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Hundreds evacuated as Summit fire grows

Original post made on May 22, 2008

An estimated 200 residents have been evacuated due to an aggressive fire that has burned 3,000 acres in the counties of Santa Cruz and Santa Clara today near Mount Madonna County Park, a Cal Fire battalion chief said.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, May 22, 2008, 2:15 PM

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Posted by Tim
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 22, 2008 at 11:46 am

Palo Alto Fire has sent one engine to the Santa Cruz fire.

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Posted by dunno
a resident of Charleston Meadows
on May 22, 2008 at 12:57 pm

the cause of the fire was supposedly dry brush.. atleast thats what abc 7 said.

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Posted by Jim
a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2008 at 1:40 pm

Dry brush does not spontaneousy combust. If the conditions are right, the spark will be provided by the crazies. If one builds a home in the wild, it will eventually be threatened by fire.

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Posted by Jane
a resident of another community
on May 22, 2008 at 2:28 pm

Everyone pray for the safe return on all the men and women fighting the fire.. Palo Alto Fire, be SAFE!

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Posted by fireman
a resident of another community
on May 22, 2008 at 2:50 pm

A Firefighters prayer;
Help me,Lord to be a good and dedicated firefighter.
Give me the strength to face the boredom as well as the fear.
Give me the wisdom to make quik decisions and compassionate choices.
Give me courage to bear the responsibilities and duties of doing my job well.

Be safe my brother and sister Firefighters, I can not be with you in body, however, my soul is there by your side. I got your back.

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Posted by ;
a resident of Palo Verde
on May 22, 2008 at 4:04 pm

and pray for all that nature burned up...

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on May 22, 2008 at 4:56 pm

Of course, a little bit of forestry management would have helped. Send the bill for this fire to the NGOs that fight every proposal to thin brush and break fire trails.

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Posted by ngo
a resident of another community
on May 22, 2008 at 5:11 pm

I just love how people blame the NGO's for fires in an area that has evolved with fire. These areas, for that matter, a good portion of California are historically fire prone. IE...every 40 to 50 years, more or less, fires will sweep through areas. It is natural and no one is to blame. It's not global climate change or some wacky theory from the right or left ideology. Its nature doing what it does. There really isn't blame to be placed for this. Fires occur naturally. Whether they are started by humans or not, they are a natural part of the ecosystem. The are numerous reasons fires start. Lightening strikes are one reason. Human caused is another reason. Humans, aka homo sapians are part of nature. We're animals who have evolved with nature. People want to throw out their political rhetoric, but fact is, fires start because of the proper conditions, whether its a lawn mower striking a rock and causing a spark, a problem with a power line, a cigarette or lightening strike.

Chill on the political rhetoric. Fires and the suppression of them is a lot more complicated than most realize.

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Posted by T
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 22, 2008 at 7:37 pm

Walter, your callous remark is not appreciated. It is not accurate either.

Much of the land that is burning is either privately owned, or it is the Soquel Demonstration Forest or it is the Forest of Nisene Marks. The primary purpose of the Soquel Demo Forest is to test out and practice various techniques of responsible logging, so there is no issue with thinning brush, breaking fire trails, and frequent logging in that area. Most residents up there have no problem with the concept of thinning brushs or breaking fire trails. However, the cost or effort to do so would be unmanageable for anyone with a reasonable amount of acreage. I cannot comment on the management practices of Nisene Marks since I am not well-acquainted with them. But, at a minimum, I know that Nisene Marks is reasonably well maintained and it has an extensive trail/road system throughout, which will be helpful for firebuilding.

The natural terrain in the burn area is quite steep and rugged. It is a very challenging environment for firefighting as well as forestry management.

I, too, want to express my appreciation for the firefighters and other associated personnel who are working so hard right now to protect homes and lives. Two of them (both volunteer firefighters) live on my property up there.

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Posted by T
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 22, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Oops, I meant firefighting, not firebuilding.

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Posted by Kirk
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 22, 2008 at 7:49 pm

Walter Wallis is, essentially, correct. The prohibitions against logging, in order to provide near-pristine living environments for those privileged few who live in the forest, prevents the necessary thinning to prevent fuel buildup. It is similar to those who live along San Fransciquito Creek, beacasue they, too, like their creek bed to become overgrown with natural cover...until there is a flood, caused by the same cover. Then they bitch like hell about not being protected.

It's just the upper classes complaining becasue they can't have it all.

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Posted by RS
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 22, 2008 at 8:41 pm


That area is logged.
The people that live in the area impacted are mostly of modest means.
Santa Cruz county allows controlled burns by residents between Dec 1st and March 31st to eliminate excess vegetation and the residents take advantage of it.

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Posted by Another Observer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 22, 2008 at 11:04 pm

I don't know what NGO is, but ngo is a strange person or a strange response to fires. Does he think cities shouldn't have firepersons or fire department or fire stations? If cities burn it is natural? Was the after the 06 earthquake good,or natural and is ok?

If someone sets a fire in the forest there is no one to blame? Is that true in the city also?

I have heard the so called enviromentalists love to see the forests burn. "It's natural".

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Posted by ngo
a resident of another community
on May 23, 2008 at 1:54 am

uh duh...non governmental organization

nice unedumacated discusssion; gee anyone got dame brainage

do the thinning, just don't disguise a commercial cut where money is the top priority, with what a thinning project is. they are not the same objectives for dealing with land issues. can both be done, sure. the logging industry created the rhetoric to line their pocket books. in the process the timber industry flunkies created a bunch of political rhetoric nonsense.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on May 23, 2008 at 5:51 am

Ah, yes, NGO. God forfend that any forest activity sustain itself by sales of byproducts. Far better to let it burn or rot than be converted into construction material, chemical feedstock or biofuel. The anti-capitalist core of many of the so-called environmental organizations comes to the fore with their tortured rationalization for opposition to the wise use of natural resources. Their avarisciousness is demonstrated by their reliance on intervener funding.

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