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U.S. Cites Big Gains Against Al-Qaeda

Original post made by Gary, Downtown North, on May 30, 2008

"Less than a year after his agency warned of new threats from a resurgent al-Qaeda, CIA Director Michael V. Hayden now portrays the terrorist movement as essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia and on the defensive throughout much of the rest of the world, including in its presumed haven along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border."

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I just thought I'd share the good news.

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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on May 30, 2008 at 12:39 pm

Would be good news if we could believe it, but only fools believe anything from this administration. Any idea when Hayden's kiss-n-tell book hits the stores?

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Posted by Jane
a resident of Professorville
on May 30, 2008 at 2:19 pm

On May 22, Petraeus was able to tell the Senate that "the number of security incidents in Iraq last week was the lowest in over four years, and it appears that the week that ends tomorrow will see an even lower number of incidents."

On May 10, Maliki traveled to Mosul to oversee the launch of a campaign against al Qaeda.

The number of attacks in Mosul has already been reduced by 85 percent. Acting CENTCOM commander Martin Dempsey says that Al Qaeda in Iraq is at its weakest state since 2003.

Also last week, Iraqi soldiers entered radical Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr's Sadr City stronghold in Baghdad.

They met no resistance.

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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on May 30, 2008 at 5:11 pm

"Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) believes that on September 11 "we were basically at peace." "

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Sometimes there are such stunningly inept statements by a politician. Well, John, we weren't at war on Dec. 7 1941...but on Dec. 8 we were. And your point is?

GWB has al qaeda on the run, and Barack wants to put a fool like Kerry in a high position in his administration. Obama shows a lack of judgement, in several areas. This is a big one.

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Posted by GI Joe
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 30, 2008 at 5:54 pm

We must defeat Osama, Obama, and Chelsea's Momma!


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Posted by A Boomer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 30, 2008 at 7:48 pm

There is a good article by Fareed Zhakaria, editor of Newsweek International, in this week's Newsweek Magazine. He discusses several studies conducted by reputable (typically not government affiliated) studies around this topic. Key points:

1. If you don't include places where the equivelant of a war is taking place (e.g, right now Iraq, a few years back, Congo) terrorism has been on the decline for several years

2. Support for terrorism, perhaps more precisely terrorist organizations, has been dropping in Muslim countries in the past 5 years, and only a small percentage of people support such groups

3. When countries in a state of war are included, the total number of civilians killed by terrorists goes up significantly, the implication being that they are casualties of the war conflict, rather than victims of terrorists attacks as occured on 9/11. Not good, but different motivations by those conducting the acts

4. The studies have different methodologies, no one is right or wrong, but it does get confusing since they are not the same

5. Reporting on terrorism is greatly elevated since 9/11, so even though the actual incidence of it outside of war theaters has been continuously dropping, there is a heightened level of fear and tension among the public in general due to increased awareness of those occurences that have taken place

My take is that it is generally good to learn that terrorism overall is declining, I don't think it can ever be entirely eliminated, but between various governments' efforts and public opinion in general less tolerant of those who foist terrorism upon innocent people, there are some encouraging results. While we must remain vigilant, we must also make sure our strategies and tactics are commensurate with the true threat, and neither under estimate nor over estimate what is needed to minimize the threats that exist.

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Posted by Karen
a resident of Southgate
on May 31, 2008 at 11:58 am

I have a nephew in Iraq, in the Marines. We exchagne emails, when it is possible. He tells me that that the news media in America doesn't have a clue. He says that Iraq is in much better shape than what has been reported.

This new view from the CIA is much more reflective of what my nephew has been telling me.

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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 1, 2008 at 8:03 am

Karen: You are so right. I had family in Iraq also..Baghdad nonetheless...and of course, our media gets it wrong, wrong wrong.

It is like doing nothing but report the murders in LA in order to say that all of the USA is in horrible shape.

If you want an absolutely fascinating, though now a little old, DVD, google and buy "Voices of Iraq", made now about 3 years ago. A bunch of videorecorders were handed out all over Iraq and people were asked to tape their lives and their discussions about Iraq etc. Pretty free form.

Another good way to get perspective on the "rest of the story", in addition to reading and listening to real military soldiers who have been stationed in Iraq.

Just knowing that the highest re-enlistment rate, ever, is from those who have been to Iraq tells you something. Most Americans usually volunteer for good, not bad.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 1, 2008 at 11:18 am

Karen, my Marine grandson is back after two tours in Iraq. Add the thanks of an old soldier in your next E-mail to your nephew. May God and congress both preserve him.

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Posted by The Perpetual Propaganda Machine
a resident of Green Acres
on Jun 1, 2008 at 9:19 pm

Let's see now, just how many times is it that we're heard the old "we've turned the corner" line in the many years since Heil Bush unveiled the "Mission Accomplished" banner?

It would be laughable if it weren't for the body bags coming back home each week.

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