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Stanford University officials sanction marching band

Officials impose one-year travel suspension and reforms after repeated conduct violations

Stanford's boisterous Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band (LSJUMB) is being sanctioned by the university after officials found incidents of alcohol and drug use, hazing and sexual harassment, according to a university statement published in the Stanford Report.

The band cannot perform at any away games for one year and must adopt a series of reforms, according to the statement.

Stanford's Organization Conduct Board and Title IX Office investigated complaints about several band events, including off-campus trips, held by the band for its members between 2012 and 2015. The band's conduct violated university policies, the investigation found.

Violations included a tradition in which a band member was given an alcoholic concoction intended to make that individual vomit publicly; an annual trip in which some band members used illegal substances; and a band selection process in which individuals were asked a number of inappropriate questions on sexual matters, according to the statement.

The band will be unable to travel with any Stanford athletic team to perform during the 2015-16 academic year, including post-season games. However, the band will be permitted to play at home events and at certain non-athletic events.

In addition, the band is prohibited from hosting events with alcohol during the 2015-16 academic year; will be required to adjust some of its internal events to ensure they comply with university policies prohibiting hazing and sexual harassment; and will participate in additional training to ensure compliance with university policies on alcohol, hazing and sexual harassment, according to the statement.

Deborah Golder, associate vice provost and dean of Residential Education, said the investigation noted that band leadership has worked in recent years to make improvements in its culture and accountability. The reforms seek to continue that progress, she said.

"There are aspects of Band culture which are no longer in line with our values, and we accept that, despite tremendous growth, we have further to go," the band said in a May 15 statement. "The results of this investigation are valuable, and they give us further opportunity to create a safe space on campus for students to express themselves freely."

"The university's objective is to ensure a safe and harassment-free environment while honoring the band's traditions and its unique, irreverent identity," Golder said. "We hope the band will use this outcome as a positive platform for further strengthening its culture and ensuring the band's vibrancy and good stewardship in the years ahead."

The outcome of the investigation may be appealed by the band, with a final decision to be issued by Vice Provost for Student Affairs Greg Boardman, officials said in the statement.

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33 people like this
Posted by Chief
a resident of College Terrace
on May 15, 2015 at 10:20 am

The Stanford Band marches?


14 people like this
Posted by lms
a resident of East Palo Alto
on May 15, 2015 at 11:10 am

Band?


18 people like this
Posted by senor blogger
a resident of Palo Verde
on May 15, 2015 at 11:49 am

The band has been out of control for at least 50 years. Glad to see Stanford faculty finally woke up. Or maybe they got a new supplier.


6 people like this
Posted by Joe
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 15, 2015 at 12:14 pm

Does the Stanford Band have a paid director? If so--why is it that this person is not named in the article as having some responsibility over the Band?


3 people like this
Posted by Hulkamania
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 15, 2015 at 12:33 pm

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Has the quinquennial sweep of the Band Shack for stolen signs taken place lately?


17 people like this
Posted by muttiallen
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 15, 2015 at 12:56 pm

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The Stanford Band is an embarrassment to those of us who love the tradition of marching bands. It should be dis-banded. Wait a few years and let Stanford start a 'real' band.


5 people like this
Posted by Craig Laughton
a resident of College Terrace
on May 15, 2015 at 12:59 pm

Stanford Band without alcohol and drugs? I went to Stanford in the late 60's/early 70's. I was not part of the band, but I knew a few members...off the charts and somewhat out of control. I never liked its scramble formations (very puerile, I thought). However, trying to tame it will probably be the end of it, as it has become known...maybe not such a bad thing, because its musical ability is pathetic.


19 people like this
Posted by Bobby G
a resident of Atherton
on May 15, 2015 at 1:46 pm

“Playing in the Stanford Band is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but they should do it in private and wash their hands afterwards.”


17 people like this
Posted by Love them
a resident of Midtown
on May 15, 2015 at 2:26 pm

I love the Stanford Band, their irreverence, crazy dress code and dancing--this from someone brought up on the traditions of the University of Micigan marching band. I hope they clean up their act enough to get back on the road. People love them. Do all bands need to fit one mold or they are 'shameful.'


14 people like this
Posted by ignoranceisbliss
a resident of another community
on May 15, 2015 at 2:38 pm

How quickly some of us forget what it's like to be young and fun...


13 people like this
Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 15, 2015 at 2:51 pm

Please tell me where Sexual Harassment and Hazing fits into "young and fun".

The Stanford Band ceased being funny 30 years ago. Probably the last time they tuned their instruments as well.

And no, they don't have a director (i.e., adult supervision). Dr. Barns was a wonderful director (he penned the arrangement for Stanford's rendition of the Natioinal Anthem) - he is sadly missed by many.


3 people like this
Posted by Long Time Resident
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 15, 2015 at 2:55 pm

Require members of the band to adhere to Stanford's "Honor Code" and mandatory drug testing.


6 people like this
Posted by Roscoe
a resident of another community
on May 15, 2015 at 3:05 pm

Does not the general population of the university do the same things? The band is probably not much different than the non band students in their "activities".


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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 15, 2015 at 3:12 pm

I'm assuming you're talking about drugs/alcohol and not the other stuff...

Of course they do. But the difference is that they represent the university and therefore are held to a higher standard. Just like the athletes. And didn't Stanford put some fraternities on probation?


10 people like this
Posted by oppose sexual harassment
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 15, 2015 at 8:23 pm

I oppose sexual harassment going on in the Stanford "band." I also don't think much of their musicianship, though they have egos the size of Detroit. As for the image of this outfit - yuck.


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Posted by Jimmy
a resident of College Terrace
on May 16, 2015 at 12:18 am

I love that band and am proud to be affiliated with them; anti-establishment, anti-USC, and their overall rebelious nature is always refreshing for me. They're the funnest University marching band that I know of (not saying a lot). However, this disciplinary event provides them with an opportunity to change for the better IMHO. Change in a way that allows your artistic and societal expressions to be more broadly heard (and discussed). LSJUMB, look in the mirror dudes, you are awesome but you are not perfect. As Stanford students, I expect you'll sit down, discuss your alternatives and come back with a much improved band-plan!

Bottom line: You like too many things and you get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till you drop. This is the night, what it does to you. You had nothing to offer anybody except yout own confusion.

The best teacher is experience and not through someone's distorted point of view.

The only truth is music.

Come back with an improved Band Plan!!!!! Love you guys.

Best, Col

p.s. please never lose Golgi Apparatus from your repertoire.


2 people like this
Posted by captain howdy
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 16, 2015 at 12:33 am

Imagine if the Furd band mocked islam the same way they they loved trashing Catholics when Notre Dame would visit


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Posted by Sparty
a resident of another community
on May 16, 2015 at 1:20 am

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>How quickly some of us forget what it's like to be young and fun...

Young and fun includes sexual harassment? Then again we are talking Stanford, founded by a man who was happy to employ--at a reduced wage-- "the dregs of Asia."


4 people like this
Posted by So
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 16, 2015 at 11:12 am

What they are being sanctioned for happened in 2011-2012. I see a lot of comments by people that think they know what the band is about and don't. Seems like they have dealt with the issues in a responsible manner while still allowing the fun and the irreverent behavior. I think some have forgotten their own youthful antics, and I hope I never get so out of touch and rigid. Please see their facebook page for the band's take on this.


11 people like this
Posted by dennis
a resident of Fairmeadow
on May 16, 2015 at 6:56 pm

Without a doubt the Stanford band is the worst college band in the country, in fact any high school marching band in the country is better that what we have at Stanford. This is so absurd to think that the number one all around sports department in the United States has such a poor excuse for a band. Yes, it was avantgarde back in the the old hippie days, but that premise has disappeared decades ago. What an embarrassment! Our band looks like crap, can only play one song; (Alright now) by Free, cannot march and screwed our football team back in 1981 in the Big Game. And the tree is just as bad. Just where is the elegance of bands like the ones that march in the Rose Bowl Parade, or the majesty of a Trojan warrior on a white horse like USC. Give us alumni something to be proud of, a uniformed world class marching band with a mascot that matches the warrior pride of the football team, and do it now. We cannot stand another year of the worst band ever!


4 people like this
Posted by Not that!
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 17, 2015 at 12:12 pm

Oh no only home games? How will they ever recover from such a severe punishment. Good thing Stanford takes sexual harassment so seriously. That will really teach them a lesson just like suspending SAE and then rescinding part of the suspension on appeal taught SAE. Let's hope Greg Boardman fixes this like he fixed that.

The Title IX office at Stanford is a joke. Shame on Criswell, she knows that she's doing nothing good.


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Posted by Sparty
a resident of another community
on May 17, 2015 at 1:43 pm

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>that the number one all around sports department in the United States

UCLA is #1

But if you count sports whose 30 year attendance total is less than a single USC home game, then Stanford is tops in those.


2 people like this
Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on May 17, 2015 at 11:04 pm

Sparty - almost...

Stanford wins the annual "Director's Cup" each year...

UCLA is #1 in total NCAA national championships
Stanford is #2
USC is #3


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Posted by Palo Alto Native
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on May 18, 2015 at 1:57 am

Agree with Dennis! The band is a total embarrassment and always has been. And the '81 incident was pathetic.

They've always tried to be wild & crazy in a meager attempt to combat the geek reputation of being a band member.


10 people like this
Posted by Friend of LSJUMB
a resident of Los Altos
on May 18, 2015 at 11:31 am

I have enjoyed the Stanford Band since I was a student in the 70s. The rag tag group of musicians have always pushed the edge of society's acceptable behavior. But I would hope that all college students would do the same as they find their identities. A lot has been said about how the Band does not conform to the traditional marching band style. That's because they are a scatter band and are in good company with the Brown University scatter band. But this is not why I am commenting here. I am writing to let you know about the many good deeds of the Band. This past Saturday these "misfits" were up at the crack of dawn to travel on their own to San Rafael to play at a Special Olympics event. They then hurried back to play at a Children's fair at noon.
On a personal note, my partner of 12 years passed away this January. Dean was a Stanford Bandsman of the 70s and was very proud supporter of the LSJUMB. At the Celebration of Dean's life on March 28th, I asked if the Band could perform at the end of the memorial. It was Spring Break and the Rally Band was in Oklahoma City to support the Women's Basketball team in post season play. Band alumni were stepping up to make sure that Dean would have a proper Band send-off. Unfortunately the women's team was eliminated Friday evening. As the Band made their way back that evening they reached out to the alums and asked if they could play at the memorial. Dressed in black they filed in and played the Stanford Hymn, bringing us all to tears. They then launched into a full blown rally accompanied by the Dollies of the 71 Rose Bowl and several other Dolly alums. It was a joyous end to a day of remembrance.
These "misfits" have hearts of gold. They do all of this on their own time. They do not get college credit for these acts of kindness. Yes, they make mistakes, but to all you critics, think back to your youth, were you perfect? I know I wasn't. I do know that I will always stand by these young men and women who will someday be the CFOs, doctors, attorneys and leaders of our world.Rally on!


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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on May 18, 2015 at 1:08 pm

So now sexual harassment has gone from "young and fun" to making "a mistake". Same with hazing and making people drink a concoction that is created for the sole purpose to immediately enduce vomiting.

I find it interesting that Stanford athletes or Greek societies do not receive the same "young and fun" pass as the band is getting in this thread.


16 people like this
Posted by Stepford
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 18, 2015 at 1:12 pm

Why can't the stanford band just march in lockstep like everybody else?


5 people like this
Posted by add504
a resident of another community
on Aug 16, 2015 at 2:44 pm

Marching band? They're just a herd that just runs around the football field during halftime


7 people like this
Posted by Alumna
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 17, 2015 at 9:59 am

I went to Stanford in the late 70s and the band was an embarrassment THEN: no real musical talent, just a lot of loud noise ( how did any of them get accepted into the band? Did they not have tryouts?), LOTS of drugs, drinking, sex, and possibly sexual abuse.

A lot of fellow STanford students filed complaints, but when has Stanford EVER listened to its students??

I was always surprised, though, that the faculty never listened to the complaints of people who witnessed the antics of the band at their events--those were many and myriad, but if Stanford listened to the complaints, they DID NOTHING!


3 people like this
Posted by old news
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Aug 17, 2015 at 10:36 am

2011?

Obey the rules. Keep the band.

Anyone can field a bunch of automatons that play cruddy marching music.


3 people like this
Posted by WilliamR
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Aug 17, 2015 at 10:51 am

@ old news--

"automatons"-- there's an idea! Why not let the robotics experts at Stanford build a whole marching band of instrument-playing droids?


2 people like this
Posted by Consequences?
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jan 1, 2016 at 12:29 pm

"The band cannot perform at any away games for one year and must adopt a series of reforms, according to the statement."

LSJUMB was at the Pac12 championship game and apparently at the Rose Parade and Rose Bowl. These are not "away games"?


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Posted by Iowan
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Jan 1, 2016 at 1:37 pm

Go Hawks!


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Posted by Curmudgeon
a resident of Downtown North
on Jan 1, 2016 at 1:40 pm

Again?


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Posted by Fun? yuk
a resident of Stanford
on Jan 1, 2016 at 3:00 pm

" will someday be the CFOs, doctors, attorneys and leaders of our world."
This could explain the corruption in so many corporations and governments. They never learned decency, consideration and ethics when they were in school or, apparently, at home.
Young males need training in civilized behavior. Doesn't look like they are getting it here at school. They excuse it, calling it fun. Yuk.


12 people like this
Posted by Paly Alum
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Jan 1, 2016 at 3:42 pm

This is an old article from May of last year. I saw them on TV this morning at the Rose Parade in Pasadena and they looked like their usual bunch of entitled geeks trying to be wild and crazy to defy their geek stereotype. In the end, they are still a bunch of geeks. Since they were admitted to Stanford, they have the discipline to march properly and they should. Stanford should be ashamed of them; many Palo Altans sure are.


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Posted by Grad from long ago
a resident of Addison School
on Jan 1, 2016 at 4:19 pm

If the above is true, why is the Band at the Rose Bowl today (1/1/16) both in the parade and performing (?) at half time? Would like to know how they managed that. Watching them perform (before the producers mercifully cut to something else) my principal thought was, if as we read a very small percentage of those who apply are admitted to Stanford, are THESE the ones who got in? It is hugely embarrassing.


2 people like this
Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jan 2, 2016 at 7:47 am

Well, they've done themselves proud again. No mistaking that they were intentionally poking a stick into Iowa's eye with the frowning farmer and cow-on-the-field formation. Iowa fans booed.

Web Link


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Posted by Irish Stu
a resident of Woodside
on Jan 2, 2016 at 8:33 am

Speaking of the "wacky irreverent" Stanford marching band is there anything lower than the unprovoked and mean spirited attack upon Iowa at halftime of the Rose Bowl? Nothing like displaying your small minded superiority complex
in front of the whole nation. I haven't seen such a blatant case of first rate snobbery since the Omega fraternity tried to get the Deltas expelled from Faber College. Did Dean Wormer work out the halftime show theme?
Hint to Stanford university: when you are truly exceptional you don't need to rub other people's faces in your self perceived wonderfulness.
Tell your marching geek squad that.


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Posted by Poor iowa
a resident of Barron Park
on Jan 2, 2016 at 10:46 am

LOL. The overdone outrage by the last two poStern is hilarious. Poking a stick in Iowa eye? Unprovoked and mean spirited attack? Get over yourselevs. It was another irreverent performance by the band. The Iowa fans should have been booing their team who was made to look like a high school team by stanford. And what about that outrage of a performance by the Iowa band-- complet with a jackbooted drum major in an outfit reminiscent of a certain German military organization?


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Posted by Etchesketchy
a resident of Stanford
on Jan 2, 2016 at 11:52 am

I hope Elena will find out why the band was allowed to play at the rose bowl despite the fact that it was banned from traveling including post season. [Portion removed.]


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Posted by Etchesketchy
a resident of Stanford
on Jan 2, 2016 at 12:00 pm

Also what a horrible performancehat [portion removed]? Ha ha you're farmers and we're rich?


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Posted by No ban
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 2, 2016 at 12:40 pm

Obviously the ban was just for the regular season. Etchesketchy complains about the band but has no problem denigrating them. Way to go Stanford band


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Posted by in a row
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 2, 2016 at 2:42 pm

The Stanford band does not and cannot pull off unconventional with fun (maybe for them).

That may have been a thing of the past.

Saw them last year at the Rose Bowl, boring and not fun then.

Web Link

New artistic direction would not hurt - any arts at Stanford?


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Posted by Sad
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Jan 2, 2016 at 2:52 pm

Their behaviors is typical of the arrogance that has gripped this whole area for a number of years now... Time to revisit our local attitudes IMHO.


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Posted by Irish Stu
a resident of Woodside
on Jan 2, 2016 at 5:11 pm

Unfortunately someone has absolutely defended the "irrelevant" (that is, snobbish and unprovoked)halftime Rose Bowl show of the Stanford band and found it perfectly proper and right to make a national display of Stanford's elitist arrogance and just plain rudeness. Time to once more compare the Stanford band to the cartoonishly snobbish Omega fraternity from Animal House.
I can't imagine anyone in Iowa acting half as childishly as Stanford University and their band did and it's time to rethink who are really the superior ones here.


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Posted by Poor iowa
a resident of Barron Park
on Jan 2, 2016 at 5:32 pm

My dear Irish stu. I am just expressing my opinion. I will say again the Stanford band did nothing wrong. [Portion removed.] Stanford clearly was superior yesterday-- both the football team and the band. Plus we are academically superior to any big 10 school. Not sure really why you are spending g so much time vilifying stanford and the band. [Portion removed.]


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Posted by Irish Stu
a resident of Mountain View
on Jan 2, 2016 at 6:35 pm

[Portion remoevd.] That the Stanford football team was superior
yesterday is hardly in doubt. But as for the Stanford marching band they try desperately to downplay the fact that they are mere band geeks simply marching around playing band instruments. So they attack and mock people they think cannot and will not hit back. But like fifth graders, who tease and bully third graders (for being little kids) it's the Stanford band itself that is degraded and humiliated by their actions here. Not the people of Iowa who have actual manners and don't get a charge by mocking others. [Portion removed.]


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Posted by Poor iowa
a resident of Barron Park
on Jan 2, 2016 at 6:48 pm

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Posted by Was that a dairy cow?
a resident of another community
on Jan 2, 2016 at 6:49 pm

A few points. This article did say that their sanction included post season. This is not rich against poor, there are plenty of poor folks in the San Francisco area, they asked me for money while visiting there. There are also "rich" people in Iowa, we even have cities and tall buildings! Our band is a traditional band and I would be fine if the were anything but disrespectful. This "band" has become the story and taken away from the football victory. You are correct our football team wasn't good yesterday. Mccaffrey may be one of the best college football players I have seen play. Oh yeah, dairy cow..... Iowa is not known as a dairy producing State but, I believe California is the number one dairy State in the country.


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Posted by Irish Stu
a resident of Mountain View
on Jan 2, 2016 at 7:06 pm

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Posted by Poor iowa
a resident of Barron Park
on Jan 2, 2016 at 7:26 pm

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