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Stanford student allegedly paid $6.5 million for admission

Yusi Zhao's family worked with leader of national scam, William 'Rick' Singer, article says

The family who paid the most to get their child into a selective college as part of a national college admissions scandal was identified on Wednesday by the Los Angeles Times as a Chinese family whose daughter gained admission to Stanford University.

The Los Angeles Times reported that Yusi Zhao, who was admitted to Stanford in the spring of 2017, and her family, who reportedly live in Beijing, paid college consultant William "Rick" Singer $6.5 million for her admission. The story cites sources familiar with the case who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about it.

The Weekly was unable to independently verify this. Zhao, reportedly the daughter of a Chinese billionaire, did not respond to emailed requests for comment. Her name is no longer listed on Stanford's online directory, though she was previously listed as an undergraduate student in the Department of East Asian Languages and Cultures.

A Hong Kong-based lawyer representing Zhao’s mother, identified only as “Mrs. Zhao,” released a statement Thursday stating she had made the $6.5 million contribution to Singer’s foundation in 2017 under the impression it would go to support “academic staff, scholarships, athletics programs and helping those students who otherwise will not be able to afford to attend Stanford,” attorney Vincent Law said. She made the contribution on April 21, 2017, just weeks after her daughter had been admitted to Stanford, according to Law.

She was introduced to Singer by a "third party," Law said. Singer gave educational advice and did not guarantee admission into any particular college or university, Law said. He represented his foundation "as a substantial and legitimate non-profit foundation for supporting

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education," the attorney said.

“Mrs. Zhao has come to realize she has been misled, her generosity has been taken advantage of, and her daughter has fallen victim to the scam,” Law said. “Both Mrs. Zhao and Yusi have been shocked and deeply disturbed by what have transpired, and have engaged attorneys to handle the matter."

Law declined to answer further questions about the case.

Stanford announced in April that it had expelled an unidentified student who it determined had falsified his or her college application and who was connected to the nationwide college-admission fraud scheme.

"Any credits earned have also been vacated," Stanford officials said. "The student is no longer on Stanford's campus."

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Citing privacy laws, Stanford would not identify or confirm that Zhao is the student who was expelled, according to a statement posted Wednesday on a university webpage dedicated to the admissions case.

The Zhaos were not named as part of the federal indictment in March that charged 33 parents, including several Midpeninsula residents.

The university's former head sailing coach, John Vandemoer, has already been implicated in the admissions scheme and was fired shortly after the first federal indictment was announced. Vandemoer pleaded guilty to a federal charge of racketeering conspiracy.

According to Stanford, the expelled student had not received a recommendation from any coach and has not been affiliated with the Stanford sailing program or any other athletic team.

The university did, however, deem that the student is "associated with a contribution to Stanford from the foundation in the government investigation." That contribution was made several months after the student was admitted, according to the university.

The Los Angeles Times reported that "to ensure Zhao was admitted to Stanford, Singer targeted the school's sailing program, putting her forth as a competitive sailor despite there being no indication she competed in the sport."

According to the Department of Justice investigation, the Stanford sailing program received three gifts totaling $770,000. Stanford's statement on Wednesday emphasized that the university did not receive more than this amount and was unaware of the alleged $6.5 million payment until Wednesday's news reports.

Vandemoer acknowledged that he had accepted contributions to the sailing program in exchange for recommending two prospective students for admission to the university. Neither of these two had completed the application process and neither was admitted, according to Stanford.

The Los Angeles Times and New York Times reported that a financial adviser at Morgan Stanley in Southern California, identified as Michael Wu, connected the Zhao family to Singer. A spokesperson for Morgan Stanley confirmed that Wu worked in the Pasadena office and was "terminated for not cooperating with an internal investigation into the college admissions matter." Morgan Stanley is "cooperating with the authorities," the spokesperson said. Online, Wu is described as a the lead international client advisor of the Wu Group at Morgan Stanley in Pasadena; the group "focuses on servicing ultra-high-net-worth clients with Asian backgrounds."

A source familiar with Morgan Stanley's investigation said Wu was terminated in March.

On Thursday, a lawyer for Wu, who was first quoted in the Los Angeles Times, said in a statement provided to the Weekly that Wu was introduced to Singer by a "trusted source" at Morgan Stanley.

Singer wrote in an email that the funds would be paid to Stanford "to endow staff salaries and scholarships" and "to fund athletics special programs and the university's underserved outreach programs to help the needy to afford to attend Stanford," according to Beverly Hills attorney Raymond Aghaian. Singer told Wu that admission to Stanford was not guaranteed, Aghaian said.

Wu was terminated while he was out of the country and "attempting to fully cooperate with Morgan Stanley," Aghaian said.

Zhao is listed as a delegate for the Princeton U.S. China Coalition's 2019 Global Governance Forum. An online biography for the event describes her as a Stanford sophomore hoping to major in psychology and East Asian studies and interested in educational policy in China. She "hopes to be involved in the Chinese government in the future" and organizes campus events at Stanford related to the U.S.-China relationship, the biography states.

Zhao was also listed last summer as a visiting undergraduate student from Stanford on the website of Harvard University's Nocera Lab, which studies energy conversion in biology and chemistry.

Last week, the Wall Street Journal identified a student whose family had paid Singer $1.2 million for their daughter's admission at Yale University. Sherry Guo, also a young woman from China, was a freshman at Yale until last month, her lawyer has told other media outlets. Her parents have not been charged.

Fourteen defendants, including four local parents, have agreed to plead guilty in the case. A Hillsborough couple formally entered guilty pleas on Wednesday for paying a college preparatory counselor $600,000 to guarantee their two daughters' enrollment into the University of Southern California, according to federal prosecutors.

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• Listen to the March 15 episode of "Behind the Headlines," where Palo Alto college adviser John Raftrey discusses the implications of the nationwide admissions bribery scandal, now available on our YouTube channel and podcast.

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Stanford student allegedly paid $6.5 million for admission

Yusi Zhao's family worked with leader of national scam, William 'Rick' Singer, article says

by Elena Kadvany / Palo Alto Weekly

Uploaded: Wed, May 1, 2019, 3:34 pm
Updated: Thu, May 2, 2019, 4:54 pm

The family who paid the most to get their child into a selective college as part of a national college admissions scandal was identified on Wednesday by the Los Angeles Times as a Chinese family whose daughter gained admission to Stanford University.

The Los Angeles Times reported that Yusi Zhao, who was admitted to Stanford in the spring of 2017, and her family, who reportedly live in Beijing, paid college consultant William "Rick" Singer $6.5 million for her admission. The story cites sources familiar with the case who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about it.

The Weekly was unable to independently verify this. Zhao, reportedly the daughter of a Chinese billionaire, did not respond to emailed requests for comment. Her name is no longer listed on Stanford's online directory, though she was previously listed as an undergraduate student in the Department of East Asian Languages and Cultures.

A Hong Kong-based lawyer representing Zhao’s mother, identified only as “Mrs. Zhao,” released a statement Thursday stating she had made the $6.5 million contribution to Singer’s foundation in 2017 under the impression it would go to support “academic staff, scholarships, athletics programs and helping those students who otherwise will not be able to afford to attend Stanford,” attorney Vincent Law said. She made the contribution on April 21, 2017, just weeks after her daughter had been admitted to Stanford, according to Law.

She was introduced to Singer by a "third party," Law said. Singer gave educational advice and did not guarantee admission into any particular college or university, Law said. He represented his foundation "as a substantial and legitimate non-profit foundation for supporting

education," the attorney said.

“Mrs. Zhao has come to realize she has been misled, her generosity has been taken advantage of, and her daughter has fallen victim to the scam,” Law said. “Both Mrs. Zhao and Yusi have been shocked and deeply disturbed by what have transpired, and have engaged attorneys to handle the matter."

Law declined to answer further questions about the case.

Stanford announced in April that it had expelled an unidentified student who it determined had falsified his or her college application and who was connected to the nationwide college-admission fraud scheme.

"Any credits earned have also been vacated," Stanford officials said. "The student is no longer on Stanford's campus."

Citing privacy laws, Stanford would not identify or confirm that Zhao is the student who was expelled, according to a statement posted Wednesday on a university webpage dedicated to the admissions case.

The Zhaos were not named as part of the federal indictment in March that charged 33 parents, including several Midpeninsula residents.

The university's former head sailing coach, John Vandemoer, has already been implicated in the admissions scheme and was fired shortly after the first federal indictment was announced. Vandemoer pleaded guilty to a federal charge of racketeering conspiracy.

According to Stanford, the expelled student had not received a recommendation from any coach and has not been affiliated with the Stanford sailing program or any other athletic team.

The university did, however, deem that the student is "associated with a contribution to Stanford from the foundation in the government investigation." That contribution was made several months after the student was admitted, according to the university.

The Los Angeles Times reported that "to ensure Zhao was admitted to Stanford, Singer targeted the school's sailing program, putting her forth as a competitive sailor despite there being no indication she competed in the sport."

According to the Department of Justice investigation, the Stanford sailing program received three gifts totaling $770,000. Stanford's statement on Wednesday emphasized that the university did not receive more than this amount and was unaware of the alleged $6.5 million payment until Wednesday's news reports.

Vandemoer acknowledged that he had accepted contributions to the sailing program in exchange for recommending two prospective students for admission to the university. Neither of these two had completed the application process and neither was admitted, according to Stanford.

The Los Angeles Times and New York Times reported that a financial adviser at Morgan Stanley in Southern California, identified as Michael Wu, connected the Zhao family to Singer. A spokesperson for Morgan Stanley confirmed that Wu worked in the Pasadena office and was "terminated for not cooperating with an internal investigation into the college admissions matter." Morgan Stanley is "cooperating with the authorities," the spokesperson said. Online, Wu is described as a the lead international client advisor of the Wu Group at Morgan Stanley in Pasadena; the group "focuses on servicing ultra-high-net-worth clients with Asian backgrounds."

A source familiar with Morgan Stanley's investigation said Wu was terminated in March.

On Thursday, a lawyer for Wu, who was first quoted in the Los Angeles Times, said in a statement provided to the Weekly that Wu was introduced to Singer by a "trusted source" at Morgan Stanley.

Singer wrote in an email that the funds would be paid to Stanford "to endow staff salaries and scholarships" and "to fund athletics special programs and the university's underserved outreach programs to help the needy to afford to attend Stanford," according to Beverly Hills attorney Raymond Aghaian. Singer told Wu that admission to Stanford was not guaranteed, Aghaian said.

Wu was terminated while he was out of the country and "attempting to fully cooperate with Morgan Stanley," Aghaian said.

Zhao is listed as a delegate for the Princeton U.S. China Coalition's 2019 Global Governance Forum. An online biography for the event describes her as a Stanford sophomore hoping to major in psychology and East Asian studies and interested in educational policy in China. She "hopes to be involved in the Chinese government in the future" and organizes campus events at Stanford related to the U.S.-China relationship, the biography states.

Zhao was also listed last summer as a visiting undergraduate student from Stanford on the website of Harvard University's Nocera Lab, which studies energy conversion in biology and chemistry.

Last week, the Wall Street Journal identified a student whose family had paid Singer $1.2 million for their daughter's admission at Yale University. Sherry Guo, also a young woman from China, was a freshman at Yale until last month, her lawyer has told other media outlets. Her parents have not been charged.

Fourteen defendants, including four local parents, have agreed to plead guilty in the case. A Hillsborough couple formally entered guilty pleas on Wednesday for paying a college preparatory counselor $600,000 to guarantee their two daughters' enrollment into the University of Southern California, according to federal prosecutors.

Related content:

• Listen to the March 15 episode of "Behind the Headlines," where Palo Alto college adviser John Raftrey discusses the implications of the nationwide admissions bribery scandal, now available on our YouTube channel and podcast.

Comments

Curmudgeon
Downtown North
on May 1, 2019 at 4:24 pm
Curmudgeon, Downtown North
on May 1, 2019 at 4:24 pm
Member
Downtown North
on May 1, 2019 at 4:40 pm
Member, Downtown North
on May 1, 2019 at 4:40 pm

Stanford elected not to name the student citing privacy policy. If she and her family have not been charged, why is it OK to name and shame her?


Member 2
College Terrace
on May 1, 2019 at 5:02 pm
Member 2, College Terrace
on May 1, 2019 at 5:02 pm

Stanford didn’t simply “elect” to not name the student. They are prohibited from doing so by federal law — FERPA, I believe. Their refusal to name the student does not at all imply innocence or the absence of wrongdoing on her or her parents’ part. In fact, the University’s decision to expel her after investigating the circumstances of her admission would suggest at least some degree of dishonesty was involved.

Similarly, the simple lack of charges currently filed against her or her parents should not be seen as any type of exoneration. Her parents are extremely wealthy foreign citizens. Those two factors — their massive wealth and foreign citizenship — make them more difficult to prosecute.


Incredible Tales Of Under The Table Dealings
Menlo Park
on May 1, 2019 at 5:30 pm
Incredible Tales Of Under The Table Dealings, Menlo Park
on May 1, 2019 at 5:30 pm

Wow. Who would pay $6.5M just to go to Stanford?

Is the diploma worth that much?

It's also amazing how many super-wealthy Chinese immigrants are now residing in the United States.

The American Dream has gone global.


musical
Palo Verde
on May 1, 2019 at 5:50 pm
musical, Palo Verde
on May 1, 2019 at 5:50 pm

"Who would pay $6.5M just to go to Stanford?" Someone with $6500M.
"Is the diploma worth that much?" Depends who you reel in there as a spouse.

Financial adviser Michael Wu terminated from Morgan Stanley's Pasadena office.
Any admissions scandals brewing in that town?


JR
Palo Verde
on May 1, 2019 at 9:22 pm
JR, Palo Verde
on May 1, 2019 at 9:22 pm
Jim H
Registered user
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 1, 2019 at 9:35 pm
Jim H, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on May 1, 2019 at 9:35 pm

@musical
From Web Link

“Mr. Wu was terminated for not cooperating with an internal investigation into the college admissions matter, and we are cooperating with authorities,” a Morgan Stanley spokeswoman said.


Jim H
Registered user
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 1, 2019 at 9:38 pm
Jim H, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on May 1, 2019 at 9:38 pm

And from NBC News:

"The family of a Chinese student allegedly paid $6.5 million to the ringleader of the college admissions scandal to get their daughter into Stanford University, a person with direct knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

The parents of the student, identified as Yusi Zhao, have not been charged. They were referred to the scam's ringleader, William Rick Singer, by an employee at Morgan Stanley, the source said.

Zhao's parents reached Singer through a referral by a Morgan Stanley financial adviser, Michael Wu, according to a person familiar with the matter. Wu was fired in March, the person said.

A Morgan Stanley spokesperson said Wu was terminated for "not cooperating with an internal investigation into the college admissions matter.""


Paly Parent
Old Palo Alto
on May 1, 2019 at 9:42 pm
Paly Parent, Old Palo Alto
on May 1, 2019 at 9:42 pm

Seems like people will pay anything (do anything) to get into a western country.
Sending a child to study abroad is often a tactic used to help get the rest of the family over.
East Coast "immigration via education" consultants charge outrageous prices as well – some charge over a million just to get a kid into a high school boarding school.


Jim H
Registered user
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 1, 2019 at 10:05 pm
Jim H, Duveneck/St. Francis
Registered user
on May 1, 2019 at 10:05 pm

@Paly Parent
Or just bring them over the border when they're little and they can get in state tuition and "first in family" priority.


Curious
Menlo Park
on May 2, 2019 at 12:19 am
Curious, Menlo Park
on May 2, 2019 at 12:19 am

Could someone explain how the student's parents are not being charged? Why are all the other 33 parents being charged but not this one? If there was enough evidence to expel the student from the university, then why isn't there enough evidence to charge the parents? Is the student being charged? Who is being charged in this case? who is bering charged in the Sherry Guo case?


more info
Green Acres
on May 2, 2019 at 12:52 am
more info, Green Acres
on May 2, 2019 at 12:52 am

More info and photos in the Daily Mail: Web Link
This story was covered in the WSJ days ago btw. It's about time PAO picked it up.


Fatberg
Professorville
on May 2, 2019 at 2:18 am
Fatberg, Professorville
on May 2, 2019 at 2:18 am

From the DailyMail article:

“It was first revealed last month that a Stanford student had been given the boot after her family gave $500,000 to the school's sailing coach. . . . In a bizarre twist however, the young woman gained admission on her own, and was never actually recruited by the sailing coach at the school.”

She got in on her own merits but the back-up plan torpedoed everything? Yikes.


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 2, 2019 at 5:47 am
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on May 2, 2019 at 5:47 am

Who would pay 6.5 million dollars to get into Stanford? People similar to those who paid 6.5 million dollars in cash to buy a 3 bedroom house in Palo Alto, which was what happened with a home up for sale on my my block a few years ago.


Incredible Tales Of Under The Table Dealings
Menlo Park
on May 2, 2019 at 9:05 am
Incredible Tales Of Under The Table Dealings, Menlo Park
on May 2, 2019 at 9:05 am

> Stanford is a non-profit in name only. In reality, they are a 26 billion dollar hedge fund that grows by any means necessary,

Excellent point. Stanford is a BUSINESS.


> Seems like people will pay anything (do anything) to get into a western country.

> Or just bring them over the border when they're little and they can get in state tuition and "first in family" priority.

Can you blame them for having these sentiments and in some cases...delusions?
The United States is still viewed by many as the land of opportunity and there are countless channels from which to generate personal wealth and lifestyle ambitions (i.e. entrepreurism, entertainment, professional sports, crime, lottery etc.).

All things considered, the wealthy Chinese ensnarled in this recent college scandal are no different than the cuthroat American industrialists/capitalists of the late 19th century through the pre-stock market crash of 1929.

The only difference is that the majority of them made their vast fortunes in China prior to settling in the United States.

This is just another convoluted tale of 'new money' and the price some people will pay to promote an 'ideal' outside/superficial perception of their children and of themselves as gloating parents (aka bragging rights).

Kind of sad (aka pathetic).


What Will They Do Next
Registered user
Old Palo Alto
on May 2, 2019 at 11:19 am
What Will They Do Next, Old Palo Alto
Registered user
on May 2, 2019 at 11:19 am

Seems to me that Stanford should be investigated for participation in this scheme. How could they not wonder where these "donations" to sailing and other programs came from? Do they think people are that naive?


LKA
Registered user
Crescent Park
on May 2, 2019 at 11:40 am
LKA, Crescent Park
Registered user
on May 2, 2019 at 11:40 am

Is no one else reading the quotes form this girl’s online biography and thinking this looks much more like Maria Butina than like an immigration attempt? Chinese billionaires don’t need any round about way to get into this country. They can buy their way in.


member1
Registered user
another community
on May 2, 2019 at 11:54 am
member1, another community
Registered user
on May 2, 2019 at 11:54 am

6.5. what does she get for that. Does she own the Dorm or will she have to share room? probably has accomodations and pays hired look alike tutors who are her double to take tests. Sounds like a movie!


Not naive
Midtown
on May 2, 2019 at 12:29 pm
Not naive, Midtown
on May 2, 2019 at 12:29 pm

Do they think people are that naive?
Of course they do. Stanfordites are so above the masses that they think we are all naive peasants! They can live in their bubble and play their own games without fear of anyone noticing. And it mostly works, until the bubble bursts and people see what has been there all along. Now the cover-up language begins....


Stanford Alumni
another community
on May 2, 2019 at 1:59 pm
Stanford Alumni, another community
on May 2, 2019 at 1:59 pm

This is happening because Stanford has raised the bar to such a high level that countless individuals (prospective students & their parents) will always want to be a part of its aura.

You really can't blame them because the global prestige and recognition of an academic pedigree from one of the finest universities in the world goes a long ways.

What I can't understand is USC being considered in the same category.


Broken
Old Palo Alto
on May 2, 2019 at 2:28 pm
Broken, Old Palo Alto
on May 2, 2019 at 2:28 pm

System is so broken. So unfair to hardworking kids.


Scottie Zimmerman
Registered user
Midtown
on May 2, 2019 at 3:58 pm
Scottie Zimmerman, Midtown
Registered user
on May 2, 2019 at 3:58 pm

When I think of Stanford, I think of a great university that has contributed generously to our community, our country, and our world. I admit I'm giving the university credit for the accomplishments of generations of Stanford graduates. But I'm not sure it's useful to separate the school from its illustrious students.

My comment is not relevant to the college admissions fraud, which I deplore. It's just that I have a high regard for what Stanford has accomplished ever since Charles Eliot, president of Harvard, declined to accept a large financial gift from Leland Stanford, who hoped to honor his deceased son, Leland Jr., by establishing a school in his name. I wanted to speak up for all the benefits we enjoy having Stanford University here in Santa Clara County.

Nobody has paid me for this comment or written it for me.


Mark Weiss
Downtown North
on May 2, 2019 at 6:37 pm
Mark Weiss, Downtown North
on May 2, 2019 at 6:37 pm

Web Link
Here Robert Reich articulates how the tax deductible status of elite universities, whose combined endowments exceed $550b, worsen the problems caused by income disparity, and force a tax burden on the rest of us (I went to Dartmouth but I don’t make significant gifts — and pay roughly 25% tax rate.)
In the wake of these scandals, and prosecutions, maybe we should true-up by removing the exemptions.


Donor Make Your Brown Eyes Blue
Stanford
on May 2, 2019 at 10:35 pm
Donor Make Your Brown Eyes Blue, Stanford
on May 2, 2019 at 10:35 pm

Does anyone NOT think Stanford was complicit in Singer's filth? Singer is tip of iceberg. Plenty of folks like Singer doing shady business with Universities.


Donor Make Your Brown Eyes Blue
Stanford
on May 2, 2019 at 11:55 pm
Donor Make Your Brown Eyes Blue, Stanford
on May 2, 2019 at 11:55 pm

"When I think of Stanford, I think of a great university that has contributed generously to our community, our country, and our world."

That's so interesting, because when I think of Stanford, I think of a corrupt, exploitative, tax avoiding corporation like Facebook.


duped?!
Downtown North
on May 3, 2019 at 12:43 am
duped?!, Downtown North
on May 3, 2019 at 12:43 am

According to the LA Times, the Zhaos claim that Singer duped them:
Web Link
Mrs. Zhao says she was shocked and disappointed that the $6.5 million they donated didn't go to scholarships for needy students. This of course doesn't explain why Molly Zhao indicated that she was a competitive sailor on her Stanford application. Perhaps she simply did so in solidarity with the other students on the sailing team she perceived as needy of scholarships?


mauricio
Registered user
Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on May 3, 2019 at 6:36 am
mauricio, Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
Registered user
on May 3, 2019 at 6:36 am

Stanford's contribution to this area is highly overhyped and exaggerated. It would be a great area(it isn't anymore) without what Stanford has become, which is really a greedy and corrupting hedge fund. Right now Stanford is a major contributor to the ruination and corruption of this area.


The Stanford Way!
another community
on May 3, 2019 at 3:25 pm
The Stanford Way!, another community
on May 3, 2019 at 3:25 pm

> Right now Stanford is a major contributor to the ruination and corruption of this area.

And Leland Stanford Sr. is 'somewhere' watching all of this PROUDLY!


Only Fair
Old Palo Alto
on May 4, 2019 at 1:17 am
Only Fair, Old Palo Alto
on May 4, 2019 at 1:17 am

Leland Stanford was a crook! We should demand they change the name of the university due to his shady deals. Since America has gone so PC, it's only right to change the name, because why should a crook be respected?

These Chinese parents know what they are doing. I suppose they will try to blame it on a translator or poor English understanding. Tsk.


Remind me
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 4, 2019 at 8:42 am
Remind me, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 4, 2019 at 8:42 am

@Scottie,
I'm not disputing that Stanford does things for our community, I just can't remember them offhand. They don't allow the community to rent their performing arts facilities at all, not even non-profit to benefit the community. Even the Palo Alto schools do that.

Palo Alto City and the community colleges offer low-cost classes and camps for local youth -- have you ever looked at the cost of the offerings at Stanford? I hear local youth are at a disadvantage in applying to attend Stanford.

They do offer Stanford Splash, which is a pretty cool thing for youth -- happening this week -- that's probably number one on the list.

Stanford housing is below market rate and doesn't contribute so much to the local tax base. Stanford isolates itself from the local community mostly.

If Stanford were to take some of its gazillions and set up a satellite campus somewhere in California that could use it, somewhere appropriate to grow, somewhere that could be a relief valve for the unhealthy growth in this area, THEN I would agree with you that they do things for this community. Mostly they're pretty standoffish and stingy. But if I am wrong, I would love some examples to jog my memory. (Hint: Things that Stanford does for itself regardless of the local community do not count.)


Geekmom
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 4, 2019 at 8:56 am
Geekmom, Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 4, 2019 at 8:56 am

I think someone should be tracking where the 6.5M was delivered. It doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the sailing program given they claim to have only received 770K illegally. Stanford has been very quiet. The implication is that the Sailing coach, Singer and a chinese family worked in a vacuum. I have to think that the administration knew what was occurring.


Ming Le
Charleston Meadows
on May 4, 2019 at 9:06 am
Ming Le, Charleston Meadows
on May 4, 2019 at 9:06 am

My grandparents lived on a junk in the Hong Kong Harbor after World War Two for about seven years before immigrating to the US.

I showed a picture of it to my daughter & we actually boarded one during a vacation to HK ten years ago.

Would she qualify for a Stanford sailing scholarship? My daughter actually got to steer it for about 15 minutes.


john_alderman
Registered user
Crescent Park
on May 4, 2019 at 9:41 am
john_alderman, Crescent Park
Registered user
on May 4, 2019 at 9:41 am

@Mark Weiss - Maybe you missed it, but the much reviled Trump tax reform did add a tax on endowments.

Web Link


Ming Le
Charleston Meadows
on May 4, 2019 at 9:52 am
Ming Le, Charleston Meadows
on May 4, 2019 at 9:52 am

>>> Stanford student allegedly paid $6.5 million for admission

$6.5 million buys a decent house in Palo Alto. It is a better long-term investment than spending the same amount of money to get into college.

Most Chinese are very cost-concious when it comes time to actually paying for things.

This Chinese parent does not fit that model. Are you sure they are Chinese?


Anon
Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 4, 2019 at 2:11 pm
Anon, Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 4, 2019 at 2:11 pm

Posted by Ming Le, a resident of Charleston Meadows

>> This Chinese parent does not fit that model. Are you sure they are Chinese?

Read the article. Your statement is a variant of what is known as the "No true Scotsman" argument. In this case, "No true Chinese would waste $6.5M this way."

Web Link

==

If Angus, a Glaswegian, who puts sugar on his porridge, is proposed as a counter-example to the claim “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge”, the ‘No true Scotsman’ fallacy would run as follows:

(1) Angus puts sugar on his porridge.
(2) No (true) Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.
Therefore:
(3) Angus is not a (true) Scotsman.
Therefore:
(4) Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.

==


Ming Le
Charleston Meadows
on May 4, 2019 at 5:58 pm
Ming Le, Charleston Meadows
on May 4, 2019 at 5:58 pm

>> Angus is not a counter-example to the claim that no Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.

Who cares if some guy from Scotland puts sugar on his porridge?

We are talking about $6.5 million which buys a lot of sugar regardless of whether someone is Scottish or Chinese.

With $6.5 million, one can buy enough sugar until their teeth rot.

Is this why the English are rumored to have bad teeth? Or is it because they have known to have bad dentists?



Neighbour
Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 6, 2019 at 10:25 am
Neighbour, Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 6, 2019 at 10:25 am

Going to college these days are all about the brand.
Not the education that comes with.


Phonies Big & Small
College Terrace
on May 6, 2019 at 4:58 pm
Phonies Big & Small, College Terrace
on May 6, 2019 at 4:58 pm

>> Going to college these days are all about the brand.

Just like designer labels. People are so shallow nowadays.

Money breeds arrogance.


Les
Crescent Park
on May 6, 2019 at 10:54 pm
Les, Crescent Park
on May 6, 2019 at 10:54 pm

@Remind Me
1. Repaving all of Sand Hill Road—and other streets if I remember correctly . It’s not as if SU affiliates are the only ones who use it.
2. Giving land to Palo Alto for pennies for decades of use for athletic fields. Oh, and building said athletic fields.
3. The Dish. Keeping it open and free for the public’s use even when the public trashes it with their garbage.
4. Other biking/walking/hiking trails that people complain aren’t enough for them.
5. Free museums.
6. Beautiful foothills devoid of monster homes. Don’t kid yourself that they would be if anyone else owned that land other than Stanford.
7. An extraordinary financial aid program the likes of which only a couple other schools in the entire country can come close to. And about which you know nothing. In fact, you know nothing about Stanford. You *hear* this and you *hear* that. All this because somebody couldn’t rent Bing Concert Hall. I am constantly amazed and not just a little disgusted by the lack of respect locals have for SU. Yes, it’s crowded around here. No, Stanford isn’t the only reason. Buncha whiners. I wonder what your alma maters have done for their towns. In fact, what have *you* done for Palo alto lately? Remind me.
(No, I am not a Stanford alum. No, I do not work there. I just appreciate the good neighbor they have been for many, many years.)


Mark Weiss
Registered user
Downtown North
on May 7, 2019 at 7:27 am
Mark Weiss, Downtown North
Registered user
on May 7, 2019 at 7:27 am

1., @john, you mean I actually agree with Trump on something? Whoa?!
2., re Zhao, I read in the Stanford Daily that either the father or the grandfather or an uncle was also involved in a corruption case where he bribed a government official and the outcome was that the Chinese government executed the corrupt official. As my former Terman Tiger 7th grade flag C football teammate Bill McGlashan said, in a slightly related context: Wow, it's amazing how things are done these days!


Mark Weiss
Registered user
Downtown North
on May 7, 2019 at 7:33 am
Mark Weiss, Downtown North
Registered user
on May 7, 2019 at 7:33 am

Cut to Graham Greene, The Third Man, 1949: (ferris wheel scene)
Tell me. Would you really feel any pity if one of those dots stopped moving forever? If I offered you twenty thousand pounds for every dot that stopped, would you really, old man, tell me to keep my money, or would you calculate how many dots you could afford to spare? Free of income tax, old man. Free of income tax - the only way you can save money nowadays.

Or let he or she or he/she and his or her preferred pronouns cast the first stone.


Marc
Midtown
on May 8, 2019 at 8:22 am
Marc, Midtown
on May 8, 2019 at 8:22 am

Can someone calmly cite the exact laws that were broken by paying to have a proctor give you the correct answers on an SAT test and to fake your admission information when applying to Stanford?

As far as I know the charges against the parents are wire fraud and collusion. There may be some case to bring against the people that went to USC (a state affiliated school) but I don't think there is a law against cheating on your SATs or lying to get into Stanford.

I am not saying that it is OK to cheat on exams or lie to get into Stanford. Both the Educational Testing Service and Stanford may have policies against cheating and penalties if caught, just that these are not laws. You don't get fined or jail time.

Remember, this is not lying to a government organization or official.

/marc


Resident Stanford Alum
Old Palo Alto
on May 9, 2019 at 12:23 am
Resident Stanford Alum, Old Palo Alto
on May 9, 2019 at 12:23 am

@ marc
USC is NOT a state affiliated school. It is a private research university.
It is the oldest private research university in California. It was founded in 1880.


Resident Stanford Alum
Old Palo Alto
on May 9, 2019 at 5:43 am
Resident Stanford Alum, Old Palo Alto
on May 9, 2019 at 5:43 am

@ marc
I'm not a lawyer, but it would seem that if a student receives financial aid or a graduate student receives federal grants after being admitted to a program with false references and scores, it would be a punishable offense.

If dishonest students go on to become professors and receive substantial funding, the consequences of their actions could be both criminal and dangerous.

There have been many cases over the years at numerous universities.
Some researchers have been caught and charged manipulating or stealing data in biomedical and cancer research, and also other areas of science while using major funding from our government.
Recently at MD Anderson in Texas
Web Link

Duke has had problems going back to 10 years ago.
Web Link

Seems like kids who would cheat on entrance exams to get into college would have lifelong credibility issues.
As a scientist, I know my company has had to dismiss more and more over the years.

Probably best to keep them out before they begin - to avoid more costly damage down the road.


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