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News - May 3, 2019

At last, plans to replace two north Palo Alto bridges

To boost flood control, city eyes long-awaited reconstruction of Pope-Chaucer and Newell Road bridges

by Gennady Sheyner

Two plans aimed at keeping the San Francisquito Creek within its banks are finally emerging more than 20 years after a massive storm swelled the creek until it rose higher than the Pope-Chaucer Bridge, sending water rushing down streets and into homes.

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16 people like this
Posted by So....
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 1, 2019 at 10:04 am

see you in 2025 to talk about it more? Adorable.
You keep being you Palo Alto.


13 people like this
Posted by Protect people
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 1, 2019 at 11:06 am

This is a golden opportunity to have a design contest.


14 people like this
Posted by CrescentParkAnon.
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 1, 2019 at 11:16 am

Oh by, a sarcasm contest!

And not a century too soon.


10 people like this
Posted by Newell Bridge
a resident of Evergreen Park
on May 1, 2019 at 11:56 am

Newell Bridge is a registered user.

Since I don't live in the neighborhood I have no knowledge of traffic patterns in that area. For local residents, what is the rationale for building a new Newell Bridge? Given the expense of rebuilding the Chaucer Bridge, why not remove the Newell Bridge and either not replace it at all or build a bike/pedestrian only bridge?


7 people like this
Posted by LKA
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 1, 2019 at 12:13 pm

LKA is a registered user.

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13 people like this
Posted by Chip
a resident of Professorville
on May 1, 2019 at 12:32 pm

The Newell bridge is narrow & very dangerous. Try making a left turn from the bridge to get to University & 101. The many speeders on Woodland in both directions create a big hazard. It's also tight when 2 cars in opposite directions are on the bridge at the same time.
Please fix it without spending $$$$$$ on "consulting" fees.


3 people like this
Posted by M&M
a resident of East Palo Alto
on May 1, 2019 at 1:14 pm

Newell Bridge isn't dangerous. It forces people to go slow on approach, over the bridge and while leaving the bridge. It's a crucial component of transportation in the area, so it's vital that it's replaced with the best design possible.

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7 people like this
Posted by Newell Bridge
a resident of Evergreen Park
on May 1, 2019 at 1:36 pm

Newell Bridge is a registered user.

"It's a crucial component of transportation in the area"

If a bridge is necessary in that location, perhaps it makes more sense for East Palo Alto to fund its replacement. Given its location it appears (from the map) to exist to primarily serve a small pocket of residents who live between Woodland and Bayshore.


5 people like this
Posted by Chip
a resident of Professorville
on May 1, 2019 at 1:38 pm

@ M&M - You think the Newell bridge isn't dangerous? I do go very slowly but th Woodland Ave drivers don't, which puts me in danger. Widen the bridge. It's an important part of the access route to 101 for residents of Crescent Park, Duveneck, &
St. Francis areas.


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Posted by M&M
a resident of East Palo Alto
on May 1, 2019 at 1:46 pm

No, Chip, it's not dangerous. It can also be redesigned to optimize safety. Continuing to pretend that only Woodland drivers cause you problems is your myth. I'm looking forward to a newly designed bridge.


2 people like this
Posted by M&M
a resident of East Palo Alto
on May 1, 2019 at 1:57 pm

Newell Bridge - I suggest you read the article. But please don't stop there. If you want to discuss the creek bridges you should get up to date with relevant info so that you're not wasting your time commenting without adequate facts.


10 people like this
Posted by revdreileen
a resident of East Palo Alto
on May 1, 2019 at 2:27 pm

revdreileen is a registered user.

The Newell bridge is a necessary transportation outlet for our neighborhood and is also used by many Palo Altans. An improved Newell bridge will be a benefit for flood control for both sides of the creek and will also be safer for all who depend upon it.


4 people like this
Posted by Newell Bridge
a resident of Evergreen Park
on May 1, 2019 at 3:26 pm

Newell Bridge is a registered user.

I am interested to learn that so many people use Newell Bridge and Woodland as the most convenient rat run to connect to and from 101.


10 people like this
Posted by KK
a resident of Stanford
on May 1, 2019 at 9:42 pm

It takes 20 years to figure out a plan... maybe another 10+ years to really fix it? It takes less than 1 year in other countries to fix two bridges.


21 people like this
Posted by Crescent Park Mom
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 2, 2019 at 12:30 am

Crescent Park Mom is a registered user.

Newell Rd is the Palo Alto Safe Routes to School route our kids use to bike to school (Duveneck, Greene (aka Jordan), Paly, Casti, St Elizabeth Seton). Widening the bridge will allow cars to drive faster over the bridge and continue that speed or faster down Newell. It will also encourage significantly MORE cars to drive down Newell to get to/from the freeway to downtown and El Camino Real. Cars regularly drive down Newell at dangerous speeds now and many run the stop signs. This get worse every month. (Grab a lawn chair and sit at Newell/Edgewood or Newell/Hamilton and see for yourself!) You see the same type of driving behavior down Hamilton and Edgewood as well. Increasing the bridge width, would be a mistake and will change our neighborhood.


9 people like this
Posted by A resident
a resident of Mayfield
on May 2, 2019 at 12:59 pm

Removing the Newell Bridge is the dream of the Crescent Park residents; break the connection to EPA. If you live near the Newell Bridge in the tony down of Palo Alto, many of the residents of EPA park their cars for blocks. If I were a resident of Crescent Park, I guess I wouldn 't be happy if every night both sides of the street in front of my house were packed with cars.


11 people like this
Posted by Newell Bridge Facts
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 2, 2019 at 4:33 pm

Newell Bridge Facts is a registered user.

The Newell bridge is half owned by Palo Alto and half by East Palo Alto so neither can decide what to do with it unilaterally. Thus, the option to completely remove the bridge is not something East Palo Alto will agree to. Caltrains will pay to upgrade the bridge since it is 100 years old and not close to present day safety standards. The Chaucer Street bridge cannot be replaced until the Newell Street bridge is replaced. The Stanford upstream retention is to small to prevent further flooding, although a good add-on to the replacement of these two bridges. Without the replacement of these two bridges and the increase in global warming, it is likely that Palo Alto will eventually experience another flood similar to the 1998 flood, which seriously damaged 400 homes in Cresent, Duveneck & St. Francis neighborhoods. There are however, different options and configurations for the bridge that can at least partially address concerns about the speed and volume of traffic coming into Palo Alto.


3 people like this
Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 2, 2019 at 10:14 pm

Posted by Crescent Park Mom, a resident of Crescent Park

>> Cars regularly drive down Newell at dangerous speeds now and many run the stop signs. This get worse every month. (Grab a lawn chair and sit at Newell/Edgewood or Newell/Hamilton and see for yourself!) You see the same type of driving behavior down Hamilton and Edgewood as well.

It is everywhere, all over the city. Everywhere, that is, except where (rush hour) traffic jams have slowed traffic down to jogging speed (6 MPH).

How many traffic enforcement police are there now? There just isn't enough enforcement to concern the average reckless driver.


4 people like this
Posted by Traffic Enforcement Officers
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 3, 2019 at 10:32 am

There are now 3 traffic enforcement officers (up from zero) thanks to the new police chief, who has made traffic enforcement a priority


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