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If Newsom is recalled, how would a Republican governor get anything done?

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Republicans running to replace Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom in the recall election have talked about making some big changes in California: Cut taxes. Give parents vouchers for private schools. Roll back some landmark environmental laws.

But while the governor's office comes with a lot of power, it does not include a magic wand.

To make many significant policy changes, a governor must work with the Legislature to pass new laws, approve a budget and appoint key leaders to state agencies. And in California, Democrats have a complete lock on the Legislature — holding such a huge supermajority in both chambers that they have more than enough votes to override a governor's veto, or to pass their own budgets.

So if the Sept. 14 recall is successful and a Republican is sworn in as governor of this deep-blue state — a once far-fetched notion that polls now show is within the realm of possibility — what would change at the state Capitol come late October?

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The one-party control Democrats have enjoyed for the last decade would give way to a divided government. That could spur bipartisan compromises — or partisan gridlock. Most significantly, it could make historically rare power plays a lot more common:

The Legislature could override vetoes to turn its bills into law and still set policy in a wide range of areas. And the governor could try to do the same or push back through executive orders and emergency declarations.

"If the Democrats coordinate and present a united front, and defy political norms that have historically been in place, they could resist a lot of what the governor wanted to do," said Kim Nalder, a political science professor at California State University, Sacramento.

"But there is that issue of emergency powers. And potentially a governor, if they wanted to be contentious and implement some sweeping changes, they could claim those emergency powers."

How far can a governor take emergency powers?

Republicans have criticized Newsom's use of emergency power during the coronavirus pandemic, saying he's exerted too much control without the usual checks and balances. As the pandemic sidelined normal work in the Legislature last year, Newsom issued as many executive orders in 2020 as his predecessor did in eight years.

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Assemblymember Kevin Kiley — a Rocklin Republican now running in the recall election — sued Newsom to try to limit his emergency power, but ultimately lost in court. With that ruling that a governor has broad authority to change or rescind laws during an emergency, GOP candidates are now talking about how they'd use such power themselves.

"I would not use executive authority to create new laws and new policies, as this governor has," Kiley said in an interview with CalMatters. "But I would use it to unwind things that never should've been there to begin with."

Kiley said he would end Newsom's pandemic emergency declaration, which would set the stage for reversing related public health rules, such as the requirement that children wear masks at school and that state employees and health care workers get vaccinated against COVID-19 (or be subject to routine testing). Other GOP candidates also pledge to reverse Newsom's mask and vax orders.

But the major Republican recall candidates are talking about using emergency powers for a lot more than the pandemic.

Kevin Faulconer, the Republican former mayor of San Diego, said he would declare an emergency over wildfires to speed up prevention efforts to clear trees and brush.

Republican talk radio host Larry Elder said he'd declare emergencies over homelessness, drought and schools and use the power to change environmental and education rules.

"I have a lot more power than I thought I did, even dealing with a hostile Legislature," Elder said in an interview with CalMatters.

Of course, using emergency power to address longstanding issues would almost certainly get tested in court. A plaintiff could argue that an ongoing and predictable problem is not a proper use of a governor's emergency orders. But under the Emergency Services Act, the governor's powers are intended to be very broad, and courts have been lenient in defining emergency power, said David A. Carrillo, executive director of UC Berkeley Law's California Constitution Center.

"That's a potentially dangerous combination," he said.

Conceivably, Democrats could try to prevent a new governor from using emergency power by revoking the Emergency Services Act some time between the Sept. 14 election and a new governor being sworn in, Carrillo said. Hypothetically, if Newsom loses the recall, he could call an emergency session of the Legislature and lawmakers could vote to repeal the law, or put it on hold until after the 2022 gubernatorial election.

"A power move like that would hobble a new governor's emergency powers," Carrillo said.

'I have a lot more power than I thought I did, even dealing with a hostile Legislature.'

-Larry Elder, Republican recall candidate

Beyond emergencies, Elder said he would reverse executive orders Newsom has issued on environmental issues, such as a ban on oil fracking and phasing out the sale of gas-powered cars.

"They'll be repealed," Elder said. "I believe that we ought to be encouraging fracking, not discouraging fracking. It can be done safely."

But Elder said he would not only govern by executive power and said he believes he can also find ways to work with the Legislature — a conclusion he said he was surprised to reach after consulting with former Gov. Pete Wilson, a Republican who worked with a Democratic-controlled Legislature in the 1990s.

"One of the reasons I initially did not want to run is because of the supermajority Democrat Legislature we have in Sacramento and my assumption that whenever I vetoed something, it would be readily overridden," Elder said.

"Much to my surprise, a bill has not been overridden since I think the early 1980s."

Political dynamics are different now

It's true that overriding a veto is rare. Lawmakers have only used that power a handful of times in the last 50 years, according to the state Senate Office of Research.

But political dynamics at the Capitol are substantially different now than they were in previous eras, when state government was politically divided. That makes use of the override more likely.

'The fundamental rules have changed — because of the supermajority the Democrats have, and the majority-vote budget rule.'

-Bill Lockyer, former state Senate leader

In both the Assembly and state Senate, Democrats now hold more than the two-thirds majorities needed to override a veto, if moderates and progressives stay united. During the terms of the last two Republican governors — Wilson, from 1991 to 1999, and Arnold Schwarznegger, who won the 2003 recall and served until 2011 — Democrats did not have a supermajority.

And the rules for passing a budget have changed significantly since then, too. It only takes a simple majority to pass the budget now; not the two-thirds vote that forced bipartisanship (and lots of partisan gridlock) until voters changed the law in 2010.

"The fundamental rules have changed — because of the supermajority the Democrats have, and the majority-vote budget rule — that have made the situation really different," said Bill Lockyer, who was the Democratic leader of the state Senate during much of Wilson's time as governor.

"There'll be lots of pressure to do overrides."

One thing that won't be different? The Democratic Senate's ability to block appointments by a Republican governor. Though a governor has authority to appoint members of the state Board of Education, California Air Resources Board and other powerful bodies, and to fill thousands of positions throughout state government, the most significant appointments that play a role in shaping policy must be approved by the state Senate.

"There were numerous examples of where we refused to confirm a gubernatorial appointment, and that's highly likely to occur with the (recall candidates) we see on the Republican side," Lockyer said.

Another thing that won't change: Governors don't need any input from the Legislature to appoint judges. Newsom alluded to how drastically a new Republican governor could shape California courts in a recent Zoom call with supporters: "I think about my kids and their future, the damage that a Republican can do (with) judicial appointments unfettered by the Legislature."

The governor also has the power to fill vacant statewide offices without the Legislature's approval. Newsom used that authority to shape Democratic politics in California following the 2020 election, appointing Alex Padilla as the state's first Latino senator when Kamala Harris became vice president, and then choosing Shirley Weber as California's first Black secretary of state and Rob Bonta as first Filipino American attorney general.

There's already plenty of political speculation of what might happen if U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who is 88, retires before her term ends.

And under the state constitution, the governor has the power to grant pardons and commutations for convicted criminals and to review parole decisions. For example, Newsom — or whoever is governor later this year — will get the final say on whether Sirhan Sirhan, who assassinated Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, will be released from prison.

Would Democrats see a need to cooperate?

Republican businessman John Cox said that if elected, he would try to avoid using executive action and instead find ways to work with the Legislature to address problems with housing, homelessness, water and electricity.

"I'm going to propose a package of reforms on all of these issues. And I'll certainly sit down with legislators and try to fashion a majority that will want to deal with these and get the problems fixed," Cox told CalMatters.

If that doesn't work, he said he'll recruit candidates to challenge lawmakers in their re-election campaigns.

But if a Republican is elected in the recall, it would be just a year before voters pick a governor again. And it will likely be with far less than a majority of votes — hardly what Democratic legislators would view as a mandate.

That's because of the strange rules for a recall (which a federal judge affirmed on Aug. 27 are constitutional): Newsom will be ousted if a simple majority of voters say "yes" on the first question on the ballot. The person who replaces him will be whoever gets the most votes on the second question, even if it's less than a majority. So far, no candidate has polled higher than 27%.

It was different in the 2003 recall, when 55% of voters ousted then-Gov. Gray Davis and 49% voted to replace him with Schwarzenegger.

"The mandate by voters at the time was, they wanted change," said Fabian Nunez, a Democrat who led the Assembly during Schwarzenegger's first term.

"When you look at the crowd of people that are running in this recall, there's nobody that even comes close to that."

Nunez and Schwarzenegger locked horns many times at the start of that governorship. The new governor famously called the Legislature a bunch of "girlie men" as he pressured them to pass a budget.

But he wound up abandoning some of his most conservative proposals, including on spending and teacher tenure, after they were rejected by voters. Eventually, Schwarzenegger and Nunez learned to cooperate, and even became friends.

"I never once tactically thought, 'OK we have to moderate our stance now that we have a Republican governor.' But I did think that we had to figure out a way to work with him if we wanted to get things done," Nunez said.

He pointed out, though, that Democrats didn't have a supermajority back then. They couldn't override a governor's veto or pass a budget without Republican votes:

"They were very different times than now."

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If Newsom is recalled, how would a Republican governor get anything done?

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Republicans running to replace Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom in the recall election have talked about making some big changes in California: Cut taxes. Give parents vouchers for private schools. Roll back some landmark environmental laws.

But while the governor's office comes with a lot of power, it does not include a magic wand.

To make many significant policy changes, a governor must work with the Legislature to pass new laws, approve a budget and appoint key leaders to state agencies. And in California, Democrats have a complete lock on the Legislature — holding such a huge supermajority in both chambers that they have more than enough votes to override a governor's veto, or to pass their own budgets.

So if the Sept. 14 recall is successful and a Republican is sworn in as governor of this deep-blue state — a once far-fetched notion that polls now show is within the realm of possibility — what would change at the state Capitol come late October?

The one-party control Democrats have enjoyed for the last decade would give way to a divided government. That could spur bipartisan compromises — or partisan gridlock. Most significantly, it could make historically rare power plays a lot more common:

The Legislature could override vetoes to turn its bills into law and still set policy in a wide range of areas. And the governor could try to do the same or push back through executive orders and emergency declarations.

"If the Democrats coordinate and present a united front, and defy political norms that have historically been in place, they could resist a lot of what the governor wanted to do," said Kim Nalder, a political science professor at California State University, Sacramento.

"But there is that issue of emergency powers. And potentially a governor, if they wanted to be contentious and implement some sweeping changes, they could claim those emergency powers."

Republicans have criticized Newsom's use of emergency power during the coronavirus pandemic, saying he's exerted too much control without the usual checks and balances. As the pandemic sidelined normal work in the Legislature last year, Newsom issued as many executive orders in 2020 as his predecessor did in eight years.

Assemblymember Kevin Kiley — a Rocklin Republican now running in the recall election — sued Newsom to try to limit his emergency power, but ultimately lost in court. With that ruling that a governor has broad authority to change or rescind laws during an emergency, GOP candidates are now talking about how they'd use such power themselves.

"I would not use executive authority to create new laws and new policies, as this governor has," Kiley said in an interview with CalMatters. "But I would use it to unwind things that never should've been there to begin with."

Kiley said he would end Newsom's pandemic emergency declaration, which would set the stage for reversing related public health rules, such as the requirement that children wear masks at school and that state employees and health care workers get vaccinated against COVID-19 (or be subject to routine testing). Other GOP candidates also pledge to reverse Newsom's mask and vax orders.

But the major Republican recall candidates are talking about using emergency powers for a lot more than the pandemic.

Kevin Faulconer, the Republican former mayor of San Diego, said he would declare an emergency over wildfires to speed up prevention efforts to clear trees and brush.

Republican talk radio host Larry Elder said he'd declare emergencies over homelessness, drought and schools and use the power to change environmental and education rules.

"I have a lot more power than I thought I did, even dealing with a hostile Legislature," Elder said in an interview with CalMatters.

Of course, using emergency power to address longstanding issues would almost certainly get tested in court. A plaintiff could argue that an ongoing and predictable problem is not a proper use of a governor's emergency orders. But under the Emergency Services Act, the governor's powers are intended to be very broad, and courts have been lenient in defining emergency power, said David A. Carrillo, executive director of UC Berkeley Law's California Constitution Center.

"That's a potentially dangerous combination," he said.

Conceivably, Democrats could try to prevent a new governor from using emergency power by revoking the Emergency Services Act some time between the Sept. 14 election and a new governor being sworn in, Carrillo said. Hypothetically, if Newsom loses the recall, he could call an emergency session of the Legislature and lawmakers could vote to repeal the law, or put it on hold until after the 2022 gubernatorial election.

"A power move like that would hobble a new governor's emergency powers," Carrillo said.

Beyond emergencies, Elder said he would reverse executive orders Newsom has issued on environmental issues, such as a ban on oil fracking and phasing out the sale of gas-powered cars.

"They'll be repealed," Elder said. "I believe that we ought to be encouraging fracking, not discouraging fracking. It can be done safely."

But Elder said he would not only govern by executive power and said he believes he can also find ways to work with the Legislature — a conclusion he said he was surprised to reach after consulting with former Gov. Pete Wilson, a Republican who worked with a Democratic-controlled Legislature in the 1990s.

"One of the reasons I initially did not want to run is because of the supermajority Democrat Legislature we have in Sacramento and my assumption that whenever I vetoed something, it would be readily overridden," Elder said.

"Much to my surprise, a bill has not been overridden since I think the early 1980s."

It's true that overriding a veto is rare. Lawmakers have only used that power a handful of times in the last 50 years, according to the state Senate Office of Research.

But political dynamics at the Capitol are substantially different now than they were in previous eras, when state government was politically divided. That makes use of the override more likely.

In both the Assembly and state Senate, Democrats now hold more than the two-thirds majorities needed to override a veto, if moderates and progressives stay united. During the terms of the last two Republican governors — Wilson, from 1991 to 1999, and Arnold Schwarznegger, who won the 2003 recall and served until 2011 — Democrats did not have a supermajority.

And the rules for passing a budget have changed significantly since then, too. It only takes a simple majority to pass the budget now; not the two-thirds vote that forced bipartisanship (and lots of partisan gridlock) until voters changed the law in 2010.

"The fundamental rules have changed — because of the supermajority the Democrats have, and the majority-vote budget rule — that have made the situation really different," said Bill Lockyer, who was the Democratic leader of the state Senate during much of Wilson's time as governor.

"There'll be lots of pressure to do overrides."

One thing that won't be different? The Democratic Senate's ability to block appointments by a Republican governor. Though a governor has authority to appoint members of the state Board of Education, California Air Resources Board and other powerful bodies, and to fill thousands of positions throughout state government, the most significant appointments that play a role in shaping policy must be approved by the state Senate.

"There were numerous examples of where we refused to confirm a gubernatorial appointment, and that's highly likely to occur with the (recall candidates) we see on the Republican side," Lockyer said.

Another thing that won't change: Governors don't need any input from the Legislature to appoint judges. Newsom alluded to how drastically a new Republican governor could shape California courts in a recent Zoom call with supporters: "I think about my kids and their future, the damage that a Republican can do (with) judicial appointments unfettered by the Legislature."

The governor also has the power to fill vacant statewide offices without the Legislature's approval. Newsom used that authority to shape Democratic politics in California following the 2020 election, appointing Alex Padilla as the state's first Latino senator when Kamala Harris became vice president, and then choosing Shirley Weber as California's first Black secretary of state and Rob Bonta as first Filipino American attorney general.

There's already plenty of political speculation of what might happen if U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who is 88, retires before her term ends.

And under the state constitution, the governor has the power to grant pardons and commutations for convicted criminals and to review parole decisions. For example, Newsom — or whoever is governor later this year — will get the final say on whether Sirhan Sirhan, who assassinated Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, will be released from prison.

Republican businessman John Cox said that if elected, he would try to avoid using executive action and instead find ways to work with the Legislature to address problems with housing, homelessness, water and electricity.

"I'm going to propose a package of reforms on all of these issues. And I'll certainly sit down with legislators and try to fashion a majority that will want to deal with these and get the problems fixed," Cox told CalMatters.

If that doesn't work, he said he'll recruit candidates to challenge lawmakers in their re-election campaigns.

But if a Republican is elected in the recall, it would be just a year before voters pick a governor again. And it will likely be with far less than a majority of votes — hardly what Democratic legislators would view as a mandate.

That's because of the strange rules for a recall (which a federal judge affirmed on Aug. 27 are constitutional): Newsom will be ousted if a simple majority of voters say "yes" on the first question on the ballot. The person who replaces him will be whoever gets the most votes on the second question, even if it's less than a majority. So far, no candidate has polled higher than 27%.

It was different in the 2003 recall, when 55% of voters ousted then-Gov. Gray Davis and 49% voted to replace him with Schwarzenegger.

"The mandate by voters at the time was, they wanted change," said Fabian Nunez, a Democrat who led the Assembly during Schwarzenegger's first term.

"When you look at the crowd of people that are running in this recall, there's nobody that even comes close to that."

Nunez and Schwarzenegger locked horns many times at the start of that governorship. The new governor famously called the Legislature a bunch of "girlie men" as he pressured them to pass a budget.

But he wound up abandoning some of his most conservative proposals, including on spending and teacher tenure, after they were rejected by voters. Eventually, Schwarzenegger and Nunez learned to cooperate, and even became friends.

"I never once tactically thought, 'OK we have to moderate our stance now that we have a Republican governor.' But I did think that we had to figure out a way to work with him if we wanted to get things done," Nunez said.

He pointed out, though, that Democrats didn't have a supermajority back then. They couldn't override a governor's veto or pass a budget without Republican votes:

"They were very different times than now."

Email Laurel Rosenhall at [email protected]

CALmatters.org is a nonprofit, nonpartisan media venture explaining California's policies and politics.

Comments

Farley Cooper
Registered user
Los Altos
on Sep 5, 2021 at 9:15 am
Farley Cooper, Los Altos
Registered user
on Sep 5, 2021 at 9:15 am

There will be noteworthy grumbling and minimal improvements regardless of whoever becomes (or remains) the governor of California.

And Dianne Feinstein is not going away anytime soon. She plans to run for re-election and if successful, she will be 94 at the end of this new term. Add another election/term and she could become a 100 year-old U.S. Senator.

Now how cool (or uncool) is that?


Janice Selznick
Registered user
College Terrace
on Sep 5, 2021 at 1:45 pm
Janice Selznick, College Terrace
Registered user
on Sep 5, 2021 at 1:45 pm


This article misses the point of eliminating (recalling Newsom). With an Independent, Libertarian, or Republican Governor in power, many of the bad ideas from the state’s legislature will arrive “dead on arrival.” That’s a big feature!

Get rid of the one-party rot.


John B. Sails
Registered user
Midtown
on Sep 6, 2021 at 7:47 am
John B. Sails, Midtown
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 7:47 am

Eliminating? Isn't it really more like seeing one person get more votes, being angry about it so you hold your breath until you turn blue if the losing side isn't proclaimed the 'winner'? Every parent knows, you don't act scared of the bluff. no one is going to be 'eliminated' by this charade.


Tyler Cannon
Registered user
Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 6, 2021 at 9:04 am
Tyler Cannon, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 9:04 am

> If Newsom is recalled, how would a Republican governor get anything done?

^ It's called bipartisanship.


John Donegan
Registered user
another community
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:09 am
John Donegan, another community
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:09 am

A Republican might not "get anything done", but at least they could veto the various brainfarts coming out of the Democratic legislature. That would be a big help.


Jennifer
Registered user
another community
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:18 am
Jennifer, another community
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:18 am

Another thing a Republican governor won't do -- release violent felons onto the streets of California. How's that working out for the pathetic increase in crime?


Vance Johnson
Registered user
another community
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:19 am
Vance Johnson, another community
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:19 am

°° If Newsom is recalled, how would a Republican governor get anything done?

Concurring with Mr. Donegan...by blocking or delaying all of the hairbrained Democratic Party initiatives that waste taxpayer dollars.


Mama
Registered user
Crescent Park
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:37 am
Mama, Crescent Park
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:37 am

I’m a very middle of the road Republican for recall on who did not vote for Elder. That said, recalling Newsom would give another governor the power to veto all the nonsense coming out of the state legislature. Just vote to recall and let the chips fall. Even the other Democrat might be better than our Prince of the French Market.


Mama
Registered user
Crescent Park
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:38 am
Mama, Crescent Park
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:38 am

I’m a very middle of the road Republican for recall who did not vote for Elder. That said, recalling Newsom would give another governor the power to veto all the nonsense coming out of the state legislature. Just vote to recall and let the chips fall. Even the other Democrat might be better than our Prince of the French Market.


John B. Sails
Registered user
Midtown
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:40 am
John B. Sails, Midtown
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 10:40 am

What wastes more tax-payers dollars than this ridiculous/futile recall election? If repubs are such, uh, belt-tighteners was it? That's the theory we're going with here? They're going to pay what to abortion clinic vigilantes ? Elder wants to reduce vaccines? This will save money? How? (with a serious face)?


Patti Johnston
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 6, 2021 at 11:40 am
Patti Johnston, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 11:40 am

- Another thing a Republican governor won't do -- release violent felons onto the streets of California. How's that working out for the pathetic increase in crime?

No different than the United States releasing terrorists from Guantanamo Bay, one of whom is now a Taliban leader.

The incarcerated should complete their full sentences with no time off for 'good behavior'.

Bad behavior is what sent them off to prison in the first place.


William Hitchens
Registered user
Mountain View
on Sep 6, 2021 at 1:13 pm
William Hitchens, Mountain View
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 1:13 pm

I would expect gridlock in the legislature against all unreasonable Republican proposals, life as usual for Democratic legislation, and a lot of lawsuits to block any phony Republican Governor's "emergencies" in the courts. Ordinarily I would be angered by the Democrats' super majorities in the House and the Senate, but the CA Republican Party has gone so far whacko alt-Right that they really don't deserve a chance at governing. Not that I (a moderate Republican without a Party) think the Democrats are much better, but there are lots of moderate Democrats to keep the alt-Lefties under control --- most of the time.


We Are The People
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Sep 6, 2021 at 2:33 pm
We Are The People, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 2:33 pm

Am Old enough to remember when California had a Republican Governor that release and CLOSED down Mental Hospitals? What was he thinking? This was the start of "Homelessness" crisis.
He was the start of The "Trickle down Theory". You see how that is working for all the Other Trickle Down States. Most are the POOREST in the Nation.
Cut Cost and Regulations for the Top 1% and complain when a Democrat Governor muscles in to level out the playing field.
I still can't Phantom how anyone would ever consider wanting "Elders"?
Oh, but they did want St. Reagan and The Orangeman?? Maybe it'll be Kaitlyn Jenner possibly? Why don't they just go into Walmart and interview?
Most Republicans are like the "Emperor that has no Clothes on!


What Will They Do Next
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Sep 6, 2021 at 3:18 pm
What Will They Do Next, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 3:18 pm

@ We Are The People ... Reagan last held the office of governor when his second term ended in 1975. So what have the Democrats in Sacramento been doing about the mental hospitals and homelessness for the last 45 years? They've had plenty of time and the majority vote in the capitol to undo that mistake. But wait .... They've wasted billions of our tax dollars on pet projects that either went or are going nowhere. Case in point, high speed rail. By the time they finish, if they ever do, the technology will have been replaced with something more efficient.

[Portion removed.]

BTW, how are Democrat policies working in California right now? Businesses, corporations and individuals are leaving the state in numbers that have produced a declining population for the first time in decades. Highest corporate taxes in the country (dems never have enough of other peoples money to spend), some of the highest property taxes anywhere, roads in disrepair, a failing public education system, crime and homelessness on the rise even in areas like Palo Alto and I could go on, but won't.

And speaking of the emperor having no clothes, you just perfectly described our current governor, the empty suit in Sacramento whose only concerns are optics. Right now they're very bad. Gavin is really worried and bombarding the airwaves with commercials from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren won't help one bit. It's also why the giggling Kamala Harris was encouraged to stay away from his campaign. She couldn't even win California when she ran for president. People on both sides have her figured out.


What Will They Do Next
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Sep 6, 2021 at 3:30 pm
What Will They Do Next, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 3:30 pm

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Citizen
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 6, 2021 at 7:49 pm
Citizen, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 7:49 pm

Reaganomics--a repeatedly disproven economic theory more descriptively called "trickle-down" or laissez-faire economics, which Reagan's own budget director admitted was a front (a lie) to get tax cuts through on the very richest--has been the dominant economic ideology since Reagan was potus.

The Supreme Court has the entire time since Reagan's presidency had a conservative majority for an unbroken 50 years, and has handed down decision after decision in favor of the very wealthiest at the expense of everyone else. (See "Supreme Inequality" by Adam Cohen).

Democrats have repeatedly had to clean up after the messes Republicans make, like the massive Reagan deficit and the 2008 financial crisis (and massive Bush deficit which he made after Clinton left the largest surplus and was paying off the debt) after nearly 2 terms of total Republican dominance in all branches of federal government, while Republicans never take responsibility for anything. Democrats have been notoriously fickle voters and have never really understood the power issues involved in overcoming these structural inequities. As a consequence, they're stuck cleaning up Republican messes and dealing with Republican bullying and lying rather than solving problems like climate change.

The electoral college has a built-in advantage for Republicans, who find it easier to get out voters because they have found it easier and easier to lie about everything. (See Stuart Steven's "It was all a lie" on the topic of the "industrial lying" on the Right that has no equivalence on the left, as we saw culminate in the last administration.) As a result, since the '90s, a Republican has won the popular vote only once, just barely, and he was an incumbent, yet have been in office enough for trickle-down ideology, and the related disinvestment in our infrastructure and nation, to continue.


We Are The People
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Sep 6, 2021 at 8:37 pm
We Are The People, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Sep 6, 2021 at 8:37 pm

@what will they do next?
You are given the right to use your 1st Amendment Rights. But not your Facts.
Do you remember "Jarvis Gann"?
Every time a Republican comes into office, the Democrats have to clean up their messes. Everything that you brought forth, is the cause of what some Republican has done.
When the Dems began taking care of that particular mess, The Red States began giving Their 'strays' Bus tickets to California.
Addressing the Businesses/Corporations moving out. Good. Don't let the door smack you where the Good Lord Crack you. Business have been doing what they do for decades. Outsourcing & bringing in trained Workers from other Countries. Giving them Housing & signup Bonuses. So stop crying a river for the obvious.
Decline in population
High rent. Swartznegger was held back because who he was married to? I remembered when Obama was elected, he said "Finally we have a Friend in the White House"?
As for the the High Speed Rail? You're right. Other Countries have a better transportation system? But again when you take a look as to WHY nothing gets done, (BUT the Dems Pet Projects). Its always held back by something the Repubs is doing? It is said by the time the "Rail" is finish, it'll be outdated?
I don't particular care for a LOT of Their projects either. But They are the representatives for all Citizens.
Larry Elder is a Clown. He doesn't belong to a Subjected Race. Maybe with Ben Carson and Herman Cain (god rest his soul)? As for Kamala Harris, she does like to giggle a lot and at first I didn't want her as Vice President. I wanted Susan Rice.

As to Newsome being worried? Why? Usually in a off Season Democrats' don't turn out. But this is the Age of Mail in Ballots. You know the process that the Republicans can't stand.
My point is this... In the end, there shouldn't be a Recall.
Repubs always bring up what things cost, except when its their turn to perform. What about this Recall?
And the process sucks.


What Will They Do Next
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Sep 7, 2021 at 11:49 am
What Will They Do Next, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Sep 7, 2021 at 11:49 am

@ We Are The People .... I would say you did pretty well. Forget Kamala, you got Susan Rice as president.


Tristan Rogers
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Community Center
on Sep 7, 2021 at 11:58 am
Tristan Rogers, Community Center
Registered user
on Sep 7, 2021 at 11:58 am

There is no REAL leadership in America regardless of whether the Republicans or Democrats are in control.

So now that we have established that premise, what's next on the horizon?


We Are The People
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Sep 7, 2021 at 1:19 pm
We Are The People, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Sep 7, 2021 at 1:19 pm

@What will they do Next.

Susan Rice - Donald tRump?
Susan Rice - Donald tRump?
Anybody - Donald tRump?
Anybody - Donald tRump?
Anybody - COVID 19
Anybody - Insurrection
Anybody - All the rest of that FORM of pretend Presidency.
When tRump was ousted. The Country took a breath and "EXHALE".
Peace fell upon us. Rice untraditional. So was the experiment of the "Former Guy".
But I bet you good money that Rice knows that Jefferson is dead and would not of invited the "Taliban" to Camp David. Or the Russians into the Oval Office?


What Will They Do Next
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Old Palo Alto
on Sep 7, 2021 at 2:47 pm
What Will They Do Next, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Sep 7, 2021 at 2:47 pm

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We Are The People
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Menlo Park
on Sep 7, 2021 at 3:59 pm
We Are The People, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Sep 7, 2021 at 3:59 pm

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NeilsonBuchanan
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Downtown North
on Sep 13, 2021 at 12:53 pm
NeilsonBuchanan, Downtown North
Registered user
on Sep 13, 2021 at 12:53 pm

As I look at the Governor's office from 10,000 feet, I see a very safe Newsom during the recall and for the next general elections. I don't foresee viable candidate to displace Guv Newsom in 2021 or 2022.

Nothing is certain in politics but my calculus indicates that it is almost impossible for a viable Republican to survive primary election and emerge with enuf cred and funding to beat Newsom if he decides to run for second term. I am confident that Newsom wont repeat a fine dining blunder.


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