple of links regarding Obama and teleprompters:

Web Link

Web Link

Pretty clear now that Gary trolls the internet looking for right wing articles that bash Obama. He then posts them on this forum and goes at it.
the point is there is nothing wrong with using a teleprompter.


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