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Opinion: A teen's perspective on anti-Asian attacks

A woman holds a sign with the message "Asians are not viruses racism is!" at a protest in Palo Alto on March 21. Courtesy Sydney Ling.

Attacks against Asians in California in 2021 alone:

On Jan. 28, an elderly Thai-American man, Vicha Ratanapakdee, was assaulted in San Francisco and later died from his injuries. Two were arrested in connection with the incident; one of them was charged with murder.

On Jan. 31, an elderly man was attacked in Chinatown, Oakland, in an incident that is widely believed to be motivated by racism. A suspect has been arrested and charged.

In February, racist graffiti was found near a Chinese American school in San Francisco.

An Asian woman walking in Brentwood was racially harassed by a man. The man was later fired from his job as a real estate agent.

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On Chinese New Year, an Asian-owned preschool in Alhambra was found vandalized with feces and an insulting message.

Jessica Zang is a Palo Alto-born high school student who's passionate about subjects from social justice to hustle culture. Photo by Sammy Dallal.

On Feb. 15, an elderly Filipino woman was attacked on a San Diego trolley.

In Ladera Ranch, several teenagers harassed an Asian American family by repeatedly pounding on their front door at night then running away, leaving a pornographic print in front of their home, yelling racial slurs and throwing rocks at the home.

In February, a Korean American Air Force veteran was attacked in Koreatown, Los Angeles. The veteran says he was called "Chinese virus" and "Ching chong."

On Feb. 22, a man drove to a Chinese American butcher shop in Sacramento and left a box containing a mutilated cat in the parking lot.

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On Feb. 23, a man from Berkeley was arrested for making threats to kill Asians on social media.

On Feb. 27, a Japanese Buddhist temple in Los Angeles was vandalized and the property was set on fire. This follows past security breaches and assaults on security personnel in the prior two weeks.

On March 7, an Asian American Uber driver in San Francisco was assaulted by his passengers after he asked them to wear masks. The passengers made statements appearing to make fun of the driver's race. The passengers were later banned from Uber and Lyft.

On March 8, a woman was arraigned for spitting on an Asian American stranger having lunch in Mountain View.

On March 9, a 75-year-old man was assaulted in Oakland and later died from his injuries. A man was arrested, who police say had a history of targeting elderly Asian Americans.

And most recently in Georgia:

On March 16, a man carried out a mass shooting at three Asian massage parlors, leaving eight dead — six of whom were Asian women.

Look at it. Look at it and tell me that racism against Asian Americans, xenophobia against Chinese people, only exists within my mind.

It seems like almost every day this year, I've grieved for those the Asian community has lost due to ignorant people with racist ideals. I am tired of fearing for our safety when my family leaves the house, even knowing that Palo Alto is a better community than most. In 2021 alone (a little more than three months' worth of time), there have been too many attacks against Asian Americans in the Bay Area and California, and I wonder when I will be able to let out a small breath of relief. But I see no respite in sight.

Too often, people view discrimination against Asians as new, as something that only appears in issues like the bamboo ceiling or affirmative action. It is not new. Asians have been in America in large numbers since the Gold Rush era in the 1850s, and one of the only immigration bans on the basis of nationality was the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. Portrayed as the "yellow peril" and refused employment by American business owners, Asian citizens were forced into ethnic enclaves, and the only jobs they had access to consisted of railroad building or managing laundromats.

We are not foreign to America or its racism, and it's time people start recognizing that racism against Asians in this country runs painfully deep.

In light of recent events, I am scared, angry and disappointed. I'm scared to take walks in my neighborhood, to embrace my culture, to eat Chinese food in fear of being ridiculed. I'm angry because when I attempted to speak about this issue almost a year ago, people acted as if I had imagined the racism against Asians, as if I was complaining about an issue that didn't exist.

And I am disappointed in the way people have responded to such news, the way people still assert that Asian Americans don't experience racism. I find myself disappointed over and over again.

Perhaps you may think that I dislike America, for pointing out places in our history where we have not been so great. But you can love a country while admitting its faults. You can love a country by wanting it to be better. And I want America and its people to be better, to stop letting hatred guide its actions.

I'm done being silent, and I'm done listening to people who play devil's advocate for murderers.

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Opinion: A teen's perspective on anti-Asian attacks

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Attacks against Asians in California in 2021 alone:

On Jan. 28, an elderly Thai-American man, Vicha Ratanapakdee, was assaulted in San Francisco and later died from his injuries. Two were arrested in connection with the incident; one of them was charged with murder.

On Jan. 31, an elderly man was attacked in Chinatown, Oakland, in an incident that is widely believed to be motivated by racism. A suspect has been arrested and charged.

In February, racist graffiti was found near a Chinese American school in San Francisco.

An Asian woman walking in Brentwood was racially harassed by a man. The man was later fired from his job as a real estate agent.

On Chinese New Year, an Asian-owned preschool in Alhambra was found vandalized with feces and an insulting message.

On Feb. 15, an elderly Filipino woman was attacked on a San Diego trolley.

In Ladera Ranch, several teenagers harassed an Asian American family by repeatedly pounding on their front door at night then running away, leaving a pornographic print in front of their home, yelling racial slurs and throwing rocks at the home.

In February, a Korean American Air Force veteran was attacked in Koreatown, Los Angeles. The veteran says he was called "Chinese virus" and "Ching chong."

On Feb. 22, a man drove to a Chinese American butcher shop in Sacramento and left a box containing a mutilated cat in the parking lot.

On Feb. 23, a man from Berkeley was arrested for making threats to kill Asians on social media.

On Feb. 27, a Japanese Buddhist temple in Los Angeles was vandalized and the property was set on fire. This follows past security breaches and assaults on security personnel in the prior two weeks.

On March 7, an Asian American Uber driver in San Francisco was assaulted by his passengers after he asked them to wear masks. The passengers made statements appearing to make fun of the driver's race. The passengers were later banned from Uber and Lyft.

On March 8, a woman was arraigned for spitting on an Asian American stranger having lunch in Mountain View.

On March 9, a 75-year-old man was assaulted in Oakland and later died from his injuries. A man was arrested, who police say had a history of targeting elderly Asian Americans.

And most recently in Georgia:

On March 16, a man carried out a mass shooting at three Asian massage parlors, leaving eight dead — six of whom were Asian women.

Look at it. Look at it and tell me that racism against Asian Americans, xenophobia against Chinese people, only exists within my mind.

It seems like almost every day this year, I've grieved for those the Asian community has lost due to ignorant people with racist ideals. I am tired of fearing for our safety when my family leaves the house, even knowing that Palo Alto is a better community than most. In 2021 alone (a little more than three months' worth of time), there have been too many attacks against Asian Americans in the Bay Area and California, and I wonder when I will be able to let out a small breath of relief. But I see no respite in sight.

Too often, people view discrimination against Asians as new, as something that only appears in issues like the bamboo ceiling or affirmative action. It is not new. Asians have been in America in large numbers since the Gold Rush era in the 1850s, and one of the only immigration bans on the basis of nationality was the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882. Portrayed as the "yellow peril" and refused employment by American business owners, Asian citizens were forced into ethnic enclaves, and the only jobs they had access to consisted of railroad building or managing laundromats.

We are not foreign to America or its racism, and it's time people start recognizing that racism against Asians in this country runs painfully deep.

In light of recent events, I am scared, angry and disappointed. I'm scared to take walks in my neighborhood, to embrace my culture, to eat Chinese food in fear of being ridiculed. I'm angry because when I attempted to speak about this issue almost a year ago, people acted as if I had imagined the racism against Asians, as if I was complaining about an issue that didn't exist.

And I am disappointed in the way people have responded to such news, the way people still assert that Asian Americans don't experience racism. I find myself disappointed over and over again.

Perhaps you may think that I dislike America, for pointing out places in our history where we have not been so great. But you can love a country while admitting its faults. You can love a country by wanting it to be better. And I want America and its people to be better, to stop letting hatred guide its actions.

I'm done being silent, and I'm done listening to people who play devil's advocate for murderers.

Jessica Zang is a Palo Alto-born high school student who's passionate about subjects from social justice to hustle culture. Email her at [email protected]

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Squidsie
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another community
on Mar 26, 2021 at 8:07 am
Squidsie, another community
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on Mar 26, 2021 at 8:07 am

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janice lee
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Menlo Park
on Mar 26, 2021 at 9:39 am
janice lee, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 9:39 am

@Squidsie

Simply repeating your earlier posting from Jessica's blog clearly indicates that you did not 'get the drift' from any of the numerous other commentaries cited by concerned Asians, African-Americans, East Indians, Jewish and Middle Easterners and *gasp* even some white people who concur that racism can take many forms...from blatant to subtle.

Curious...who are the Asians being 'politically weaponized' by?

CNN, MNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post and all of the other liberal media news outlets?

Goodness, let's turn our attention instead to FOX News where Hannity and Carlson focus their narratives on the demise of Mr. Potato Head...perhaps we can blame a potato for these horrific crimes, not only targeting Asians but all people of color.

It is unfortunate that Jessica's initial blog was shut down...most likely due to complaints by certain deniers of reality.


Ara Weisman
Registered user
Stanford
on Mar 26, 2021 at 10:59 am
Ara Weisman, Stanford
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 10:59 am

There is an entire mental and sociopathic universe inclusive and exclusive of MAGA supporters.

All profess their patriotism, a strong belief in Christianity, adherence to an unrestricted 2nd Amendment, a belief in various QAnon conspiracy theories, and the undying concern that the once great nation of America is slipping away from their grasps.

And as far as MAGA cap wearers are concerned, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to turn the brim backwards and be an active part of both right-wing universes.

The various postings in Jessica's now-closed blog spoke volumes and the outrage and contempt towards the racism in general and seemingly perpetuated by a handful of (non-person of color) deniers cannot be easily ignored or overlooked.

And hopefully those individuals along with the MAGA movement will eventually fade into obscurity.


Bystander
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 26, 2021 at 11:15 am
Bystander, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 11:15 am

Jessica's blog post had become unreadable. She made some good points. Explained her fears. Instead of getting support as she should have done, the majority of the posts were hateful and if those words were said about any other demographic would have been immediately deleted by the moderators.

I did not complain as freedom of speech should be lauded. But it says a great deal about those who commented as how hateful they could be.


Kathy
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Evergreen Park
on Mar 26, 2021 at 11:16 am
Kathy, Evergreen Park
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 11:16 am

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Isabel Melendez
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another community
on Mar 26, 2021 at 12:19 pm
Isabel Melendez, another community
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 12:19 pm

~~ Jessica's blog post had become unreadable.

Unreadable to whom...the MAGA-inspired deniers of pervasive racism or the 'silent types' who ostensibly and
embracee the practice?


~~ She made some good points. Explained her fears. Instead of getting support as she should have done, the majority of the posts were hateful...

The 'majority of the posts' were more along the lines of other people of color being contemptuous towards those who conveniently disavow any accountability for these racist mindsets and actions by pointing their accusatory fingers at other minority groups for these recent hate crimes.

This 'white-washed' mentality is a cop-out and overt racism in its own right.


Daric Lee
Registered user
Midtown
on Mar 26, 2021 at 12:46 pm
Daric Lee, Midtown
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 12:46 pm

Jessica's recent blog and the subsequent postings spoke volumes.

Unfortunately, there were about 3-4 posters who were more than willing to feign their 'hurt feelings' while blaming other minority groups for the majority of these recent hate crimes towards Asians.

Now whether they are MAGA supporters, QAnon believers, white supremacists, baloney connosieurs, or blind deniers is immaterial as they are ALL cut from the same cloth.

Simple as that.


willie beamon
Registered user
East Palo Alto
on Mar 26, 2021 at 1:38 pm
willie beamon, East Palo Alto
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 1:38 pm

I am reminded of the recent hate crime in SF where an elderly Chinese woman was attacked by a white racist man.

She then picked-up a flat board and whacked him across the face sending the perpetrator to the ER which was then followed by his arrest.

Hopefully we haven't gotten to the point where people of color need to be carrying baseball bats just to go shopping but if someone attacked my elderly grandmother, I would most definitely retaliate, no questions asked.

Verbal abuse should be ignored but a physical attack warrants either self-defense measures and/or physically destroying one's assailant.

African Americans as a whole no longer subject themselves to this kind of racist-inspired hostility and I suspect that if it does not subside ASAP, more Asians will be taking it upon themselves to protect their loved ones regardless of the eventual repercussions.

Sadly we are at war...with a dominant white mentality that continues to disrespect and disdain our existence.


Peter Chao
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Community Center
on Mar 26, 2021 at 2:01 pm
Peter Chao, Community Center
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 2:01 pm

MAGA - Make America Great Again actually means 'Make America White Again'.

Which it never truly was due to the enslavement of Africans and the Native American inhabitants.

So are these Trump supporters of superlative IQ or what?


Jan Buck
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another community
on Mar 26, 2021 at 2:36 pm
Jan Buck, another community
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 2:36 pm

I frankly think that many whites envy the general intelligence, drive, and smarts of Asians.........


Aaron Lieberman
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Stanford
on Mar 26, 2021 at 3:19 pm
Aaron Lieberman, Stanford
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 3:19 pm

Outside of ethnicity and religion, many Asian and Jewish people share certain similarities (e.g. an emphasis on higher education, smaller families and fiscal practicalities).

The MAGA supporters are predominantly undereducated whites, conservative Christians and QAnon believers who view former president Donald Trump as an exalted and charismatic leader who was robbed of a rightful second term in office.

Very few minority people of color (including African Americans, Asians, and Jewish people) support his political platform regardless of their educational levels and those that do are in some sort of denial or delusion as to (1) who they really are and (2) where they actually stand in the eyes of their white conservative 'colleagues' and American society as a whole.

A minority-race/ethnicity MAGA supporter is a peculiar demographic that goes beyond irony...akin to diving into a shark tank hoping to make friends with a 'Great White'.


Latrelle Jameson
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Menlo Park
on Mar 26, 2021 at 3:47 pm
Latrelle Jameson, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 3:47 pm

"A minority-race/ethnicity MAGA supporter is a peculiar demographic that goes beyond irony..."

I suspect that the African American political pundits who appeared on Fox News in support of Trump were paid actors, especially that guy wearing a red 45 cap.

No one is that out of touch with reality and an Asian Trump supporter (given POTUS45's racist remarks about the coronavirus) would be an anomaly.

The real irony would be a 2020 Asian Republican Trump voter now getting harassed by racist Trump supporters (aka the 'deplorables' as coined by Hillary Clinton in 2016) regardless of the various white lunatic fringe associations.

This racial discord has got to stop as it started by the white people who don't want others to be a viable part of America.


Iris Lupon
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Portola Valley
on Mar 26, 2021 at 4:35 pm
Iris Lupon, Portola Valley
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 4:35 pm

° "Yes...it must be the Asians, African-Americans, East Indians, Jewish people, Middle Easterners, Native Americans and other people of color primarily responsible for carrying out the majority of these recent hate crimes and racist spewings against Asians."

° "White folks can now officially absolve themselves of any such sentiments or responsibility..."


Of note:

> Exclusive: 43% of Americans say a specific organization or people to blame for COVID-19

USA TODAY

Susan Page
Washington Bureau Chief

Sarah Elbeshbishi

March 22, 2021

> Republicans were more than twice as likely as Democrats to hold a specific group or organization responsible for the pandemic.


✓ Yep. It's a Republican minority voter bloc consisting of assorted Asians, African-Americans, East Indians, Jewish people, Middle Easterners, Native Americans and other people of color in red MAGA caps who are attacking Asian people and blaming them for the coronavirus.

Seriously? White apologists and deniers need to come up with with a far better alibi to justify their logic.


Randy Chow
Registered user
another community
on Mar 26, 2021 at 6:44 pm
Randy Chow, another community
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 6:44 pm

Jessica's insightful blog said it all and many Asians (among others) are taking the time to peruse it along with the varied commentaries.

Most of the responses have been supportive despite a few racist sentiments that capture the essence of this problematic issue.

This is a social conflict that the white people created and perpetuated throughout the course of American history and sadly, it will not dissipate nor disappear overnight.

In any event and as some say, "the darkest hour is before the dawn" and in time, the old-school white Republicans and their seditious, low IQ, racist MAGA supporters and QAnoners will eventually go the way of the dinosaurs...like useless and forgotten fossil fuel in a world of electric cars.

No major loss to humanity.


Me 2
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Mar 26, 2021 at 7:58 pm
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Mar 26, 2021 at 7:58 pm

Wow. The denial of BIPOC and progressive racism against Asian-Americans still seems to be prevalent.

It wasn't a MAGA hat wearing white guy who killed the 83-year old Thai grandfather in San Francisco.

Violence against Asian elderly has been going on for decades before Trump. It's a dirty little secret that progressives and BIPOC don't want people to know.

The progressives have had it against Asian-Americans for a long time. It appears they're the ones who bought into the Model Minority myth and hold it against Asian-Americans when it comes to educational opportunity. It was the BIPOC progressives that changed Lowell to the lottery system. Ivy league schools continue to do so. Apparently being Asian-American is the equivalent of being Jewish in the early 1900s.

Don't whitewash the leftist racism against Asian-Americans.


Aramis Dubrovsky
Registered user
another community
on Mar 27, 2021 at 6:46 am
Aramis Dubrovsky, another community
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 6:46 am

In many ways, MAGA supporters are the NIMBYs of America in that they fear and resent the socio-economic changes that have occured over time and yearn for a return to yesteryear.

Donald Trump promised his mostly white followers that he would fulfill that dream and failed miserably by opening up old wounds and creating new ones.

There is a difference between a street thug crime and a racially motivated one and the white denialist, MAGA supporters who prefer to point their fingers at the African American community for the recent spree of hate crimes against Asians seem to be overlooking this factor.

And all things considered, we must simply disregard their narrow-minded perspectives which are grounded in substandard-education, pervasive racism, contrived Christian dogma, and various conspiracy theories bordering on the inane.

In other words, these types of individuals should simply be ignored and not given the time of day for they are essentially the dregs of American society.

And this includes ALL of the MAGA supporters including the current Republican representatives in Congress who still support and expound the Trump propaganda.

In time, the Republican Party will disappear like the early Federalists, Whigs and the Know Nothing parties...all political anachronisms whose time had passed.

And good riddance.

While the recent hate crimes against Asians cannot be fully attributed to the MAGA mindset and it's ardent followers, a sizable percentage of those opting to look the other way are most likely disgruntled white Trump supporters and agitators...a dispicable, repulsive, and ignorant gathering at best.


Jack Cook
Registered user
Mountain View
on Mar 27, 2021 at 7:30 am
Jack Cook, Mountain View
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 7:30 am

I voted for Trump in 2016 because I detested Hillary Clinton but that does not make me a racist.

And while I do not wear a MAGA cap, I have no negative issues or personal hostilities towards Asians.

As a matter of fact, I go to the Ubon festival every summer to eat Japanese food and to watch the colorful dancers in their native attire...and some of the dancers are even white!

I also drive a Hunday which I think is made somewhere in Korea and have visited Chinatown in San Francisco on various occasions.

My Apple phone is made in China and many of my home appliances and clothing are manufactured in Asian countries.

And while I would prefer to buy American-made products, it is getting progressively more difficult to do so.

Trump wanted to bring manufacturing back to the USA but who would want to pay $8K for an iPhone?

He was wrong to name the pandemic after the Chinese people because it is politically incorrect nowadays. In the past, various flu epidemics were called the Asian flu, Bankok flu, Tokyo flu etc. but those days are long gone.

Trump probably should have called it the bat flu as animals are not offended by these designations. In the past we have had the swine flu and aviary flus which were not considered offensive to people of color.

The hate crimes against Asians due to the pandemic is troubling and the blame factor is ill-conceived.

If anything and going back to the Bubonic Plague, it is the animal-borne disease source that should be held accountable.

Pigs and poultry are often destroyed due to pandemic outbreaks and perhaps most of the bats in China should be eradicated to prevent a future spread of the coronavirus.


Melba Whitaker
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Mar 27, 2021 at 7:59 am
Melba Whitaker, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 7:59 am

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]


Jennifer
Registered user
another community
on Mar 27, 2021 at 8:09 am
Jennifer, another community
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 8:09 am

I'm not a MAGA Trump supporter (I didn't vote for him either time - and left it blank once) but I pointed my finger towards a certain community because I was aware of the crimes in the article (except SD trolley) and the article didn't match what I had read or seen on video. Men and women of all races commit crimes, and there are crimes dominated by white men (WHITE COLLAR) but anti-Asian crimes during the pandemic are driven by ignorant people who have pent up frustration, and they're blaming Asians. Pandemics happen, and when things get back to normal, I'm hoping all this hate stops.


Bystander
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 27, 2021 at 8:22 am
Bystander, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 8:22 am

When I was in school I was able to play with all children in the playground quite happily. I think that was the case for most of us. I didn't learn very much about other cultures in school - or as much as my children have been taught - but I did learn that we are all the same with some good traits and some bad traits. I could be best friends with one child one day and sworn enemies the next and on the third day back to being best friends. Isn't that the way it should work?

Nowadays people just do not know how to get on. They do not understand the simple truth that we are all the same, warts and all. Sometimes it is our closest friends who can hurt us the most one day, but stand up and support us the next. We have all got to grow up. Use the lessons from childhood to take things in our stride. This is not a perfect world and it is not made up of perfect people. Everyone makes mistakes and can inadvertently upset someone, but it doesn't make them detestable, just human. Of course there are some who are truly detestable, but we have to learn the difference. Not one of us is perfect. Not one of us is not going to accidentally hurt someone else's feelings. But all of us are human and capable of understanding that we all make mistakes, and we can learn from our own mistakes and those of others.

Let's pretend we are back in our childhood playgrounds and stop pointing fingers, laying blame, and taking offense so easily. We need to grow up and start dealing with the bigger more important aspects of life while enjoying our differences.

Sorry if anyone dislikes my comment. It is a fact of life that some will agree and some will disagree and that is a perfectly normal human trait.


Doris Spreewell
Registered user
East Palo Alto
on Mar 27, 2021 at 8:47 am
Doris Spreewell, East Palo Alto
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 8:47 am

[Portion removed.]


"Of course there are some who are truly detestable, but we have to learn the difference."

^ My family learned the difference. My great-great uncle was LYNCHED in Mississippi because he had the 'audacity' to believe that he was an American citizen and eligible to vote for a president (albeit a white one) who didn't really care about people of color. And it didn't matter whether this WHITE presidential candidate was Democrat or Republican. [Portion removed.]

Going back to playground ideals is all fine and dandy if one chooses to remain in a childhood world.

The recent and unwarranted attacks on unsuspecting Asians is nothing new to any person of color in America.

And guess who most of the perpetrators were?

People of color now need to be further wary of a newer and younger breed of 'detestables' making their presence known.

It's called white militant supremists and you may have caught a glimpse of them on January 6th.

99% of them were WHITE and they sure as heck weren't supporting a free and open presidential election.


Preston Peters
Registered user
Woodside
on Mar 27, 2021 at 9:08 am
Preston Peters, Woodside
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 9:08 am

It is sadly unfortunate that 2-3 posters here still seem to embrace Tom Sawyer's concept of promoting 'whitewashing' as a convenient way of avoiding the task at hand.

In other words, let others accurately address a real social problem and simply go back to eating an apple.


Me 2
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Mar 27, 2021 at 9:13 am
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 9:13 am

Doris - it's really sad that you're trying to deflect the responsibility of the BIPOC community for targeting Asians. The Asian-American community knows that the progressives and BIPOC community don't really care about Asians until it can be weaponized to target "white supremacy."

I'm appalled that you and your fellow progressive and BIPOC activists treat our community as "minorities of convenience." Only when you can target white people do you consider Asians to be compatriots. Otherwise, your community continues to target Asian elders for robbery and violence, and take away our educational opportunities.

[Portion removed.]


Les Kaplan
Registered user
Stanford
on Mar 27, 2021 at 9:48 am
Les Kaplan, Stanford
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 9:48 am

>> It was the BIPOC progressives that changed Lowell to the lottery system. Ivy league schools continue to do so. Apparently being Asian-American is the equivalent of being Jewish in the early 1900s.

^ This sounds likes sour grapes on the part of someone who feels their children are entitled to attend Lowell or Yale simply because they are Asian with an impeccable academic standing.

Ethnic diversity in high schools and universities enrichens both the American cultural landscape and one's perspectives towards society as a whole.

High GPAs and SAT scores are not an accurate measurement of what one can positively or constructively contribute to society especially if a student also lacks the social and communicative skills to go with it.

Whether one is from the projects or an exclusive home in Atherton should not impact admission standards and neither should cumulative report card standing.

When Asians start blaming African Americans because their children are being deprived from attending their exclusive high schools and colleges of choice, the social abyss has widened and now the conflict goes far beyond Trumpville.

It borders on snobbism.

A suggestion...just send your kid to a community college for the first two years and save some money. There's no shame in attending Foothill JC and the idea of having a pedigree college association for the first to years is no different than having a dire need to wear designer label clothing while grocery shopping at Safeway.

Get over it and BTW I am Jewish with no hang-ups or gripes with African Americans pressing for added consideration both educationally and vocationally.


Me 2
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:22 am
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:22 am

"This sounds likes sour grapes on the part of someone who feels their children are entitled to attend Lowell or Yale simply because they are Asian with an impeccable academic standing."

The fact is that many Asian-Americans attending Lowell are from working class families that have focused on education as a means to elevate themselves. The more affluent Asian-Americans are in private school like everyone else (or in PA)

"Ethnic diversity in high schools and universities enrichens both the American cultural landscape and one's perspectives towards society as a whole."

Ethnic diversity with maintianing academic standards is a great goal. At the expense of, it is not.

"Whether one is from the projects or an exclusive home in Atherton should not impact admission standards and neither should cumulative report card standing."

That's not what happens. Asian-Americans are penalized in the admissions process - reduction points based on "soft factors" that are arbitrary and, frankly, racist. Their GPA and SAT scores are reduced during consideration.

So, admission standards are negatively impacted by being Asian American.

All for "progressive" reasons.

"When Asians start blaming African Americans because their children are being deprived from attending their exclusive high schools and colleges of choice, the social abyss has widened and now the conflict goes far beyond Trumpville."

It was a BIPOC-dominant SFUSD board that changed Lowell admissions. It was a self-identifying African American (who is actually half white BTW) that said on Twitter what BIPOCs have been saying behind our backs for a long time.

"BTW I am Jewish with no hang-ups or gripes with African Americans pressing for added consideration both educationally and vocationally."

Kudos to you, but being Jewish in 2021 America is slightly different than being one in 1922.

Web Link

And your working class community isn't being targeted by BIPOC violence.



Rowan Tsien
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:34 am
Rowan Tsien, another community
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@Me 2

Sadly, too many Asian parents pressure their children to excel in school and it can become a drag.

Not every Asian kid can or will become an MD.

And like who cares if one goes to Lowell High School or Harvard or if an African American student gets priority admissions?

I grew up in Chinatown (SF) and got expelled from Galileo (probably way below your high school academic standards) for truancy and subsequently busted for grand theft auto/joyriding.

Spent senior year in juvenile hall and completed my GED a year later. No big deal.

I then washed dishes in a downtown chop suey joint for a year and before joining the Navy.

Four years later (at 24) I attended SF City College on the GI Bill before transferring to UC Berkeley and graduated at 29 with a BS. During that time (including while in the Navy) I hung out with a lot of cool black dudes and even dated a few of their sisters and cousins.

Surprisingly, I later got accepted to UCSF where I completed an advanced degree in Pharmacology researching various hallucinogenic compounds for pain relief (and that was a gas).

To make a long story shorter, while working for Big Pharma I met my future wife (an Asian MD who ironically attended both Lowell and Stanford) and as far as our two kids go, I couldn't care less what they do in life as long as they stay out of prison.

No pressures from this Asian pop...just groove and let fate play it's hand. Dig?




Me 2
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:48 am
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:48 am

Thanks for proving my point.

Ethnicity and race are bogus constructs. People are people and should not be promoted or denigrated based on your ethnic group.

But when Happa kids benefit from identifying as caucasian instead of Asian, you know things are bad.


Judy Wasserman
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Community Center
on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:50 am
Judy Wasserman, Community Center
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:50 am

@ It would be nice if the PACC also declared a 'Get To Know An Asian Day' in Palo Alto to help alleviate these current hostilities towards Asians and to make new acquaintances.

# I think that's a marvelous idea!

And in addition to conveying a warm greeting to our Asian co-residents, we could also place one of those corrugated illuminated paper lanterns in the front of our homes to show that we are not anti-Asian or MAGA supporters.

Imagine a street lit up at night with them!


Me 2
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:57 am
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 10:57 am

"Get To Know An Asian Day"

Jesus Christ, could you guys be even more patronizing?

I hope this is sarcasm....


Amy Williams
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Old Palo Alto
on Mar 27, 2021 at 12:01 pm
Amy Williams, Old Palo Alto
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¶...we could also place one of those corrugated illuminated paper lanterns in the front of our homes to show that we are not anti-Asian or MAGA supporters.

¶ Imagine a street lit up at night with them!

It would be like Fulton Street at Christmastime but a citywide show of support for our fellow Asian residents.

And I imagine even some Trump/MAGA supporters would display these colorful lanterns to avoid being outed as closet racists by their neighbors.

I love it!


Phyliss Demery
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Old Palo Alto
on Mar 27, 2021 at 12:30 pm
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Len Matsumura
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 3:02 pm
Len Matsumura, another community
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"But when Happa kids benefit from identifying as caucasian instead of Asian, you know things are bad."

I've got two grandkids who are Happa and they tend play both race cards depending on the situation/advantage.

In most social scenarios (i.e. school, work and dating) they prefer to blend in as white people and at other times, they play the cultural pride card citing their Asian ancestry.


Miriam Peterson
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 3:24 pm
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Me 2
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 3:25 pm
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
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"Each one is distinct and I would not want to offend anyone by appearing exclusatory towards their cultural and respective ethnicities."

Already crossed that line. It's offensive that you think this virtue signaling does anything more than make you feel better about yourself.

How about just accepting us as Americans? Too hard for you?


Kelly Winslow
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Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Mar 27, 2021 at 3:46 pm
Kelly Winslow, Leland Manor/Garland Drive
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 3:46 pm

It's nice to see people stepping up to address this matter.

Now that social gatherings are getting less restrictive, my husband and I are thinking of having an Asian Awareness potluck dinner where our friends (including a very nice Asian couple) can all get together and socialize while partaking in various Asian cuisines.

My husband was thinking of grilling teriyaki chicken and providing the wines while others could bring various Asian food items like assorted sushi rolls, chow mein, dim sum, egg rolls and I've got a great recipe for pho that I haven't made yet.

The painting of outdoor lanterns is a terrific idea and could keep the kids busy with an art project.


Bobby Mendoza
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 4:46 pm
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@ As a matter of fact, I go to the Ubon festival every summer to eat Japanese food and to watch the colorful dancers in their native attire...and some of the dancers are even white!

Yes...I too have been to the Obon festivals in San Jose, Mountain View, and Palo Alto.

Great food and a multi-ethnic gathering of Asians and whites. Sometimes I am the only Hispanic (at the Palo Alto temple) but that doesn't matter to me.

There are a number of skilled white dancers participating in the Obon-Odori but to date I have never seen an African American dancer in the circle and I imagine there are some who are engaged at other festivals, maybe in Los Angeles.

I have also never seen a white person wearing a MAGA cap at any of the Obon festivals which is probably advisable and in good taste.

In time and depending on the locale, Trump's most ardent supporters will probably be too embarrassed to admit their allegiance to MAGA due to increased public ostracism which is a good sign given his past track record and the DC insurrection.

That said, it is important to be accepting of all American citizens regardless of their ethnicity and to end the hate so we can move forward as a nation.

And one way is not to hate but to pity and feel sorry for the MAGA supporters, QAnon believers, pseudo-Christians, acquiescing Republicans, and other deplorables who give our country a bad global reputation.


Betty Harris
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Mountain View
on Mar 27, 2021 at 6:19 pm
Betty Harris, Mountain View
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 6:19 pm

* 'an Asian Awareness potluck'

We were thinking of doing something along the same lines but I think an 'Asian Occasion' would be more appropriate!


karen bedrosian
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 6:37 pm
karen bedrosian, another community
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another idea would be for people to fold paper origami cranes and then hand them out to Asians as a sign of friendship and compassion for what has recently transpired.


Marion Winters
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College Terrace
on Mar 27, 2021 at 6:59 pm
Marion Winters, College Terrace
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on Mar 27, 2021 at 6:59 pm

It is so refreshing and rewarding to hear of various residents in Palo Alto and those in the surrounding areas reaching out and striving to initiate a constructive healing process on behalf of the Asian community via cordial greetings, a display of colorful lanterns, Asian-inspired potlucks and the dispersement of hand-made paper cranes.

It is truly an enlightenment of sorts and one that all of America should embrace.




Justine M.
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Downtown North
on Mar 28, 2021 at 6:55 am
Justine M., Downtown North
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 6:55 am

In lieu of these depressing street protests, I think a parade celebrating Asian Pride would be far more fulfilling and viewer friendly.

I am envisioning our dear friends and neighbors of Asian descent marching along University Avenue (or any local main street) dressed in their colorful native garb accompanied by a small number of floats.

The floats could include cultural themes like a Taiko drum ensemble, a martial arts demonstration, and perhaps another one carrying parade princesses of various Asian ethnicities waving to the crowd. Local Asian stores like 99 Ranch and others might also have floats to promote their businesses.

It would be something along the lines of a cross between San Francisco's Gay Pride and Chinese New Year's parades but smaller.


Bystander
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Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 28, 2021 at 8:23 am
Bystander, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 8:23 am

I am very pleased to see that there are now some wonderful supportive comments here. We are a community that cares!


ashley johnson
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Professorville
on Mar 28, 2021 at 8:44 am
ashley johnson, Professorville
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 8:44 am

@ "We are a community that cares!"

Last evening we were explaining the 'Get To Know An Asian' concept to our 4-year old daughter and she blurted out, "I want to adopt an Asian!"

It was so cute.


laurian
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Mountain View
on Mar 28, 2021 at 10:09 am
laurian, Mountain View
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 10:09 am

✓an Asian Awareness potluck dinner where our friends (including a very nice Asian couple) can all get together and socialize while partaking in various Asian cuisines.

A marvelous idea!

I came across this URL from Sunset Magazine and it details how to coordinate a successful Asian-themed dinner gathering that will wow your guests.

Web Link

It's an 'Asian Occasion' that everyone can enjoy being a part of and the article (which was written by a Chinese chef) also mentions having a mah-jong gameboard handy as well.

I understand that it is a very popular game in China.


Mary Siemans
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Greenmeadow
on Mar 28, 2021 at 10:32 am
Mary Siemans, Greenmeadow
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 10:32 am

*...having a mah-jong gameboard handy as well.

I understand that it is a very popular game in China.

^^ We have been to China (both Taiwan and the PRC) and not everyone plays mah-jong although it is very popular.

Kind of like assuming Americans all play dominoes. Some do, while others don't.

My suggestion...you can rent Flower Drum Song from Amazon and have it readily available for viewing on your big screen TV.

It is a musical by Rogers and Hammerstein with an all-Asian cast that depicts immigrant Chinese adapting to life in America. I believe the story takes place in Los Angeles.


Kendra Beckham
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Duveneck/St. Francis
on Mar 28, 2021 at 1:10 pm
Kendra Beckham, Duveneck/St. Francis
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 1:10 pm

Regarding an 'Asian Occasion' dinner gathering...

It is my understanding that one of the key ingredients to Asian cooking is a liberal use of MSG as a flavor enhancer.

While MSG is a health concern in my family, I most certainly do not want to offend the palates and epicurean sensitivities of our invited Asian guests by not including it in our prepared dishes.

Is there a substitute (i.e. additional salt) or should I stick with the tried & true?

At a Japanese grocery stores (Nijiya) there is also a Japanese version called Ajinomoto which I am told is the same ingredient but marketed under a different name.

The reason for my concern is that I once used Prego as a base marinara and one of our Italian guests (from Italy) later remarked that she could tell there were not any vine-ripened tomatos in my prepared sauce.

I imagine that most Asian diners are also very particular about their native cuisine and given the recent hate-driven hostilities as reported in the news, I would like to do my very best to make them feel comfortable and at home as it
is the least we can do in conveying our warmest cordialities and welcomings.


Thuy Ng
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 2:16 pm
Thuy Ng, another community
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 2:16 pm

No need to protest or march...just enjoy eating Chinese food with white friends.

This exemplary outpouring of community compassion and understanding speaks volumes.


Binh Chau
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 2:31 pm
Binh Chau, another community
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 2:31 pm

*No need to protest or march...just enjoy eating Chinese food with white friends.

Yes...hate crimes can be prosecuted in food court.


Sally Montenegro
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University South
on Mar 28, 2021 at 5:07 pm
Sally Montenegro, University South
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 5:07 pm

For our Asian Occasion gathering, we are going to keep things simple.

We are planning to prepare Chinese Pizza (recipe enclosed), along with a Chinese Chicken Salad for our honored guests.

The pizza is vegan and there will be chicken in the salad so all of the bases are covered.

Asians as a rule do not consume as much meat as typical Americans which might explain why they are so svelte.

For dessert, maybe liche nut ice cream and fortune cookies!

Web Link


Arlene Brooks
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Professorville
on Mar 28, 2021 at 7:29 pm
Arlene Brooks, Professorville
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on Mar 28, 2021 at 7:29 pm

@ Me 2/Old Palo Alto...

> to quote Bystander of another Palo Alto community:

• "I am very pleased to see that there are now some wonderful supportive comments here. We are a community that cares!"

^^ And that heartfelt support is blossoming...can you not feel the LOVE?


> Me 2 of Old Palo Alto comments:

• "It's offensive that you think this virtue signaling does anything more than make you feel better about yourself."

^^ And I beg to differ...it is not about personal vanities. These heartfelt and sincere humanitarian gestures emanate from individual commitments towards ending hatred and to make all of our Asian acquaintances feel more at home and welcome in their adoptive country.

That said...may the lanterns of enlightenment remain forever illuminated and may we always cherish the friendships and culinary adventures the Asian people have bestowed upon us!


Bui Von
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 7:37 am
Bui Von, another community
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 7:37 am

@...can you not feel the LOVE?

Just ask any Asian currently being verbally harassed or attacked by racist bigots.


@ These heartfelt and sincere humanitarian gestures emanate from individual commitments towards ending hatred and to make all of our Asian acquaintances feel more at home and welcome in their adoptive country.

This is too vague of an assumption so let's just light some Asian-themed lanterns and eat Chinese food to showcase our comittment to ethnic diversity?

Seriously?

What about the Asians who were born in this country and are already U.S. citizens?

FYI...there are many Asians whose families have been here for multiple generations.

Meanwhile, let's just release the pause button and return to the Flower Drum Song.


Luwanda Williams
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East Palo Alto
on Mar 29, 2021 at 8:06 am
Luwanda Williams, East Palo Alto
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 8:06 am

Gee, if all of the nice white-middle class folks simply planned a sumptuous dinner gathering consisting of fried chicken, smoked ribs, and collard greens with sweet potato pie for dessert and then invited a token black family over to join them, there would be no more racial strife between black people and white people in this country!

Maybe even hang a few lanterns shaped like watermelons to make the event even more festive and bright.


Devon Lane
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 10:00 am
Devon Lane, Los Altos
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 10:00 am

> "These heartfelt and sincere humanitarian gestures emanate from individual commitments towards ending hatred...may the lanterns of enlightenment remain forever illuminated..."

Hmm...OK, but chances are it's gonna take more than sharing a communal Asian dinner and watching an old musical to address and resolve this issue.

The Native Americans once had a sit-down dinner with the Pilgrims and look how things eventually turned out.

Of note...

do-gooder
noun [ C ] disapproving
UK /ˈduː.ɡʊd.ər/ US /ˈduː.ɡʊd.ɚ/

someone who does things that they think will help other people, although the other people might not find their actions helpful

source: The Cambridge Dictionary


lenora koo
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Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 29, 2021 at 11:58 am
lenora koo, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 11:58 am

Incredible. Asians are getting harassed and physically assaulted while various upper middle-class mothers in Palo Alto are advocating hosting Asian dinner parties and having their children paint paper lanterns to show their support of the Asian community.

Is this a bad dream or what?

And the 'cute' little four-year old (presumably white) exclaiming, "I want to adopt an Asian" is akin to a child asking for a dog.

It's not the child's fault but the parents for not clarifying matters. But then again, they were probably too preoccupied planning their upcoming Asian Occasion dinner party.

So meanwhile, "Let's get to know an Asian" and show our true colors.


Denton H.
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Menlo Park
on Mar 29, 2021 at 1:48 pm
Denton H., Menlo Park
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 1:48 pm

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Bystander
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 2:52 pm
Bystander, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
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Some of these posts with ideas may seem patronizing, but at least they are supportive and that has to be a good things.

Perhaps people in the Asian community could suggest what they would like to be done to be made feel welcome and supported. Myself I think there is much more than one "Asian community" as people living among us are from various different countries and cultures. They are all just our neighbors, our friends, our community members and part of who Palo Altans represent. I am told that there are over 20 different languages spoken at home by the children in our schools. I am amazed at the various different ethnic foods taken to International Potluck dinners in our schools, many are not the typical dishes seen on local menus.

Looking at the neighbors in my own street, there are people from all over the world living here. Many are of Asian descent and many are of other descents. Many Asians I know here are 2nd or 3rd generation, unable to speak the language of their roots but may be able to understand some spoken language to varying extents. I would go as far as to say that it is almost impossible to go about our daily errands (at least in normal times) without finding people from all ethnicities in our businesses, our stores, our banks,our schools, and our work places, etc. Saying "get to know an Asian" is a little silly since presumably most of us know a great many Asians anyway.

I am of the opinion that too much tribalization does more harm than good. We are a melting pot and stronger for it. Those who choose to pick on anyone for any reason are by far the minority, albeit things like thefts particularly of bicycles, Amazon packages and catalytic converters are increasing, although of course some terrible attacks have taken place over the past months.




Reggie Tolson
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East Palo Alto
on Mar 29, 2021 at 4:09 pm
Reggie Tolson, East Palo Alto
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 4:09 pm
Barry Cain
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 5:06 pm
Barry Cain, Mountain View
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 5:06 pm

√ Simple solution. Mandatory LIFETIME IMPRISONMENT for anyone convicted of a hate crime, police brutality, and/or sexual assault.


Finally, a cut and dried deterrent and societal solution to these horrible crimes.

Round these criminals up and upon conviction in a court of law, lock them up permanently and just throw away the keys.

No discrimination involved, only justice.


eileen
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College Terrace
on Mar 29, 2021 at 9:19 pm
eileen , College Terrace
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 9:19 pm

lenora koo, your remarks above really do not help bridge the gap. I'll just ignore you going forward.


Me 2
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Old Palo Alto
on Mar 29, 2021 at 11:12 pm
Me 2, Old Palo Alto
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on Mar 29, 2021 at 11:12 pm

This Asian Pride through lanterns and food nonsense (I'd prefer to use a stronger word) is making me sick. I don't find it supportive at all. You think that eating mutton and camel would show support for the oppressed Uyghur population in Xinjiang?

Back to reality. This happened today.

Web Link

Also, a story from 2010, when Obama was President.

Web Link

This is not just a white supremacy issue.


Jenny Rafferty
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Professorville
on Mar 30, 2021 at 1:11 am
Jenny Rafferty, Professorville
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 1:11 am
Naz Bajar
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 7:33 am
Naz Bajar, another community
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 7:33 am
Heloise T.
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Crescent Park
on Mar 30, 2021 at 7:52 am
Heloise T., Crescent Park
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 7:52 am
Arielle Hartman
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Stanford
on Mar 30, 2021 at 8:51 am
Arielle Hartman, Stanford
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 8:51 am

Awhile back I inherited some older imported rugs from a great aunt who had purchased them in Turkey during the last days of the Ottoman Empire.

I was told that there are now two distinct designations: pre-Asian & Asian.

The pre-Asian designation is for older carpets made before the term Oriental was being discouraged. They are worth far more to a collector but it oftentimes requires a skilled eye to differentiate a pre VS more recently made Asian carpet, scrutinizing things like traditional stitch count, knotting, natural fading of dyes etc.

Some of the more modern ones are being produced via slave labor in southern Chinese provinces by skilled craftspersons whose families have been making them for thousands of years.

The weavers receive little in remuneration but the rugs still go for thousands of dollars in America and Europe.

And many of these craftspersons still travel by camel. Fascinating.


Jerry Matthews
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Old Palo Alto
on Mar 30, 2021 at 10:07 am
Jerry Matthews, Old Palo Alto
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 10:07 am

"...in southern Chinese provinces...And many of these craftspersons still travel by camel."

- I have been to Hong Kong (which is one of the southernmost regions of China) and I have never seen a Chinese person riding a camel either on the freeways or in the metropolitan area.

Most ride bicycles or drive automobiles and there is a very modern public transit system available.

Is there a designated traffic zone that allows for this specific mode of transportation?


betty dickinson
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 10:41 am
betty dickinson, Community Center
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 10:41 am

>> I have been to Hong Kong (which is one of the southernmost regions of China) and I have never seen a Chinese person riding a camel..."

Maybe in the more rural areas of the city? Hong Kong is a major financial and manufacturing center so I imagine it would have to be somewhere on the outskirts of the metropolis.


Avery Gelson Ph.D
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 2:34 pm
Avery Gelson Ph.D, another community
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 2:34 pm

As a global naturalist who has devoted much of his academic career to the study of dromedary (two humped) camels, the Bactrian Camel is indigenous to lower Mongolia in the Gobi Desert where they are prized for both transportation and as a source of meat protein.

They are capable of covering great distances with minimal need for water and have been sighted in lower China most notably the region commonly known as Kazakistan.

These camels are not commonly used for mass transportation in Hong Kong but there are always exceptions as the DMV statutes in China differ from those in America.

That said, I am curious as to why Chinese camels have entered the conversation regarding hate crimes against Asians in America.

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Justin
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Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 30, 2021 at 4:49 pm
Justin, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 4:49 pm

One area being overlooked in this discussion is the plight of transgender Asians who face not only ostracism from the general public but also disavowance from their own families.

I am a transgender Asian male and I have been both disinherited and foresaken by my family as my personal leanings constitute a source of shame and embarrassment to them.

Societal hate crimes based on ethnicity are bad enough but I have two strikes against me and I will persevere because that is all that I can do.


eileen
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College Terrace
on Mar 30, 2021 at 9:55 pm
eileen , College Terrace
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on Mar 30, 2021 at 9:55 pm

Justin, I really am wishing the best for you. It is so sad to hear that your family can not accept you for who you choose to be. You seem by your post to be a strong and determined person. Hopefully, you are surrounded by good friends.


Vu Tran
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on Mar 31, 2021 at 10:52 am
Vu Tran, another community
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on Mar 31, 2021 at 10:52 am

Part of the problem is that Asians as a whole are not as vocal or demonstrative as the African American community when it comes to bringing race-related discrimination and hate crimes to further public awareness.

These crimes have been going on for a long time, perpetuated by those who either dismiss the various Asian ethnicities as passive and quiet, this perceived stereotype resulting in additional societal disrespect and random street thuggery by those who fear no retribution.

Things are gonna change because too many innocent people are suffering at the hands of this pervasive mindset.

The current crimes were triggered by racist pandemic allegations and whether they are being perpetuated by white supremacists or long festering conflicts between inner city blacks and various Asian storekeepers is immaterial.

The mass public awareness has finally been raised and now it is up to ALL of us to end the hate, the violence, and misinformed ethnocentric perceptions of ALL RESIDENTS currently living in America....regardless color, religion OR one's legal immigration status.

And let's end the persecution and discrimination of those in the LGBTQ community as well...which is primarily the product and mindset of sanctimonious conservative Christian dogma.


Christopher Phillips
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Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Mar 31, 2021 at 12:27 pm
Christopher Phillips, Leland Manor/Garland Drive
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on Mar 31, 2021 at 12:27 pm

Mysogyny and sexual-related hate crimes towards women (whether verbal or physical) should also be on the books and punishable by imprisonment and/or court-mandated chemical castration.

The recent Atlanta-area massacre was yet another blatant example of a hate crime, mysogyny, pseudo-Christian delusion, and mental illness.

Add to that lax gun control laws.

Fewer guns = fewer crimes AND unwarranted shootings by law enforcement.

Disarm the police as well except for special circumstances that require prior approval from the field supervisors/watch commanders.

Keep their weapons locked-up in the squad car and only accessible via a pre-authorized code.


Aron Bronski
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Greenmeadow
on Mar 31, 2021 at 3:10 pm
Aron Bronski, Greenmeadow
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on Mar 31, 2021 at 3:10 pm

>>Part of the problem is that Asians as a whole are not as vocal or demonstrative as the African American community when it comes to bringing race-related discrimination and hate crimes to further public awareness.


This is also true of the Jewish people who did not stand up to Hitler during the 1930s.

Stand tall Asian people and do not let the racists and haters (regardless of their color or background) terrorize your very existence.

Flash forward. Today no one messes with the nation of Israel because the Jewish people have learned (the hard way) to fight back and either difuse or destroy their enemies.

Asians need not take a back seat to persecution. Fight back and defend yourselves against bigotry and hatred.


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