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Pro-Trump business owner documented at Capitol rally faces backlash

Signs in support of Sugar Shack owner Suzi Tinsley are seen outside the shop after photos of Tinsley at President Trump's Washington. D.C. Jan. 6 rally surfaced online, in Menlo Park on Jan. 8. Photo by Elena Kadvany.

Some people are threatening a boycott of a Menlo Park business after it came to light that its owner attended a pro-Trump rally on Jan. 6 after which a mob violently invaded the U.S. Capitol.

The Almanac received several news tips showing a photo of Suzi Tinsley, owner of downtown Menlo Park business Sugar Shack, in a crowd of people near the Capitol building with what looks like a Trump flag tied around her shoulders and a red "Keep America Great" hat on her head, with two thumbs up. She is also shown not wearing a mask in the photo.

Tinsley has not responded to requests for comment.

According to NBC Bay Area, she issued a statement saying that she supports Trump and made the trip to D.C. to see his last appearance as president, but thought that the rally would be peaceful. When things got unruly, she was injured and left the scene to return to her hotel, the news station reported.

"Just like every other American, I watched in horror as the chaos unfolded on television. I couldn’t believe my eyes and remain appalled at what I saw," Tinsley said in a statement to NBC Bay Area.

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As a Trump supporter, Tinsley is in a political minority in San Mateo County, where about 78% of voters supported Joe Biden in the 2020 General Election. According to campaign finance record website Open Secrets, Tinsley donated $5,182 to Donald Trump's campaign between February and August 2020.

Tinsley ran Sugar Shack for seven years at 816 Santa Cruz Ave., between 2007 and 2014, when she closed it, before relaunching the business at 883 Santa Cruz Ave. in October 2019. The store is known for offering custom candy for private events as well as its popularity with pre-teens.

Initial community responses to the revelation of Tinsley's presence in D.C. Wednesday have been negative, with Tinsley's pro-Trump photo in circulation on social media bearing a message urging viewers to "Show that Menlo Park/the Bay Area doesn't tolerate this domestic act of terrorism and blatant display of white supremacy. Don't shop at sugar shack."

In addition, Yelp, the business review website, has temporarily disabled posting about the Sugar Shack in response to "unusual activity" from people commenting about recent events.

On Friday, the shop was closed and a TV network filmed a story. In the background, against the shop window, someone had placed yellow posters with messages of support, saying "God Bless Sugar Shack!" and "Keep Menlo Park a Loving Place."

Elena Kadvany and Charles Russo contributed to this report.

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Pro-Trump business owner documented at Capitol rally faces backlash

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Uploaded: Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 10:31 pm

Some people are threatening a boycott of a Menlo Park business after it came to light that its owner attended a pro-Trump rally on Jan. 6 after which a mob violently invaded the U.S. Capitol.

The Almanac received several news tips showing a photo of Suzi Tinsley, owner of downtown Menlo Park business Sugar Shack, in a crowd of people near the Capitol building with what looks like a Trump flag tied around her shoulders and a red "Keep America Great" hat on her head, with two thumbs up. She is also shown not wearing a mask in the photo.

Tinsley has not responded to requests for comment.

According to NBC Bay Area, she issued a statement saying that she supports Trump and made the trip to D.C. to see his last appearance as president, but thought that the rally would be peaceful. When things got unruly, she was injured and left the scene to return to her hotel, the news station reported.

"Just like every other American, I watched in horror as the chaos unfolded on television. I couldn’t believe my eyes and remain appalled at what I saw," Tinsley said in a statement to NBC Bay Area.

As a Trump supporter, Tinsley is in a political minority in San Mateo County, where about 78% of voters supported Joe Biden in the 2020 General Election. According to campaign finance record website Open Secrets, Tinsley donated $5,182 to Donald Trump's campaign between February and August 2020.

Tinsley ran Sugar Shack for seven years at 816 Santa Cruz Ave., between 2007 and 2014, when she closed it, before relaunching the business at 883 Santa Cruz Ave. in October 2019. The store is known for offering custom candy for private events as well as its popularity with pre-teens.

Initial community responses to the revelation of Tinsley's presence in D.C. Wednesday have been negative, with Tinsley's pro-Trump photo in circulation on social media bearing a message urging viewers to "Show that Menlo Park/the Bay Area doesn't tolerate this domestic act of terrorism and blatant display of white supremacy. Don't shop at sugar shack."

In addition, Yelp, the business review website, has temporarily disabled posting about the Sugar Shack in response to "unusual activity" from people commenting about recent events.

On Friday, the shop was closed and a TV network filmed a story. In the background, against the shop window, someone had placed yellow posters with messages of support, saying "God Bless Sugar Shack!" and "Keep Menlo Park a Loving Place."

Elena Kadvany and Charles Russo contributed to this report.

Comments

YP
Registered user
Crescent Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 8:28 am
YP, Crescent Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 8:28 am

Disappointing that Palo Alto Online has to make this a prominent story further stirring the pot. But I'm not surprised given the liberal, woke bias of the staff.
If people aren't allowed to go to rallies because they fear retribution our country is in sad shape. She had no role in the violence. Just as thousands of peaceful people participated in BLM protests that latter turned to vandalism , she shouldn't be called out or punished for the acts of others.


Martha Dogood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2021 at 11:48 am
Martha Dogood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 11:48 am

Henry Shane is an example of young activists that are really bullies and act very irresponsibly and are very unAmerican in their behavior. As the poster above states, let us all remember how many thousands of peaceful Americans participated in hundreds of BLM protests that turned into violent riots, many also infiltrated by antifa.

Please let us all take a breath and remind ourselves what it means to be a true American: be respectful of each others constitutional rights and never bully people. Keep it together, be a civilized person. If you don’t agree with someone’s political views then either engage in civil debate if the other citizen wishes to dialogue, or mind your own business and engage in whatever peaceful political activity you wish, including voting. Don’t go out of your way to try and cause harm to an innocent person. That’s very wrong.

What are we coming to when a community leader and lovely person such as Mrs. Suzi Tinsley is bullied and assaulted with words I can’t even believe I’m reading? I hope we can all say enough is enough, right here, right now. Don’t be a part of the race baiting, the hatred, the divisiveness, and certainly don’t become a fascist bully or persecutor of those with different political views.

I’m also a proud life long Republican and I also condemn the violent riot and assault on the Capitol. I also condemn all the violence that occurred over the past year at the many riots that burned and destroyed so many small businesses across the country. The fact is folks, we have extremists on both the left and right in our country. We are also deeply divided between Dems and Republicans, we have very different views on best government policies. In order to move forward we need to come together as AMERICANS and reaffirm our fundamental shared core values: hard work, personal responsibility, and respect for each others Constitutional rights. We need to engage in only peaceful protests, and respectful government debates that result in constructive solutions.

We can get back to “normal” - which like any family can include its ups and downs, its falling outs and crisis points - we can move forward positively if we focus on what brings us together, not what tears us apart.

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Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 12:37 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 12:37 pm

"it’s only to say there were extremists on both sides that participated in the riot at the Capitol."

This false equivalency is a flawed defense.

There is no evidence to back up this claim and I certainly didn't see any black faces in the video coverage.


Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 12:47 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 12:47 pm

Trump was very clear that he wanted to overturn a lawful election that had been certified by all fifty states.

IMHO that is an assault on our democracy and anyone supporting such a position is, at best, demonstrating poor judgement.

The participants cannot argue that they did not know that there would be violence. Here was what was posted:

"You can go to Washington on Jan 6 and help storm the Capital" said one 8kun user a day before the siege."As may patriots as can be. We will storm the government buildings, kill cops, kill security guards, kill federal employees and agents, and demand a recount."

Web Link

Just in case anyone is considering going to the Jan 20 "protest" rallies please be warned:

"Calls for widespread protests on the days leading up to the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden have been rampant online for weeks. These demonstrations are scheduled to culminate with what organizers have dubbed a “Million Militia March” on Jan. 20 as Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala D. Harris are to be sworn in on the same Capitol grounds that rioters overran on Wednesday.

As with the online chatter ahead of that assault on the Capitol, these calls to action have bristled with violent talk and vows to bring guns to Washington in defiance of the city’s strict weapons laws. "


Web Link

(via NBC News):

In the wake of Wednesday’s riot at the Capitol, Trump supporters with extremist views feel emboldened and are vowing to return to Washington for the upcoming inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden on January 20, using online platforms to rally each other.

“Many of Us will return on January 19, 2021, carrying Our weapons, in support of Our nation's resolve, towhich [sic] the world will never forget!!! We will come in numbers that no standing army or police agency can match,” wrote a popular Parler user who frequently posts about QAnon, and is being tracked by the Anti-Defamation League.

Parler, Telegram chat rooms and the platform TheDonald.win were all used to plan and coordinate the Jan. 6 rally that turned into a riot. Posters explicitly stated their intentions to “occupy” the Capitol. QAnon conspiracy theorists and people associated with militia groups had a visible presence in Wednesday’s crowd.

“Round 2 on January 20th. This time no mercy. I don’t even care about keeping Trump in power. I care about war,” an anonymous person posted on the platform TheDonald.win, which is filled with comments posted by people who lauded those who rioted Wednesday as “heroes.”


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My charge is the she has consistently enabled Trump by her presence and financial support in spite of, in my opinion, clear evidence that Trump is endeavoring to overthrow a properly certified election in which he lost.

Ms. Tinsley is certainly free to post on this Forum explain why she did what she did and refuting any false claims made against her.

I would welcome her participation in this dialogue.


TimR
Registered user
Downtown North
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:02 pm
TimR, Downtown North
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:02 pm

Boycotts of a business are perfectly legal. But violence and threats of violence for political reasons is classic terrorism, and I sure hope this story doesn't encourage such terrorism. If it does, "Palo Alto Online" will be partly culpable, and may of to ban itself from the internet.


Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:17 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:17 pm

If there are any attempts to physically attack this business I am certain that the MP PD will do a superb job of providing protection and I would personally stand side-by-side with others to confront anyone who makes such a threat.

And the Weekly's reporting on this story and facilitating this discussion would bear NO culpability if individuals engage in violence.


Martha Dogood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:19 pm
Martha Dogood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:19 pm

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Remember, way over 100,000 fellow Americans attended that rally who are very responsible and law abiding citizens. Some got close to the Capitol, didn’t trespass it tho, and saw trouble starting in distance. They saw crazy stuff starting and left, went back to their hotels. Less than 1% of those attendees participated in the riot.

Once again, I don’t make any excuses for the right wing extremist morons that assaulted our Capitol. Every person that stormed our Capitol violently needs to be brought to justice.

My main point is that we must all agree there are extremists on both left and right in our country today who are causing serious damage. We Republicans did not lump any of our Democrat friends or associates in with the violent Antifa or blm agitators this past year. It’s not right if Democrats lump all of the Republicans in one bucket with those crazy rioters.

Martha


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:23 pm
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:23 pm
Martha Dogood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:37 pm
Martha Dogood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:37 pm

Also, to those saying anyone at the rally was a law breaker, you are very wrong to talk that way. We have a right to peacefully protest whatever we want in our still almost FREE country.

There are tens of millions of Americans, over 74 million voted for Trump, who believe the presidential election was deeply flawed [Portion removed.]

God help our country get through this crisis in one piece! I for one pray we focus on coming together as Americans like after 9/11. Focus on what unites us, don’t focus on the hatred or anything that divides us. Don’t let the haters tear us apart and destroy it.

Finally, you can bet China, Russia, Iran, and other enemies of America are absolutely involved in the background, fanning these flames. Only we AMERICANS in the big center have the ability to stop a disaster. It begins with leaving Mrs. Tinsley alone and not engaging in any political persecution or fascist pogroms.

Martha


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:49 pm
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:49 pm

[Portion removed.] There hasn't been even one proven case of election fraud. Actually, each time votes were recounted, all in battleground states controlled by republican legislators, President Elect Biden's margin of victory had increased.

The Homeland Security official, a Trump appointee in charge of cyber security, said that was the safest, most secure and most free of fraud election in US history, and got fired immediately by the coup instigator.

The reason tens of millions of Americans believe the elections were stolen without one shred of evidence is because they are a mindless cult followers who have been brainwashed by a despicable demagogue who could care less about them.

They are supporting a coup attempt and an attack on the Constitution, aka treason.


Hinrich
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:55 pm
Hinrich, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 1:55 pm

PAO is doxing Susie. There is no justification for this. Any American should be free (that means not publicly humiliated by the hometown newspaper hoping people will cancel her) for supporting anyone they wish for public office. What's going on here? Shame on PAO and any of the posters who don't know our history and don't stand up the rights for good citizens like Susie that we all share, that too many have fought and died for, that we each want for ourselves and our children.


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 10, 2021 at 2:33 pm
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 2:33 pm

Only in the fevered demented mentality of the MAGAs, should a supporter of a traitor with blood on his hands, who incited a rebellion against his own government be considered a "good citizen".

Every American should read the book 'Hitler's Willing Executioners" by Daniel Goldhagen in order to learn what happens when citizens enable horrible immoral leaders like Trump and Hitler.


Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 2:38 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 2:38 pm

Hinric - the right of free speech does not mean that we cannot be questioned about and held accountable for statements that we make.

Free speech does not mean freedom from its consequences.


AlexDeLarge
Registered user
Midtown
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:09 pm
AlexDeLarge, Midtown
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:09 pm

Oh my, there's a Republican in our righteous liberal midths, shocking, how dare she? Well, in the meantime California rapidly declines into a one party driven hell hole. A Newsomville is just around the corner. In the words of Gavin himself; "It's coming whether you like it, or not".


Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:11 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:11 pm

After sixty years as a member of the Republican Party I changed my registration and formally left that party in 2020.

To remain a Republican at this time is to be an enabler.


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:40 pm
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:40 pm
Hinrich
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:45 pm
Hinrich, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:45 pm

I did hear that someone on the West coast had left - we'll certainly miss you. I am deeply ashamed of those who stormed the Capitol and I was deeply ashamed by the rioters looting in NYC, assaulting police officers in too many places, and generally the rhetoric of extremists on both sides that continue to divide us. I'm a Republican but not rigidly so. I am appalled by the grip 'woke' has on our young. Not to mention the elevation of race as a crusade further dividing us (we should just remember the golden rule and remember that mlk wanted to be judged as a human, not as a skin color). I worry that our shared culture is being disassembled on campus, in the media and amongst ourselves. But, still, I value those on both sides
We must learn new respect for each other just as we need to remember our respect for Suzie's rights as one of all of us.


Martha Dogood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:58 pm
Martha Dogood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 3:58 pm

No Peter, you are wrong. It’s very wrong of you to label me as an “enabler” of anything violent that happened on January 6th. Just as I don’t blame Mauricio or you for “enabling” the killing of the security guard in Oakland in wake of blm riots this past summer, or any of the leftwing perpetrated violence of 2020.

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It’s time to stop this anti American rhetoric of calling all Trump supporters fascists, nazis or racists. There are over 74 million Americans who voted for President Trump. There are extremists on right and left in USA, you must at least acknowledge this fact.

BTW Mauricio, my in-laws family and my own family fought hard against the Nazis and Japanese fascists in the 1940s, one of whom died from war wounds. One of my ancestors nearly died in a confederate prison camp after over 4 years of active duty fighting in over a dozen civil war battles for the Union, helping to free the slaves. Many other ancestors fought and died in the American Revolution, which made your freedom to call me a Nazi possible. Shame on you sir for using such language with your fellow Americans. Enough! Try to be a civil American.

Also, don’t ever forget, if you want to talk about treason and sedition, from our perspective we believe the illegal russia hoax investigation and the unwarranted impeachment, and all the rest of the wrongful persecution of President Trump and his supporters, was that as well. The Dems attacked him and his supporters from day one and tried many efforts to wrongly remove him from office. How is that not a coup attempt?

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Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:07 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:07 pm

"No Peter, you are wrong. It’s very wrong of you to label me as an “enabler”

But, sadly, Martha you are an enabler because you have stood silent while this President has worked to destroy our democracy. The "reports and the affidavits" were ALL dismissed by the courts including by Trump appointed judges. You are an enabler because you continue to support the Republican Party which has refused to restrain Trump. [Portion removed.]
Sadly you are not alone.

Read Erich Fromm's Escape from Freedom and then look in the mirror.

You be your own judge.


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:37 pm
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:37 pm

All the "sworn affidavits' on "election irregularities" have been dismissed as fraudulent, usually by Republican officials, since they referred to battleground states controlled by republican legislative bodies. The witnesses idiots like Rudy Giuliani used have been exposed as racist weirdoes with zero credibility. Mostly Trump appointed judges dismissed every claim of the non existence "irregularities". They were all on the level of the earth is flat, last night I saw a UFO offloading a bunch of little green men, total rubbish. It's like claiming your neighbor is a rapist while being unable to show any proof your accusation has any merit.

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MVresident2003
Mountain View

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on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:46 pm
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Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:55 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:55 pm

My advice to my many good and respected friends in the California Republican Party is become an Independent, perhaps as a member of Tom Campbell's new Common Sense (centrist) Party.

The California Republican Party had the chance to disavow Trump but they stood silent. The California Republican Party platform now is one of desperate survival based not on expanding its base but by voter suppression. As Georgia has shown that tactic will no longer work.

My good friends - GET OUT.


Martha Dogood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:57 pm
Martha Dogood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 4:57 pm
Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 5:00 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 5:00 pm
Jennifer
Registered user
another community
on Jan 10, 2021 at 5:28 pm
Jennifer, another community
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 5:28 pm

There are deep flaws within the Democratic and Republican parties. It's the reason so many Americans are Independents. And just because one person left a party doesn't mean everyone else should. It's none of your business what party anyone is, nor is it anyone's business who you vote for.


Online Name
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 10, 2021 at 6:12 pm
Online Name, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 6:12 pm

This is the result of 30 years of brainwashing by Fox News so we live in information silos and can no longer discuss things civilly. Trump has pilloried the media, Kelly Ann coined the term "alternate facts" -- like the "alternate fact" that Russia was not cyberhacking us or interfering in elections. But there's no denying that Trump incited the riots and told them to "be there, It'll be wild" and he still hasn't lowed the flags to half-mast for the cop the "protestors" killed.

Who coined the term "anti-fa" and why? Remember we fought the fascists and the Nazi's in WWII. But check out the neo-Nazi tee shirts at the riot, including those with initials standing for 6 Million Wasn't Enough and Trump calling them "very fine people." Why is antifascim -- the real fight against fascism -- suddenly bad?

Listen to the great commentary from Bill Moyers, Dan Rather -- respected sources pre-information silos -- and most recently Arnold Schwarzenegger comparing the insurrection to Kristallnacht

Web Link


Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 6:22 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 6:22 pm

Jennifer - If I see a friend in a position of moral hazard I have an obligation to warn them and to encourage them to move.

The Republican Party is supporting a President who, in my opinion, is engaged in sedition.

Members of the Republican Party are, in my opinion, complicit.

Silence is approval.


Peter Carpenter
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Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:05 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
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on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:05 pm

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Peter Carpenter
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on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:08 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
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on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:08 pm

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Peter Carpenter
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Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:14 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
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Peter Carpenter
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on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:22 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
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on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:22 pm

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Martha Dogood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:34 pm
Martha Dogood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:34 pm

[Portion removed.]

1) The Republican Party is not going away, in fact we have grown our base and support in the past 4 years, in fact we just won so many House seats that we narrowed the Democrat majority significantly.

2) More Latinos, African Americans and Asians have joined the Republican Party in the past four years than in the past 20, many of them in the under $100,000 annual income groups, along with small biz entrepreneurs. We have grown our party and will continue to do so.

3) As a very active member of the Republican Party, I can assure you our future is not just bright, we are in fact the last remaining light of freedom for Americans, we stand between you and a totalitarian state with close ties to the CCP in China. This week demonstrates how close we are to this with the frontal attack on free speech.

4) Jennifer mentioned there are “deep flaws” in both Democrat and Republican Parties. Yes of course nothing is perfect in life. No organization is without bad apples and risks of corruption. Sadly many Americans have left both parties and disengaged with politics and civic activity, disgusted by so many things. As my GOP Chair often says: those who show up control government. Most Republicans tend to be libertarian leaning, “leave me alone in my freedom” people, many of them stopped being active locally or left the party. Those people conveniently complain on the sidelines, giving away the control of government to those that show up. As Reagan said, freedom isn’t passed to our children in the bloodstream, it’s for every generation to fight for it.

5) I make no apologies for sticking with GOP, and do my best to be a voice of moderation, reason, and rational policy as 99.9% of those I know in GOP do as well. We all stand for core values: hard work, personal responsibility, free enterprise markets, small/efficient government, maximum opportunity for maximum number of people no matter their ethnic background, law and order, mutual respect for all Americans, support Constitution,etc.

We all condemn the violent assault on our Capitol just as we condemned all the riots by blm and antifa all last year. That crazy group that stormed the Capitol did NOT represent our GOP. They were extremists and anarchists.

6) Let me remind Mauricio and Peter: the KKK was founded by Democrats and Jim Crow laws, all created and perpetrated by Democrats. It’s a good thing my Great-great grandfather, along with hundreds of thousands of other young men put their lives on the line to free the slaves and help end that sad chapter in American history. I’ll remind you that effort was led by the Republican Party and President Abraham Lincoln.

The Republican Party has a long and proud history. We will continue to grow since we represent freedom, free speech, the best of American values that focus on what unites us, not what divides us.

I realize you two are only able to speak disparagingly about the GOP and citizens like me who work hard to help our country be a better place.

[Portion removed.]

If you are able, it would be far better to discuss actual policy differences between Democrats and Republicans and how we can return to civil discussions about best solutions to move America into the future with gentleness, kindness and strength.

Martha


Peter Carpenter
Registered user
Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:40 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:40 pm

"If you are able, it would be far better to discuss actual policy differences between Democrats and Republicans and how we can return to civil discussions about best solutions to move America into the future with gentleness, kindness and strength."

Great idea.

Let's start with the concept of empowering every citizen to vote.

My thoughts:
The Democratic Party is working hard to make sure that happens.

The Republican Party is working hard to disenfranchise as many non-white voters as it can.

Your thoughts?


Peter Carpenter
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Menlo Park
on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:57 pm
Peter Carpenter, Menlo Park
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on Jan 10, 2021 at 7:57 pm
Online Name
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 10, 2021 at 8:26 pm
Online Name, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Jan 10, 2021 at 8:26 pm

Martha, if you're an active leader/member of the GOP, let me urge you to tell your fellows to stop threatening lawmakers in airports, threatening the safety of their families if they don't vote a certain way -- like overturning elections -- and threatening the local Democratic parties.

They threatened passengers and the safety of people on flights home from DC. Flights were diverted, unruly passengers have been banned from airlines. Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham were recently threatened in airports, several GOP REPS reported they voted to question the election results BECAUSE of threats to their families and Chuck Grassley, a leading Republican, had to beg the "locals" to stop threatening their local Democratic politicians. Pence is being threatened.

We all remember the attempts to kidnap and possibly harm the Gov. of Michigan.

And look at the cache of weapons, zip ties, Molotov cocktails etc. found after the riot.

THAT's bullying. And it's got to stop.


Martha Dogood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:09 am
Martha Dogood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:09 am

To “Online Name” above: Once again, you are very wrong to make blanket accusations against the GOP regarding people behaving badly.

How about the anti Trump people that harassed me and my sister as we peacefully walked to the 2017 inauguration? We were nicely dressed, didn’t have any political clothing, hats or pins, yet just because we were walking towards the inauguration in Jan 2017 we were nearly attacked by left wing agitators. It was frightening.

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There are too many extremists on the left and right in USA today. We ought to all do our part to not fan these flames any further. Yet we also must realize all Democrats are not responsible for the bad behavior of leftwing extremists, and Vice versa. We condem all such violent behavior, as I have already.

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The best thing we can all do is to stop all the anger and hatred. No one should vent their anger at others just because they voted for Trump. Focus on having a civil conversation with a neighbor like me who you learn is a Republican, rather than spewing irrational hatred. If anyone wishes to discuss actual policy issues, and solutions to real problems, while thinking of each other as fellow Americans, respectfully, that would be a good start.


Local
Registered user
Stanford
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:13 am
Local, Stanford
Registered user
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:13 am

People that voted Trump in 2016 I can forgive - you did not know what you were voting for. But people that voted for Trump in 2020 were supporting a known racist, misogynist and potential dictator. If they were educated we should not forgive them - they knowingly supported evil.


Martha Dogood
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:26 am
Martha Dogood, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on Jan 11, 2021 at 12:26 am

Peter Carpenter, I’d be happy to express my opinions about voting systems, and ensuring all legal votes are counted. Actually Republicans received a record number of votes from our Americans of African ancestry communities, same for latinos and Asians. We also have many young new leaders with such diverse ancestry backgrounds from local to national office. We are more than delighted to see our base become more diverse with all freedom loving people from all walks of life.

I have more to provide in detail on this topic, yet I’m going to wrap this all up now here. I don’t want to add to this thread anymore. There’s too much anger, sarcasm and negativity. Take care, I wish for all my neighbors peace and love in your lives.


Me
Registered user
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 11, 2021 at 3:12 am
Me, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
Registered user
on Jan 11, 2021 at 3:12 am
mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jan 11, 2021 at 7:04 am
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on Jan 11, 2021 at 7:04 am

Present day GOP has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the party of Lincoln, only the name. It has flipped and become over the years the Old Confederacy Party-highly racist and xenophobic, embracing the absolute worst elements in US society [portion removed.]

Those who still support the GOP after the last four years should look in the mirror and realize what they are doing. Now they are truly out of excuses.


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