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As Stage 2 of reopening begins, county has more to do to meet state requirements

Data shows Santa Clara County meets some metrics to reopen economy — but lags on others

As the state inches toward reopening from the COVID-19 crisis, counties are working to meet the California Department of Public Health's criteria in order to further relax restrictions on businesses and public movement. For some counties, the progression will be easier than in others. Santa Clara County, with one of the state's largest populations, has a way to go, according to its data.

The logistics of doing adequate testing for the deadly coronavirus, tracing a multitude of contacts with people who tested positive (known as contact tracing), housing homeless individuals who are most vulnerable to the disease and meeting many other requirements have been hampered by a lack of resources and untold complexities, public health department and county staff have said.

Last week, the county Board of Supervisors and the board's Health and Hospital Committee pressed the Public Health Department and county management to better define their roadmap for reaching the state's criteria.

They reached one milestone on Monday, May 18, announcing the relaxation by six Bay Area counties and the city of Berkeley of some restrictions, which will now allow curbside sales by many retail businesses — Stage 2 of the state's plan. The Stage 2 reopening will start on Friday, May 22.

The forward momentum was helped by changes to the state's criteria, which California's leaders also announced on May 18. The new guidance revised the maximum number of positive cases within a 14-day period to be higher. Santa Clara County would not have made the state's metrics for Stage 2 reopening without the change, according to its data.

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This second stage of reopening is only one phase of the state's plan. The county is succeeding in some areas while lagging on other state requirements that would accelerate reopening. Here's how Santa Clara County is performing on the state's metrics.

Condition: Counties should have no more than 25 positive cases of COVID-19 per 100,000 residents within a 14-day period or show a positive test rate of less than 8%.

Condition met?: Yes.

With a population of 1.928 million residents, Santa Clara County had 194 positive cases in 14 days ending May 19, far less than the state's criteria of 25 cases maximum per 100,000 residents, which would be 482 cases. To date, the county has had 2,483 confirmed COVID-19 cases since the pandemic began, according to data posted Tuesday on the Santa Clara County Public Health Department's COVID-19 online dashboard.

Of those, 475 were cases in long-term care facilities such as skilled nursing, assisted living, board-and-care and congregate independent living.

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Previous to May 18, the state's reopening criteria required counties to have no more than 10 cases of COVID-19 per 100,000 people in the past 14 days, or 192 cases in Santa Clara County. The county would have just barely missed meeting this criteria if it was still in place.

Condition: Counties can reopen to Stage 2 if the number of hospitalizations for COVID-19 patients doesn't increase more than 5% over seven days. Smaller counties have to show fewer than 20 hospitalizations on any given day for two weeks.

Condition met?: Yes.

Santa Clara County had a 15.4% decrease in COVID-19 hospitalizations from May 12 through May 19, with 82 patients hospitalized with the virus compared to 97 hospitalizations on May 12.

Condition: Counties should be able to conduct 1.5 COVID-19 tests per 1,000 residents daily, which would mean 2,892 tests per day in Santa Clara County. Testing should be available for 75% of residents within a 30-minute drive in urban areas or 60-minute drive in rural areas.

Condition met?: No.

The county has only conducted about 1,200 to 1,300 tests per day, which doesn't meet the state's condition. The county has its own minimal goal of conducting 4,000 tests per day by May 31, with an ultimate goal of 13,000 to 15,000 per day to include those whom they consider high risk, Dr. Marty Fenstersheib, the new head of the COVID-19 testing task force told the Board of Supervisors Health and Hospital Committee on May 14. He said he is confident they will get to the 4,000-per-day goal by the end of the month, but reaching the larger target is harder. "Getting to that goal is going to take some time," he said.

Condition: Counties should have 15 contact tracers per 100,000 residents.

Condition met?: No.

The county is working to prepare more than 700 people for the contact-tracing unit and support team, a spokesman said on May 19. The county will need to employ 289 people to achieve the state's requirement. The county has not yet provided a date for when the contact tracing will ramp up.

Condition: Counties should be able to temporarily house at least 15% of county residents experiencing homelessness.

Condition met?: Unknown.

The county has 9,706 homeless individuals, according to its 2019 point-in-time count, a survey that takes place in the last 10 days of January.

The county, city of San Jose, and Continuum of Care (a consortium of service providers) have a partnership to help homeless people affected by the COVID-19 outbreak.

The county and city of San Jose added a total of 1,245 additional units/beds to their temporary shelter inventory, including 575 motel/hotel rooms across 10 sites in six cities (Gilroy, Milpitas, Morgan Hill, San Jose, Santa Clara and Sunnyvale); 250 beds in the Field Respite Center at the Santa Clara Convention Center for COVID-19 positive patients; and 420 temporary shelter beds in San Jose at Gateway Pavilion at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, a family shelter at Camden Community Center, and the San Jose Convention Center's Parkside Hall and South Hall as of May 12, according to the county's COVID-19 response website, but that is short of the 1,488 beds needed to meet the state's 15% requirement for temporary housing.

The county has provided temporary shelter to 1,110 homeless individuals, according to a spokesperson for the county's Emergency Operations Center. In addition, it has found permanent housing for 400 people.

Every known homeless person who has tested positive for COVID-19 has been given shelter, the county said.

Condition: Counties should be able to meet a surge of at least a 35% increase in hospital demand due to COVID-19 on top of the usual non-COVID-19 care needs.

Condition met?: Yes.

This is one metric where staff are confident of the county's success. On May 19, the county had 82 people hospitalized with COVID-19. A full 100% of the 1,231 surge hospital beds are available. The surge-capacity beds represent more than 100% of the usual hospital bed capacity. On May 19, 51.34% of acute hospital beds were available and 51.90% of intensive-care unit beds were still available. The county has 847 ventilators, 119 of which were in use, but its data doesn't state how many are being used by COVID-19 patients.

Condition: All skilled nursing facilities should have a two-week supply of personal protective equipment for workers and their own sources of such equipment other than state supplies, and county hospital facilities should have plans for how to ensure all clinical and nonclinical workers have personal protective equipment.

Condition met?: Partially.

County Executive Jeff Smith told supervisors on May 12 that the news is mixed. All 11 hospitals and clinics in the county have certified they have enough personal protective equipment at this time. By May 19, a county spokesman said most of the hospitals had committed to a 30-day supply. The county Public Health Department checks in weekly on the hospitals' supplies.

Skilled nursing facilities are a different matter. Not all have certified their personal equipment supply.

"How can I say this politely? Some of them have ignored our request," Smith told the Board of Supervisors on May 12. He said the county Emergency Operations Center would supply the skilled-nursing facilities, and staff is doing one-to-one outreach. Those numbers were still not available on May 19. A county spokesman said staff members are working on the personal protective equipment supply levels for skilled nursing facilities and are procuring additional supplies and distribution channels through donations and the state.

Editor's note: This story has been updated to reflect that the state is no longer requiring counties to report zero deaths in 14 days to move into Stage 2 of reopening.

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As Stage 2 of reopening begins, county has more to do to meet state requirements

Data shows Santa Clara County meets some metrics to reopen economy — but lags on others

by / Palo Alto Weekly

Uploaded: Wed, May 20, 2020, 9:55 am
Updated: Wed, May 20, 2020, 8:40 pm

As the state inches toward reopening from the COVID-19 crisis, counties are working to meet the California Department of Public Health's criteria in order to further relax restrictions on businesses and public movement. For some counties, the progression will be easier than in others. Santa Clara County, with one of the state's largest populations, has a way to go, according to its data.

The logistics of doing adequate testing for the deadly coronavirus, tracing a multitude of contacts with people who tested positive (known as contact tracing), housing homeless individuals who are most vulnerable to the disease and meeting many other requirements have been hampered by a lack of resources and untold complexities, public health department and county staff have said.

Last week, the county Board of Supervisors and the board's Health and Hospital Committee pressed the Public Health Department and county management to better define their roadmap for reaching the state's criteria.

They reached one milestone on Monday, May 18, announcing the relaxation by six Bay Area counties and the city of Berkeley of some restrictions, which will now allow curbside sales by many retail businesses — Stage 2 of the state's plan. The Stage 2 reopening will start on Friday, May 22.

The forward momentum was helped by changes to the state's criteria, which California's leaders also announced on May 18. The new guidance revised the maximum number of positive cases within a 14-day period to be higher. Santa Clara County would not have made the state's metrics for Stage 2 reopening without the change, according to its data.

This second stage of reopening is only one phase of the state's plan. The county is succeeding in some areas while lagging on other state requirements that would accelerate reopening. Here's how Santa Clara County is performing on the state's metrics.

Condition: Counties should have no more than 25 positive cases of COVID-19 per 100,000 residents within a 14-day period or show a positive test rate of less than 8%.

Condition met?: Yes.

With a population of 1.928 million residents, Santa Clara County had 194 positive cases in 14 days ending May 19, far less than the state's criteria of 25 cases maximum per 100,000 residents, which would be 482 cases. To date, the county has had 2,483 confirmed COVID-19 cases since the pandemic began, according to data posted Tuesday on the Santa Clara County Public Health Department's COVID-19 online dashboard.

Of those, 475 were cases in long-term care facilities such as skilled nursing, assisted living, board-and-care and congregate independent living.

Previous to May 18, the state's reopening criteria required counties to have no more than 10 cases of COVID-19 per 100,000 people in the past 14 days, or 192 cases in Santa Clara County. The county would have just barely missed meeting this criteria if it was still in place.

Condition: Counties can reopen to Stage 2 if the number of hospitalizations for COVID-19 patients doesn't increase more than 5% over seven days. Smaller counties have to show fewer than 20 hospitalizations on any given day for two weeks.

Condition met?: Yes.

Santa Clara County had a 15.4% decrease in COVID-19 hospitalizations from May 12 through May 19, with 82 patients hospitalized with the virus compared to 97 hospitalizations on May 12.

Condition: Counties should be able to conduct 1.5 COVID-19 tests per 1,000 residents daily, which would mean 2,892 tests per day in Santa Clara County. Testing should be available for 75% of residents within a 30-minute drive in urban areas or 60-minute drive in rural areas.

Condition met?: No.

The county has only conducted about 1,200 to 1,300 tests per day, which doesn't meet the state's condition. The county has its own minimal goal of conducting 4,000 tests per day by May 31, with an ultimate goal of 13,000 to 15,000 per day to include those whom they consider high risk, Dr. Marty Fenstersheib, the new head of the COVID-19 testing task force told the Board of Supervisors Health and Hospital Committee on May 14. He said he is confident they will get to the 4,000-per-day goal by the end of the month, but reaching the larger target is harder. "Getting to that goal is going to take some time," he said.

Condition: Counties should have 15 contact tracers per 100,000 residents.

Condition met?: No.

The county is working to prepare more than 700 people for the contact-tracing unit and support team, a spokesman said on May 19. The county will need to employ 289 people to achieve the state's requirement. The county has not yet provided a date for when the contact tracing will ramp up.

Condition: Counties should be able to temporarily house at least 15% of county residents experiencing homelessness.

Condition met?: Unknown.

The county has 9,706 homeless individuals, according to its 2019 point-in-time count, a survey that takes place in the last 10 days of January.

The county, city of San Jose, and Continuum of Care (a consortium of service providers) have a partnership to help homeless people affected by the COVID-19 outbreak.

The county and city of San Jose added a total of 1,245 additional units/beds to their temporary shelter inventory, including 575 motel/hotel rooms across 10 sites in six cities (Gilroy, Milpitas, Morgan Hill, San Jose, Santa Clara and Sunnyvale); 250 beds in the Field Respite Center at the Santa Clara Convention Center for COVID-19 positive patients; and 420 temporary shelter beds in San Jose at Gateway Pavilion at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, a family shelter at Camden Community Center, and the San Jose Convention Center's Parkside Hall and South Hall as of May 12, according to the county's COVID-19 response website, but that is short of the 1,488 beds needed to meet the state's 15% requirement for temporary housing.

The county has provided temporary shelter to 1,110 homeless individuals, according to a spokesperson for the county's Emergency Operations Center. In addition, it has found permanent housing for 400 people.

Every known homeless person who has tested positive for COVID-19 has been given shelter, the county said.

Condition: Counties should be able to meet a surge of at least a 35% increase in hospital demand due to COVID-19 on top of the usual non-COVID-19 care needs.

Condition met?: Yes.

This is one metric where staff are confident of the county's success. On May 19, the county had 82 people hospitalized with COVID-19. A full 100% of the 1,231 surge hospital beds are available. The surge-capacity beds represent more than 100% of the usual hospital bed capacity. On May 19, 51.34% of acute hospital beds were available and 51.90% of intensive-care unit beds were still available. The county has 847 ventilators, 119 of which were in use, but its data doesn't state how many are being used by COVID-19 patients.

Condition: All skilled nursing facilities should have a two-week supply of personal protective equipment for workers and their own sources of such equipment other than state supplies, and county hospital facilities should have plans for how to ensure all clinical and nonclinical workers have personal protective equipment.

Condition met?: Partially.

County Executive Jeff Smith told supervisors on May 12 that the news is mixed. All 11 hospitals and clinics in the county have certified they have enough personal protective equipment at this time. By May 19, a county spokesman said most of the hospitals had committed to a 30-day supply. The county Public Health Department checks in weekly on the hospitals' supplies.

Skilled nursing facilities are a different matter. Not all have certified their personal equipment supply.

"How can I say this politely? Some of them have ignored our request," Smith told the Board of Supervisors on May 12. He said the county Emergency Operations Center would supply the skilled-nursing facilities, and staff is doing one-to-one outreach. Those numbers were still not available on May 19. A county spokesman said staff members are working on the personal protective equipment supply levels for skilled nursing facilities and are procuring additional supplies and distribution channels through donations and the state.

Editor's note: This story has been updated to reflect that the state is no longer requiring counties to report zero deaths in 14 days to move into Stage 2 of reopening.

Find comprehensive coverage on the Midpeninsula's response to the new coronavirus by Palo Alto Online, the Mountain View Voice and the Almanac here.

Comments

Wuhan Jimmy
Barron Park
on May 20, 2020 at 10:09 am
Wuhan Jimmy, Barron Park
on May 20, 2020 at 10:09 am
44 people like this


I wish we had a republican governor like Texas does. There might be a bit more sanity in our reopening process.

Governing is about making trade-offs. Elected officials listen to various points of view (health, economic, social, etc.) and then make decisions. If people don’t like their decisions, they can vote them out. To whom are the unelected county health directors beholden to?


Zhao
Charleston Meadows
on May 20, 2020 at 10:18 am
Zhao, Charleston Meadows
on May 20, 2020 at 10:18 am
9 people like this

China has controlled COVID-19 and Disneyland in Shanghai has reopened with various public health mandates like maintaining proper spacing requirements.

Why can't Santa Clara County open Great America? It is a great venue for children to conglomerate and be entertained.

Besides, with the possible exception of the Kawasaki Syndrome (which there is no confirmed scientific correlation), children as a rule do not get coronavirus, only adults.

Adult supervision could be provided by Great America staff to avoid unwilling parents being forced to attend such a childish venue.

It could be like daycare.


Anonymous
another community
on May 20, 2020 at 10:49 am
Anonymous, another community
on May 20, 2020 at 10:49 am
49 people like this

@Wuhan Jimmy

The governor of Texas flat out said we should sacrifice parents and grandparents because they would willingly give up their lives for the economy, and that he would basically volunteer to die for the economy. Glad you agree with that approach. Hopefully you or those around you aren't above age 55-60, and if you are, great to hear that you wouldn't mind dying or killing off your parents right now to get things re-open. This is the mind set of the Texas governor. He does not care about saving lives at all.

Since Texas re-opened, their number of covid cases has been increasing. But the governor doesn't care. So what if people die.

I'm beyond grateful that we put safety first in California. I care about my family members and don't want anyone to die.


Anonymous
another community
on May 20, 2020 at 10:51 am
Anonymous, another community
on May 20, 2020 at 10:51 am
31 people like this

@ Zhao

I hope you are joking, right?

Children do get coronavirus and more importantly, they can easily spread it to their parents, grandparents, and anyone in the community (including young people who have health conditions like diabetes, or are immunocompromised).


Bob Gleason
Old Palo Alto
on May 20, 2020 at 10:59 am
Bob Gleason, Old Palo Alto
on May 20, 2020 at 10:59 am
11 people like this

Analysis paralysis .. why do we have elected leaders if all they do is build out a pro / con spreadsheet and wait for the green light to turn on. I am hoping the recent reluctant salary reduction will provide some incentive for making the more difficult decision rather than relinquishing to unelected healthcare professionals or AI algorithms.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 11:07 am
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 11:07 am
4 people like this

>> Condition: Counties should be able to conduct 1.5 COVID-19 tests per 1,000 residents daily, or about 2,892 tests per day, in Santa Clara County.
>> Condition met?: No.
>> The county has only conducted about 1,200 to 1,300 tests per day and has a minimal goal to conduct 4,000 tests per day by May 31

I'm confused by this. Isn't the minimal goal described 2892, not 4000? When will the 2892 goal be met?

>> Skilled nursing facilities are a different matter. Not all have certified their personal equipment supply.

>> "How can I say this politely? Some of them have ignored our request," Smith told the Board of Supervisors on May 12.

How about they publicize which SNFs are refusing to comply? Families should get their loved ones moved to a compliant facility ASAP.


Old and in the way
Downtown North
on May 20, 2020 at 11:46 am
Old and in the way, Downtown North
on May 20, 2020 at 11:46 am
16 people like this

I have wondered if all the conservative foot-dragging on maintaining safe conditions until infection and death rates decrease significantly is really a plot to clear out the Social Security generation, freeing up more money for subsidizing business cronies of our feckless leader. It just surprises me that so many people are up for this, but who needs the hard-won wisdom of the older generation, anyway? Who worries about children getting lifetime impairments from the still mostly unknown side effects of pediatric covid-19? Who cares if the underclass is disproportionately affected, leaving those who can least afford major health care needing more of it? People in a rush to go out and mingle will be the next wave of infections, and their families and associates will bear the brunt. Enjoy.


Messifan
Ventura
on May 20, 2020 at 11:47 am
Messifan, Ventura
on May 20, 2020 at 11:47 am
15 people like this

Let's talk about the "nos":
1. "Counties shouldn't report any deaths in the past 14 days." This was dropped by Newsom on Monday. Web Link. It also does not take into account county size. A county of like 2 million should be not compared to a border county with few people. Any cutoff should be based on rates.
2. "Counties should be able to conduct 1.5 COVID-19 tests per 1,000 residents daily, or about 2,892 tests per day, in Santa Clara County. Testing should be available for 75% of residents within a 30-minute drive in urban areas or 60-minute drive in rural areas." The number of tests needed assumes a much higher positivity rate than the 1-2% in SCC. Testing is approaching 2000 per day (Web Link). I assume we hit the distance threshold.
3. "Counties should have 15 contact tracers per 100,000 residents." The number of tracers available should be public info, but is not, so we don't know where we are. An article in the Merc a couple weeks ago said we could trace 75/day, much higher than needed now, and the state program to add tracers started a week or two ago so we should be able to scale up soon.

Overall, the county is in good shape as it is increasing testing and tracing in preparation for any growth in cases and current needs are being met.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 11:59 am
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 11:59 am
2 people like this

Posted by Messifan, a resident of Ventura

>> 3. "Counties should have 15 contact tracers per 100,000 residents." The number of tracers available should be public info, but is not, so we don't know where we are. An article in the Merc a couple weeks ago said we could trace 75/day, much higher than needed now, and the state program to add tracers started a week or two ago so we should be able to scale up soon.

For some reason there is much less publicity about the contact tracing capability. I'm not sure why. This seems to be the biggest gap in SCC.


Out of touch council
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 12:15 pm
Out of touch council, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 12:15 pm
29 people like this

Anon- hard to get any information from Cody. Just ask the supervisors. Sunday we were not ready to open said Cody. Monday we were said Cody.
I think she is just resting on her laurels and soaking in the misplaced praise for her.


coooper
another community
on May 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm
coooper, another community
on May 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm
2 people like this

Didn't Newsom change the "no deaths in 14 days"?
From today's L.A. Times:
Gov. Gavin Newsom had initially tied reopening counties at a faster pace than the statewide standard to zero coronavirus deaths over a two-week period... [but] Newsom dropped the requirement this week ... A Times data analysis found that some counties, including ... Santa Clara ... meet two key requirements needed to move into the next phase of reopening, which includes dine-in restaurants and shopping malls.


resident
Downtown North
on May 20, 2020 at 1:01 pm
resident, Downtown North
on May 20, 2020 at 1:01 pm
8 people like this

I am glad to see testing more easily available these days. Who should be getting tested at this point? Only people with a doctor's recommendation? Only people with symptoms (how bad)? What about essential workers and other people in high risk groups (senior citizens, pre-existing conditions, etc) who have no symptoms?


YP
Crescent Park
on May 20, 2020 at 1:08 pm
YP, Crescent Park
on May 20, 2020 at 1:08 pm
27 people like this

Our officials keep moving the goal posts , first it was "flatten the curve" to prevent our health system from being overwhelmed. Now almost TEN weeks later does anyone really think we haven't met this goal? Now it's a administrative , bureaucratic , complex set of guidelines that require testing and tracing as if that will totally remove Covid risk. What's next continued restrictions until we get a vaccine?

Got news for everyone Covid well be around for months if not years so we need to deal with it rationally and realize the tradeoffs between safety and economic destruction. We need to move away from non-essential vs essential to safe vs unsafe ? How is it any less safe to walk into a small store vs a jam packed costco if guidelines of safety are similar.

Ok I get large gathering at ballparks, concerts etc not good idea but we are being too restrictive given numbers of infected/hospitalized in our area. Prioritize protecting the highest risk like nursing facilities. If you don't feel comfortable going out then don't .

Meanwhile unemployment rate highest since great depression.


Anonymous
another community
on May 20, 2020 at 2:12 pm
Anonymous, another community
on May 20, 2020 at 2:12 pm
4 people like this

@YP are you following what is happening?

Every county and state in California is re-opening.

If you re-open everything right away, nobody knows what could happen. Cases will increase but we don't know how quickly.

By re-opening more slowly, with stages, we re-open certain things, then monitor to see what happens and what impact that had. This way, we can continue re-opening, instead of re-opening too quickly, and then having to back track.

There are a lot of things currently open. Not everything, but even the states that have almost fully "re-opened" have not opened everything (ie. some things are still shut down, and they have significantly reduced capacity in restaurants, stores, etc). I think Santa Clara County is moving cautiously, but this is the way to go. Wouldn't you rather be cautious than over do it and cause unnecessary deaths?

Everyone talks about all these unemployed people, but have you talked to them? Sure, there are some people that really want to go back to work and need money. But others actually don't want to go back to work yet because they don't feel safe. Even if we "re-opened" the economy not all businesses would open. And some workers are happy with and prefer unemployment rather than going back to work, for various reasons.


resident
Downtown North
on May 20, 2020 at 3:09 pm
resident, Downtown North
on May 20, 2020 at 3:09 pm
12 people like this

News videos crowded shopping malls in Texas are really scary. I am glad they are not experimenting with my life, but I am scared that they are experimenting with human lives.


TimR
Downtown North
on May 20, 2020 at 3:24 pm
TimR, Downtown North
on May 20, 2020 at 3:24 pm
9 people like this

I just now got back from a run through Stanford Campus, and I made sure to pass by the Galvez testing site to see what's going on there. My report: nothing at all is going on there, with hardly anyone around, and nobody there getting a test from what I could see. SCC has plenty of testing capacity. But given all the scare tactics over the last couple of months, people are too afraid to go out and get tested. So, if county officials want more testing, they really need to start doing PSA's encouraging people. Of course, those would have to include info. about how it's safe to do so, which thwarts the "keep fear alive" objective. But something's got to give.


Family Friendly
Old Palo Alto
on May 20, 2020 at 3:39 pm
Family Friendly, Old Palo Alto
on May 20, 2020 at 3:39 pm
18 people like this

"Of those, 475 were cases in long-term care facilities such as skilled nursing, assisted living, board-and-care and congregate independent living."

This just astonishes me. We've known from the beginning that the disease mainly affects the elderly. Nursing homes should be easy to isolate -- just put a rope across the entrance and prevent infected individuals from entering. And yet Cuomo and Newsom insist on *intentionally* sending infected people out of hospitals back to nursing homes.


Reality
Old Palo Alto
on May 20, 2020 at 3:59 pm
Reality, Old Palo Alto
on May 20, 2020 at 3:59 pm
20 people like this

People saying "go slow" are those have secure income. They may just complain too many Zoom meetings everyone or my online groceries not coming again. Do you know the local, small businesses are dying. They lost almost everything from this virus. Look at how many people applied for unemployment. Government or GoFundMe cannot help much for longer terms.

Parents with younger kids need daycare desperately. They need to go back to work.

Kids and teenagers are bored to death. They need social life. Their mental health are at risk. Some have been playing online games for all days & nights. And some refuse to wake up at a decent time because they said there's no purpose of it.

In reality there are deaths. But are they numbers that high that we need to sacrifice so many people in Bayarea. If you are in high risk or you have closed contact with high risk people, you take extra cautions or do whatever you need to do. But we need to open things up SOONER.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 4:22 pm
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 4:22 pm
11 people like this

Posted by Reality, a resident of Old Palo Alto
>> People saying "go slow" are those have secure income.

That isn't how exponential growth works. Look at this site to help you remember:

Web Link

Remember how New York went from 36 cases to 5365 cases in 14 days? ~1.5x *per day*? That is a very easily transmissible virus. California went from 21 confirmed cases on March 1st to 567 cases on day 14. Less personal contact, a lower growth rate of 1.26x, it took California another two weeks to get to the same point as New York. But, it got there. Exponential growth. If we go back to the way things were pre-Covid-19, we will be right back on an exponential growth curve. SARS-CoV-2 just doesn't care that you need to work. That is why we need to be smart about this and minimize transmission to the point where the exponent stays less than zero, which is what happens when people who have COVID-19 transmit it to fewer than 1 person on average. That is about where we are right now-- but it won't be if we go back to "normal". We need to go back to a new normal with reduced probability of transmission. Your business, big or small, needs to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.


Wuhan Jimmy
Barron Park
on May 20, 2020 at 4:27 pm
Wuhan Jimmy, Barron Park
on May 20, 2020 at 4:27 pm
17 people like this


Good news: Ohio judge rules “lockdown” is illegal. Wish a local judge would do the same here.

Web Link


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 4:41 pm
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 20, 2020 at 4:41 pm
2 people like this

Posted by Wuhan Jimmy, a resident of Barron Park

>> Good news: Ohio judge rules “lockdown” is illegal. Wish a local judge would do the same here.

This ruling was on a specific point of law, but, it sounds like you would like to generalize it. How far? Does the type of disease matter? Typhoid, for example? Or HIV/AIDS? Were you around in 1984 when San Francisco (sort of-- a very long story) closed the bathhouses? Web Link What do you think about that?



What Will They Do Next
Old Palo Alto
on May 20, 2020 at 4:44 pm
What Will They Do Next, Old Palo Alto
on May 20, 2020 at 4:44 pm
4 people like this

@ Old and in the way ..... our "feckless leader" termed out in 2016.


YP
Crescent Park
on May 20, 2020 at 7:38 pm
YP, Crescent Park
on May 20, 2020 at 7:38 pm
3 people like this

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Wuhan Jimmy
Barron Park
on May 20, 2020 at 8:13 pm
Wuhan Jimmy, Barron Park
on May 20, 2020 at 8:13 pm
12 people like this


When all is said and done, we're going to be glad all this happened. We got a fire drill of a virus, not one that killed 40% of the working age population.

We got to see how incompetent and hysterical many of our leaders are. We got to see how ridiculous the CDC and the FDA are. The government response has been the exact "cytokine storm" that overreacts in people's immune systems and kills people.

We got to see how lazy bureaucrats and the businesses they directly depend on were deemed "essential" while they exterminated small businesses, 100,000 so far.


common sense
Midtown
on May 21, 2020 at 7:05 am
common sense, Midtown
on May 21, 2020 at 7:05 am
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Governor Newsom, and the county health officers should look at the other states, like Florida, Texas and Georgia, who have progressed must faster in reopening their states; even though they reopened, their new cases of COVID have dropped. They should look, as well at states with high numbers of COVID, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania. New York kept sending recovering COVID patients to nursing homes.

For a long period these health officials were saying masks were not needed, and now they want people to wear masks.

Governor Newsom and the county officers should also consider the effects that closing off the medical facilities for "elective" visits - like mammogram screenings, cancer screens, etc. will have on future health effects.


Zhao
Charleston Meadows
on May 21, 2020 at 8:14 am
Zhao, Charleston Meadows
on May 21, 2020 at 8:14 am
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Many Americans are anxious to get back to work. The economy is suffering.

On Fox News, Donald Trump Jr, and his younger brother Eric predicted that the COVID-19 pandemic will end immediately after the November 3rd elections...something about the pandemic being created and spread by the Democratic Party to discredit their father's presidency.

If so, many people (i.e. China, the WHO, CDC etc.) will be relieved and everyday life in America can perhaps return to normal.

My being new to the American political landscape, are Donald Jr. and Eric Trump's accusations creditable?


Zhao...1918 Revisited
Charleston Meadows
on May 21, 2020 at 9:02 am
Zhao...1918 Revisited, Charleston Meadows
on May 21, 2020 at 9:02 am
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My daughter just showed me this article.
Web Link
Apparently the 1918 Spanish Flu (which originated in Kansas) was covered up by Woodrow Wilson in order to promote his war effort & many U.S. soldiers died as a result.

So it appears that presidential humanistic responsibilities are not a trademark of either political party...or country.

My neighbor just informed me that the Trump sons are NOT credible spokespersons but rather INCREDIBLE as in unbelievable yet people in certain parts of the country actually believe them.


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 21, 2020 at 9:24 am
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 21, 2020 at 9:24 am
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Posted by Wuhan Jimmy, a resident of Barron Park

>> We got to see how lazy bureaucrats and the businesses they directly depend on were deemed "essential" while they exterminated small businesses, 100,000 so far.

You ignored all my points. Do you think that business closures are ever justified by public health? (e.g. SF bathhouse example above.). Does the type of small business matter? Why are bars and bathhouses "essential", compared to, say, *food*? Just because something is a small business doesn't mean it is sacred. If it is a risk to public health, that matters.


JL
Old Palo Alto
on May 21, 2020 at 10:07 am
JL, Old Palo Alto
on May 21, 2020 at 10:07 am
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At the beginning of April, Santa Clara County projected 2,000 to 16,000 deaths from Covid-19 by the end of May. 2,000 deaths was the BEST case scenario with strict social distancing, etc. On May 21, Santa Clara County is at 138 deaths. I understand why county officials presented dire scenarios at the time as there were a lot of unknowns around the spread of the disease. But I think it is safe to say that the current situation is a lot better than even the best case scenarios presented.
This is why it was ridiculous for Sara Cody to refuse to reopen the County last week (which thankfully changed, presumably due to pressure). She is quickly losing credibility with her warnings and is out of touch with reality. Not only is the economy a disaster, but people are afraid to get critical non-Covid health procedures done because of the continued fear mongering re: Covid. As a health official, maybe she is blind to the economy but she should at least be sensitive about the health risk about delayed/missed health procedures. As others have mentioned, there are trade-offs and right now, and she is now killing more people with the lockdown than saving people from Covid given what we have seen. At least Newsom is flexible enough to adjust on the fly based on what we are seeing; Cody is seemingly incapable of doing that.


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