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Armed robbers hit twice in downtown Palo Alto

 

Two men -- one brandishing a black handgun -- robbed a couple walking at Bryant Street and Addison Avenue shortly before 8 p.m. Wednesday and two men robbed a man at gunpoint in the 500 block of Fulton Street at 11:22 p.m., police Lt. Sandra Brown reported today (Oct. 28).

In the first robbery, a couple in their 30s was robbed of a laptop computer and a wallet with credit cards. In the second, the robbers got a messenger bag containing an iPad and other items, Brown said.

While descriptions of the men were similar, Brown said it could be that the robbers were different individuals who may have been working together.

One of the men in the earlier robbery wore a white sweatshirt and blue jeans and was of medium height, about 150 pounds, in his 20s and with a dark complexion. The victims could not describe the second robber. The second robber wore a light-gray sweatshirt.

In the later robbery, one robber wore a black sweatshirt and blue jeans and was described as about 5 feet 10 inches tall and about 170 pounds. Both robbers were described as Hispanic.

The robbery victims were not injured.

Police detectives Thursday (Oct. 28) were interviewing neighbors to see if anyone saw anything, Brown said.

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Posted by Enough!
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Oct 28, 2010 at 10:51 am

I hope the police look for people OTHER than the people described above. Maybe even look at some women. Wouldn't wanna be guilty of racial profiling!


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Posted by Chris Zaharias
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 28, 2010 at 11:09 am

That's it, I'm gonna start packin' when in downtown PA.


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Posted by D
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 28, 2010 at 11:10 am

I doubt the robbery that took place on Addison/Bryant would have happened if Obama was still dining at that Google exec's house there.


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Posted by Sarah
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 28, 2010 at 11:37 am

Of what possible use are these 'descriptions'? Be on the lookout for what, a man wearing clothes? Very helpful.
Let's cut the PC, and tell us what we need to know.


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Community Center
on Oct 28, 2010 at 11:49 am

The PAPD has explicitly said in newsprint and reprinted on this PA Online that if a resident/s see a person/s in a neighborhood* (in which they are thought not to live or belong) - and they weren't doin' nuthing, the PAPD will not respond -( I guess until they are doin' sumthin). This PAPD is so scared of 'racial profiling' that it is abandoning investigative common sense and putting us all at risk. Time to change the thinking at City Hall and the PAPD and tune out the bleeding hearts.


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Posted by Pluck Yer Magic Twanger Froggie
a resident of Menlo Park
on Oct 28, 2010 at 1:01 pm

The Police Chief lost her job over one little comment about so-called profiling


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Posted by Rob
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 28, 2010 at 3:01 pm

I sleep with a loaded shotgun and handgun. My friends that told.me I was ridiculous to do it in Downtown PA are now eating their words.

If I witnessed this I would not hesitate to run outside and do what is necessary to ensure the victim's safety. We all need to be ready.


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Posted by Blaine
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 28, 2010 at 3:14 pm

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Posted by castle law
a resident of another community
on Oct 28, 2010 at 3:30 pm

Rob, your intentions are note worthy, but don't be a hero in a society that supports victims. Yes California and the bay area would rather you be a poor helpless victim then stand up for your rights to live freely without thugs bothering you. Talk to your local reps, enact the castle law, in the last 2 years it was deemed that law enforcement has no responsibility to respond and or aid citizens, it is a service, but at the federal level not mandated. If local law enforcement does not "have to" help us, who will? I carry each and everyday, in a state that respects my 2nd amendment right, I don't get into trouble, I volunteer at a local church group, I work with youth groups, and my firearms have never hurt anyone, but shall a day come where myself or an innocent bystander is put in harms way, I have the right to do the right thing. Your living in the wrong area, only the rich and famous get armed body guards, the rest of us are useless worker drones feeding the mouths of the minority wealthy in the bay.


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Posted by danos
a resident of another community
on Oct 28, 2010 at 4:41 pm

Blaine - Amen. Very well put.

Just as an insurgency cannot survive without support from the local population, gangs could not survive without the tacit acceptance and even - through the rallies and constant harassment of law enforcement you cite - support of their 'community'.

But of course there is no political capital to be gained by supporting the police or standing up for law and order. Crying about victimization is clearly more productive.


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Posted by ,
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Oct 28, 2010 at 5:07 pm

cops seem to follow ''minorities'' who arent doing anything. they follow you for blocks . its not race thats the problem, its thieving public officials who get DUI"S and its covered up. clean up your own backyard before you fear ''criminals''.an ambulace overturned, a drunk cop could have done that same thing.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 28, 2010 at 5:22 pm

Open the Rich May Field as soon as possible. The more youth programs for fatherless young men, the better.


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Posted by iphonegrrri
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 28, 2010 at 5:25 pm

Who could be surprised? The street-level drug dealing's out of control in the Downtown area. Everyone can recognize the who drug dealers are - and they ain't selling marijuana, they're selling meth and coke in the parking lots after dark. So of course hooligans are robbing pedestrians for stuff to trade/pawn for drugs. Half of the blocks around Downtown scarcely even have streetlights. Palo Alto doesn't have even the basics of street-level crime suppression. Not that the city council cares anyway.


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Posted by Chuck
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 28, 2010 at 6:19 pm

I wish the police would follow me. Would you take a chance and try to commit a crime on my person with an officer in the area?


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Posted by Mlle. Gillette
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 28, 2010 at 6:44 pm

I wish my husband would let me have a gun... I am a walker and I don't want to be attacked and robbed. I hate drug addicts. They are despicable with no conscience... call them whatever race they are... just arrest them... get them off the street. Don't make excuses for them, like poverty or lack of a male role model. They are WRONG. They are evil.


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Posted by Blaine
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 28, 2010 at 8:52 pm

To "Resident of Evergreen Park", again, whatever perception that you and others have of the police following minorities for no reason, absolutely pales in comparison to the self-inflicted problems created within minority communities. Please stop enabling these thugs and painting them as the victims here. Use your time and energy to make changes within that community. The problem is not the police, schools, government, or society at this stage. The much bigger problem involves people that are allowed to embrace a thug lifestyle, a vastly disproportionate number of minorities that comprise street gangs, and a lack of basic societal values. All of these problems that comprise the vast majority of street crime and violence, and your response is to point fingers at public officials. It is precisely that lack of responsibility and failure to be accountable that leads young people down a path of crime, gangs, and substance abuse. Wake up and figure it out.


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Posted by Castle Law
a resident of another community
on Oct 28, 2010 at 9:26 pm

Gillete, get involved in local/state politics, at the current moment you are not legally able to carry a firearm on your person, concealed in a bag and or under your shirt/pants, etc. While out in public 99.9% of the time. (if your rich, famous, and or a politician the great state of California lets you, but for us ordinary folk that is not the case) You're life would be worse off then getting robbed, beaten, or even killed, thanks to the anti-gun (anti freedom/self respect/and criminal supporting government of California) The open carry is also a joke, you can't carry a loaded fire arm which makes it no better then a large paper weight. If you are concerned about your safety look into Tasers, the law is not specific at the moment as to what a Taser (brand/handgun style stun device) is classified as. You will most likely be hassled if your caught with it concealed, but it is not considered lethal force and therefore last I checked did not require permits (which like i mentioned are impossible to get) Having said that, I have seen plenty of people tazed in my line of work, and if they are on drugs, and or heavy set, wearing thick clothing, its once again useless.


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Posted by Steve C
a resident of Menlo Park
on Oct 28, 2010 at 9:57 pm

The iPad will probably solve this crime.


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Posted by steve C
a resident of Menlo Park
on Oct 28, 2010 at 9:59 pm

Rob. You sleep with a loaded shotgun and a handgun? Get a wife!


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Posted by Castle Law
a resident of another community
on Oct 28, 2010 at 10:11 pm

Nothing wrong with sleeping with a loaded shotgun, its his right, and the fact that he exercises it is admirable. He is self reliant, and able to fend for himself in the case of someone attacking him or his family. If only Californians would get that, instead the state is filled with "me" "me" "me" people who want everyhing handed to them.


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Posted by Chris Zaharias
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 28, 2010 at 11:34 pm

I say about, oh, 500 of us organize neighborhood watches downtown, with a special emphasis on making the drug dealers' lives so miserable that they give up and move to other areas.

Groups of 5 of us doing 2-hour rounds in 10-20 locations in Palo Alto, carrying video cameras and with a known website (PACrime.com, don't know if it's taken) to post everything to. No one can tell us citizens that we can't post videos/photos of what we think is suspicious drug activity, and - thought the site won't make any claims - won't Mom & Dad be thrilled to see their son/daughter giving money to some scraggly creep and getting something small they immediately put in their pocket?

Just a thought, but that's the type of thing that works. WE have to want a clean, safe town more than they want to sell or buy drugs IN our town.


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Posted by HEY
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 29, 2010 at 1:28 am

ARNT THEIR CAMERAS IN DOWNTOWN PALO ALTO...THERE AT LEAST HAVE TO BE SOME FOOTAGE AROUND THERE


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Posted by Anony Mouse
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 29, 2010 at 1:52 am

Why would anyone here fret about this?

If you're ever robbed, just be compliant and also give them your smart phone. Just be sure to run a geographical tracking program like Google Latitude or Loopt on your phone.

Then go straight to the police, log onto the appropriate website and track the phone's location with the cops.

Problem solved within minutes! You're safe, you'll get all your stuff back, the bad guys will go to jail, and you'll have a fun story to tell your friends.


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Posted by Jennyt
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 29, 2010 at 9:45 am

I saw what seemed like every cop car in Palo Alto in Crescent Park on Universtiy Ave Thursday evening, looking like they were arresting some people. Anyone know if the police have arrested the robbery suspects?


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Oct 29, 2010 at 10:37 am

Some of these comments are insane.


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Posted by Brian
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Oct 29, 2010 at 11:03 am

Yes, Hmmm. You have to let them rant. Remember that this forum is where they feel free to "come out". I think they go to bed at night dreaming of using their guns against all of the lowlife that they imagine is crawling around here. Keep your head down. I know I will.


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Oct 29, 2010 at 11:19 am

Flak jackets are needed, Brian! A PA cop recently told me that downtown is actually pretty safe, comparatively speaking. Unfortunately, one of the side effects of that is that people overreact when things do happen. How to keep it safe so that people don't have to lower their standards w/out trying to turn it into a police state or let the lynch mob state of mind rule? That's the hard part.


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Posted by LHB
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 29, 2010 at 12:41 pm

So you are going to pull out a gun and shoot it to defend your wallet? When that stray bullet kills a kid taking out the garbage it will be OK because your wallet is REALLY important.

(I was born and raised in the wilds of Northern Michigan which is a total gun culture, and the only people who carry guns around, as opposed to using them for hunting and target competitions, are wimps who can't take care of themselves. Little men who want to pretend they are super cool and have big business.)


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Posted by univibe
a resident of Greendell/Walnut Grove
on Oct 29, 2010 at 2:35 pm

''self inflicted'' problems of ''minorities''. like having no father is ''self inflicted''. get a life. overpopulation is the problem really. you cannot blame a child for not having a father.whites just dont understand. thats okay. what will happoen will happen. asteroids happen when they happen so did fall of roman empire. no need to hate on ''minorities''. your own life is unpredictable.


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Posted by Dr. W
a resident of Stanford
on Oct 29, 2010 at 3:06 pm

Get a life y'all. It's the WHITE capitalists of this country and world who are robbing us ALL blind. If you had a clue about fairness, love, and compassion, no one would have to resort to toting guns and robbing (rich white) people.


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Posted by Nora Charles
a resident of Stanford
on Oct 30, 2010 at 5:42 am

Blaire, great comments. You should be on the City Council! We need more such voices of reason.

What about the old practice of cops walking the beat? Police presence would certainly be a deterrent to these thugs. Also, I'd like as detailed a description of the robbers as possible. I see nothing wrong with racial profiling; shouldn't safety trump political correctness? Last night when I was out running errands after dark, alone, it would have been great to know who to watch out for.





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Posted by Blaine
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 31, 2010 at 3:10 pm

Univibe, it's not a matter of black and white, nor does it have to do with over-population. There you go again with the excuses and finger pointing. It's a population problem. It's a whites are incapable of understanding problem, life is like an asteroid problem, enough already. It's a matter of making the right and wrong decisions, no matter who are or where you come from. The decisions you make dictate the life you lead. No one is destined for a path of crime. They choose it.


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Posted by upward
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 31, 2010 at 3:48 pm

read ''w'' of stanford,that is the best comment about white people robbing the world. close this topic.


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Posted by Blaine
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 31, 2010 at 4:33 pm

And whatever that commentary happens to be upward, or at least your perception of it, pales in comparison to what that attitude creates in terms of victimization, excuse making, and sorry justification for criminal behavior. The cries of the weak. I agree, white collar crime is a problem, but we need to work on the street crimes perpetrated by gangs and violent criminals that effect our lives every day. Stay focused on some reality, and stop diverting the attention from where the problems truly exist. There are countless victims of violent crimes, especially those committed within the inner-cities and minority communities in this country. Ask those residents if they feel they more threatened by gangs, thugs, and drug dealers, or an investment banker who embezzled cash. You can read any paper in the Bay Area and there are stories of gang shootings, drug warfare, street robberies, home burglaries, and drunken assaults. I think that is what reasonable people are worried about, and where reasonable people want their police resources committed. Now this topic is closed.


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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Nov 1, 2010 at 2:24 pm

Is it racial profiling to report the news with as much accurate detail as is useful?

I'm not versed in the decision by news organizations to not allow racial and ethnic description details. Does that come from the police not giving out the descriptions to the public and then the news outlets can't report the descriptions, or is it a decision made by the news organization? There are several definitions of racial profiling & not all pertain to police behavior.

It just makes sense that gender, age, race/ethnic background, clothing description and size of the person who committed a crime be useful information to have, and the latter of course is the most easily changed aspect of the description.

I worry about street crime AND the "white investment bankers" who also rob people. But when I'm out & about running errands, who do I need to watch out for? The street criminals, of course. One doesn't trump the other, it's a matter of what you're cautious about & when.


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Posted by Blaine
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Nov 1, 2010 at 8:42 pm

Well said Hmmmm. You're right, both the street level criminals and the investment bankers need to be held to justice, however, it's the street level criminal that is going to carjack and kill you for no reason, terrorize your neighborhood, strip you of your peace of mind, and ruin your quality of life on a daily basis. That is who the street level police need to target. The officer on the beat does not have the duty I believe to investigate and pursue the investment bankers. We do need to support them in getting these thugs off the street.


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Posted by Patrick
a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 2, 2010 at 12:16 am

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