Time Warner Inc.-owned Cable News Network Web site experienced problems that prevented users from accessing the site -- what appeared to be a "denial of service" attack instigated by hackers. Users trying to access CNN.com were unable to do so at least temporarily in certain Asian markets, including Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong and mainland China.

Scott Henderson, the Kansas-based author of "Dark Visitor," a book on Chinese hackers, says he first noticed discussion of a CNN attack on hackbase.com, one of the largest Chinese hacker Web sites, on Wednesday. "They were calling for everyone to get together to coordinate using large numbers of compromised computers to attack CNN," he says.Web Link

Olbermann supported Cafferty last night

He agreed that the government was still the "same old goons". The government, not the people.

I am getting rather worried about China. Is it just me?

China Stocks, Once Frothy, Fall by Half In Six Months.

he sharp decline in Chinese stocks is approaching a milestone: With a 4% drop Friday, the market has fallen by nearly half since its peak last fall.

The decline has wiped out nearly $2.5 trillion of wealth and is testing the government's apparent resolve to let the market find equilibrium on its own.

The plunge has slashed the savings of millions of Chinese investors who jumped into the market as it rose six-fold in two years.

It is crimping expansion in the country's nascent financial sector and may put a squeeze in corporate coffers.

when are the protests going to happen in hollywood when 1/2 of the USA is accused of reacting in fear to Iraq and the supposedly horrible economy by becoming racist, gun-totin' church goers?

oh, I forgot...Hollywood only supports Communists.

Fresh protests broke out across China on Sunday in reaction to the Western media's coverage of China's handling of Tibet ahead of the Beijing Olympics,

Beijing has been seen as inciting anti-Western sentiment leading up to Saturday's protests where demonstrators showed support for China's control of Tibet in cities including Beijing, Qingdao, Wuhan, Hefei, Kunming and Xian.

Several thousand Chinese also rallied Saturday in Paris, Britain, Berlin and Los Angeles in support of their country and against allegedly biased media coverage of the Olympic torch relay and unrest in Tibet.

Exiled Tibetan leaders say more than 150 people have died in the government crackdown. China says Tibetan "rioters" have killed 18 civilians and two policemen.

China has since sanctioned angry anti-Western rhetoric in state-controlled media in response to protests that marred the Olympic torch relay in London, Paris and San Francisco this month.

Americans hate the Arabs, fear the Russians, and now its the Chinese. It's America against the world. Best get our guns and kill em all.

Nepal has given its security personnel permission to shoot pro-Tibet demonstrators during China's Olympic flame climb to Mount Everest's summit early next month.

"About 25 soldiers and policemen have established camps on the mountain and they have been ordered to use force if necessary to stop any anti-Chinese activities," Mod Raj Dotel, spokesman for the home ministry, said Sunday. "This could mean shooting if necessary."

Security personnel will also check mountain climbers for non-essential expedition materials, Dotel added.

"If anyone is found with anti-Chinese material their permit will be canceled and returned from the mountain," he said. Web Link

Well, all this anti-China sentiment is really causing a raucus. 5,000 protest CNN's Cafferty's comments in Hollywood. Web Link Now we have a bunch a news articles, including the New York Times showing more concern about Chinese spies. Pretty soon we'll have gulags for Chinese-Americans and increased racism against Asians, no-doubt. This is how it all starts.

If the Bush adminstration had done its job inspecting the goods we Americans ask the Chinese to make for us at dirt cheap prices, if Americans would consume less, if Americans didn't need to live like hogs off the Earth, maybe we wouldn't be in this situation. Hello America, wake up, we're the ones that made the Chinese rich. And now they want power because they don't want to be second-class world citizens. Would you?

America - still trying to be king.

Amazing... Somebody at CNN- other than Lou Dobbs- is willing to speak the truth about China. Goons and Thugs is exactly right. The people of China have no say in their own governance, and they have no civil rights either.

That monstrosity of a government rules by fear and by force- over both the Chinese people, and the free peoples it has conquered wrongfully- IE Tibet as well a groups like Falun and Christians. They slaughter their own citizens with tanks and guns when they dare to stand up to their own government.

mary, I guess you didn't go to Stanford's China-U.S. relations panel. Still stuck in the dark, living with your lights off.

Oh, and I forgot to mention Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib. Now that's torture - American style. Thumbs up to America. Web Link

Here is Chinese anti Tibet, anti west and anti CNN website Web Link


Something strange is happening in China

When you look at the demographics 50% of the land mass population feels they are occupied by a foreign power

Personally, I am looking forward to China totally blowing all of its authoritarian gaskets during the Olympics, when you just know there will be street protests both here and there, winning athletes demanding freedom of speech and giving power salutes, and lots of tourists trying to escape from their communist minders to see what's behind the Chinese version of a Potemkin village.

Undoubtedly the Chinese will threaten the whole world with economic retaliation and will demand apologies from everyone, but really -- we're *so* busy dealing with Arab oil prices and apologizing to Muslims on an hourly basis, how will we ever find the time to apologize sufficiently to the touchy Chineses, too?

BTW, I was shocked during the torch run in SF that so many pro-Chinese wannabe-Americans turned out to support China. That sort of freedom of expression needs to come to a screeching halt RIGHT NOW, or we won't love them any more. see Web Link

too bad for all the Americans married to Chinese...including our secretary of labor Elaine Chao!!! whoops, Chinese in our own government too.

a, thats very interesting observation, why do so many Chinese women marry Anglo men ?

Paul, I guess you better find a way to make your own underwear, socks, toys, pet food, and clothes.

sue,
Why do so many anglo men marry Chinese women? If you can answer this, you'll have your answer.

Well the pet food from China was deliberately poisoned, the medicines deliberately contaminated, The toys are poisoned with lead and cadium.

33% of the mercury pollution in the Bay Area comes from China which opens a new grossly polluting coal fired power station every week

So I guess I am not surprised that TRADER JOE will not sell produce from China anymore because it is so contaminated.

Buy at TRADER JOES

The protests and mutual recriminations between China and its foreign critics -- highlighted by more anti-Western demonstrations this weekend -- are exposing a stark disconnect between how China views itself and how many people abroad view China.

Misunderstandings have multiplied as the opposing sides seem to consistently talk past each other. Foreign critics are focusing on issues, such as Beijing's policies in Tibet, that many Chinese feel ignore decades of broader economic and social progress in their country.

Condemnation of Chinese government policies is being received in China as attacking the nation as a whole, arousing widespread public violent demonstrations .

Xenophobics R US

As the Tibetan and Falun Gong protests surrounding the global trail of the Olympic torch pick up intensity, Europe has already begun to pick sides.
Haunted by the Berlin Olympics of 1936, universally regarded as Europe's dress rehearsal for the disastrous policy of appeasement, it is no coincidence that the two populations that bore the immediate brunt of the Nazi war machine, Poland and the Czech Republic, were the first to pull out of Beijing's political opening ceremony.
Germany's chancellor, Angela Merkel, recently announced that she will not attend either.
Nicolas Sarkozy has publicly threatened to do the same and possibly to carry the European Union along with him.Web Link

>>> re>>a, thats very interesting observation, why do so many Chinese women marry Anglo men ?>>>>>

Evolutionary psychologists will remind us that there's a long line of writing about "female choosiness" going back to Darwin and the male peacocks competing to get noticed by "choosy" mates with their splendid plumage.
But you don't have to buy that kind of reductive biological explanation to see the force of the "women choose" model.
You only have to accept that for whatever socially constructed reason, the choice of getting married is one in which the woman is usually the key player.
It might be the man who's supposed to ask the official, down-on-the-knee question, but it usually comes after a woman has made the central decision.

The source of the annual flu epidemic has long been a mystery. Now the biggest analysis of flu strains ever has shown it comes from eastern and southeast Asia, a product of the connectedness of people and the patchiness of the region's rainy seasons.
The flu virus mutated in the rice paddies of south east Asia where the body fluids of man, pigs and migratory waterfowl coexist. In summer the birds congregate in the arctic and mix with birds from other parts of the world. In winter the birds carry the new strain to the other parts of the world.
If the Asian bird flu ever began to spread in Asia, probably the only safe thing to do would be to stop visitors from entering the US from anywhere until a cure was found. This, of course, would be politically incorrect and would not be done, the result being thousands of Americans dying for the politically correct movement.

Remember when American soldiers were dying fighting Communists in various wars? Remember when it was always called "Communist China"? Ah, that was before the era of globalization and outsourcing and "free trade", brought to us by the neo-cons. Now we make almost nothing in this country and are in hock to foreign countries, China being chief among them. Was it the consumers and citizens who demanded this change? No, it was not. It was forced upon us and sold with pie-in-the-sky propaganda by the corporate media. Both the people of China and the people of the U.S. are being victimized in various ways by this "new world order" and by their respective governments and business leaders. And ain't it fun, folks?

Although in solidarity with the Tibetans, I've been neutral on boycotting the Olympics, until I saw this piece, this morning
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Now, I want the entire world to boycott the Olympics, and will do everything I can to support that cause. The Chinese government has gone too far, and needs to be shown that it cannot act with this kind of blatant impunity.

Here's more about the effort to stop this egregious outrage by the Chinese government, and the Zimbabwe thug, Mugabe.
Web Link

and, another piece on the folly that the Chinese government is foisting on the world. I feel so sorry for the Chinese people, having to tolerate the abuses leveled at them by a government that eats, drinks, and sleeps raw power - at any cost.

Web Link

The description of "a government that eats, drinks, and sleeps raw power - at any cost" can as easily be applied to the USA, most especially during the past 8 years, as to China. As my grandmother used to say, "sweep your own doorstep first before trying to clean your neighbor's doorstep".

Excuse me, but I am a lot more concerned about the loss of civil liberties, the stifling of dissent and political prosecutions in our country than in China. The USA has surrendered all right to complain about how other countries treat people. The whole world knows that we are not only torturers but that the details of how to do it were regularly discussed at the White House by those at the highest level of government. The whole world knows that we attacked, and continue to occupy, other sovereign nations based on proven lies. We have no moral authority any more.

There has always been the inherent unfairness of pitting countries whose athletes are pampered and totally supported and subsidized by their governments, against those who do not enjoy that kind of support.

As unpopular as the idea will be to many, I'd like to see the Olympics discontinued, period. It has become nothing but a huge PR and marketing effort, steeped in political posturing. It's all about being able to put the Olympic logo on your product. "Buy our junk food, it's the official junk food of the Olympic athletes!" The Olympic games are responsible for a huge amount of wasted resources. The host country builds giant facilities. What happens to them after the games are over, I wonder.

Flying the torch around the world, in its own witness protection program, with its own hotel room and security, is about the most stupid thing I've ever seen...a practice that should be abolished even if the Olympic games continue. It's sickening the way the Olympics is treated almost like a religion by many people.

It's also little know that the Olympic Torch was an idea inspired and created by none other than Joseph Goebbels.

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That said, I agree that America needs to clean up its own act, but that doesn't preclude America (and other nations) taking positive action. I hope you're not serious about America "surrendering its right to complain about civil liberties".

Americans, like Chinese are mostly good human beings who are more-than-occasionally made victims of other own government's actions.

"Surrendering one's right" to take positive action toward change doesn't belong in the American lexicon.

Doesn't losing our moral authority amount to the same thing as surrendering our right to criticize how other countries treat their people? How can our criticism be taken seriously when we are so compromised by things our own government is doing? Doesn't that make us hypocrits? Wouldn't it be another case of "do as I say, not as I do"? This is how it seems to me and it is a very unfortunate situation that we should never have permitted to happen. Supposedly we have more control over our own government than those of other countries. But we haven't been able or willing to correct the criminal actions of our own government. So how can we possibly correct similar actions by other governments? I guess there's no harm in trying, as long as you don't mind being called a hypocrit.

"Doesn't losing our moral authority amount to the same thing as surrendering our right to criticize how other countries treat their people?"

No. Do two wrongs make a right? If everyone thought like that, change would never happen. And please, stop confusing an *occasionally* screwed up government in the US with the thugs who run the government in China. In terms of sheer insensitivity to the human condition, there's no comparison - in fact, there's a world of difference between the two. (again, we're talking about governments, not the people who populate these countries)

Mike, you're a pathetic, ignorant brain dead idiot. The US government has screwed up more often than most major countries. You're just too stupid to realize it. The Korean War, The Vietnam War, ... and the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

The US has had a far more atrocious human rights record than China -- slavery (not abolished until only a few decades ago), massacre of native American Indians (well over 95% of them killed) ... At least the Tibetans have their own land, their own way of living and still speak their own language. How are those poor native Americans doing? They've been rounded up in small reservations ... no money, no power, no say ... they've even lost their own language and culture. Perhaps China should start organizing an international coalition to invade the U.S. over the brutal treatment of blacks and native Americans.

Get a clue, Mike the Brain Dead.

When it comes to human rights, the U.S. is far worse.

Did you know that America is NOT even a democracy? LOL

claire, Have you applied for Chinese residency yet?

claire
should immediately register as an agent of an alien government

All of you folks are hypocrites tryiing to boycott the Olympics. You tout outrage at the Chinese government on the outside, but inside your homes all of your products you buy and continue to buy are Chinese made. Put your money where your mouth is and stop buying goods Made in China, Made in Indonesia, Made in Taiwan, Made in Japan, Made in India, Made in Phillipines.
Please, if you really wanted to make a difference stop whinning about China, and start putting your money where your mouth is.