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Attempted homicide in Mountain View

 

A local man, with the aid of a friend, was able to get himself to the hospital Saturday night after a group of teens beat him and stabbed him multiple times with a screwdriver in Mountain View, police said.

The 24-year-old victim was walking toward Whisman Park to take the Stevens Creek Trail home shortly after 11:30 p.m. on Saturday (Sept. 25) when a group of teenage boys jumped the man -- ostensibly for no reason -- said Liz Wylie, a spokeswoman for the Mountain View Police Department.

Police received a call from neighbors at 11:43 p.m. who said the mugging took place at Walker Drive and Taylor Court, Wylie said. The teens fled into the park and onto the trail, witnesses said, and police ultimately contacted the boys as they were exiting the trail near Middlefield Road. After detaining several boys, the police received word that the victim was in stable condition and being treated for stab wounds from a screwdriver.

Police located the screwdriver, and three of the teenage boys -- two 16 and one 17, all from Mountain View -- were booked into juvenile hall and charged with attempted homicide, Wylie said. Two other teens were detained but not charged.

The investigation is still in progress, Wylie said. Police believe the incident may have been gang related and are attempting to determine if others were involved.

— Nick Veronin

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Posted by web visitor
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Sep 29, 2010 at 8:16 pm

How sad.


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Posted by Shocked
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2010 at 9:31 pm

What a horrible thing... Thank goodness the perpetrators were apprehended. I hope they will be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


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Posted by Disgusted
a resident of Mountain View
on Sep 29, 2010 at 10:11 pm

This is a shockingly violent crime. These teens sound like a pack of pit bulls. How can humans fall so low to do something so disgusting as this? Drugs? Poverty? I think the punishment should extend to their families for their total neglect and irresponsibilty in raising the worst type of humans and unleasing them on our community.


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Posted by @ Disgusted
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 29, 2010 at 10:33 pm

I feel a little disgusted myself, for you actually trying to blame their families. Alot of times, kids turn out bad because their parents are always working, trying to make their kids lives better. Maybe you can blame an older sibling or a bad influence on the kid, but usually never can you blame a mother or a father. Unless of course, you can prove that they raised them to be that way...


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Posted by Outside Observer
a resident of another community
on Sep 29, 2010 at 11:44 pm

"Disgusted" has it right.

You breed it, you are responsible for it's actions until it is a legal adult.


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Posted by wow
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 30, 2010 at 3:14 am

wow, now the blaming game begins, and these kids will never get to grow up....


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Posted by mv
a resident of South of Midtown
on Sep 30, 2010 at 7:45 am

I never visit Mountain View after dark. Plenty of shops and restaurants in Palo Alto. I ask my friends from Mountain View to come visit me.


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Posted by Data driven
a resident of Green Acres
on Sep 30, 2010 at 7:59 am

Don't know the teens involved, but can make some generalizatioons based on data, and suggest we stop rewarding having babies without married fathers in the house, and stop rewarding easy-leaving ( no-fault divorce) We have changed our social fabric with our reward system for poor choices and behavior, and are paying the price. Change it back.

Seventy-two percent of adolescent murderers grew up without fathers. Sixty percent of America's rapists grew up the same way.
Source: D. Cornell (et al.), Behavioral Sciences and the Law, 5. 1987. And N. Davidson, "Life Without Father," Policy Review. 1990.

The proportion of single-parent households in a community predicts its rate of violent crime and burglary, but the community's poverty level does not.
Source: D.A. Smith and G.R. Jarjoura, "Social Structure and Criminal Victimization," Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency 25. 1988.

Only 13 percent of juvenile delinquents come from families in which the biological mother and father are married to each other. By contract, 33 percent have parents who are either divorced or separated and 44 percent have parents who were never married.
Source: Wisconsin Dept. of Health and Social Services, April 1994.

Compared to boys from intact, two-parent families, teenage boys from disrupted families are not only more likely to be incarcerated for delinquent offenses, but also to manifest worse conduct while incarcerated.
Source: M Eileen Matlock et al., "Family Correlates of Social Skills..." Adolescence 29. 1994.

Seventy percent of juveniles in state reform institutions grew up in single- or no-parent situations.
Source: Alan Beck et al., Survey of Youth in Custody, 1987, US Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1988.

The relationship between family structure and crime is so strong that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship between race and crime and between low income and crime. This conclusion shows up time and again in the literature.
Source: E. Kamarck, William Galston, Putting Children First, Progressive Policy Inst. 1990


The likelihood that a young male will engage in criminal activity doubles if he is raised without a father and triples if he lives in a neighborhood with a high concentration of single-parent families.
Source: A. Anne Hill, June O'Neill, "Underclass Behaviors in the United States," CUNY, Baruch College. 1993



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Posted by Tim
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 30, 2010 at 8:30 am

Always be aware of your suroundings. Remember years ago, a man was beaten to death in Palo Alto, just a block from the police building.


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Posted by Data Checker
a resident of Meadow Park
on Sep 30, 2010 at 8:58 am

Data driven, I agree with your message, however you really need to have more current data to support your claims. Times, and study results/conclusions, have changed in the 16 years since your most recent citation.


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Posted by palo alto mom
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 30, 2010 at 10:05 am

Studies have also shown that teenage boys are at the pinnacle of absolute impulsivity and high amounts of testosterone from recent puberty. Teenage boys, in general, have a penchant towards feeling the "high" from even horrible physical crimes along with absolute apathy towards their victims. Get them into a pack mentality, everything is worse.

Think everything has changed so much since the "good ol' times" of "The Greatest Generation"? Read a bit about teenage mob mentality of the 1930's, and especially about the last lynching done in San Jose in 1933 of the accused kidnappers of Brooke Hart.

We are ALL ruthless animals inside. The quicker we all understand that this violence and brutality is in ALL of us, the quicker we can begin to teach our society's children (and ourselves) how to be a "hero", and possibly the lone dissenting voice in the crowd.


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Posted by G TOWN
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Sep 30, 2010 at 11:58 am

Wanna be gangsters.Foolish...mountain view wants to be known as gangster vill.bunch of squares influenced by san jose and e.p.a.thought yall was going to get away,bet you never thought you wake up facing murder charges scared now.to late for all that, two choices show acountability and man up or turn SNITCH.some body will pay the price santa clara with its highest conviction rate will make sure.glad to hear victim survived and hope he is doing better.


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Posted by G TOWN
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Sep 30, 2010 at 12:28 pm

Alot of people comments are off the wall.do any of you have children and were all of you part of a house hold that consist of two parents?I use this web site to stay tuned on whats going on and to sharpen my awareness skills.people always puting people down on this site,not cool that says alot about you.I come from the hood so what means nothing when you know its all about getting out.I have 5 children and love them all and yes they have both parents under one roof and yes we are married and yes they are doing realy well in life but they make thier on choices and as long as there is a right and wrong they will all ways have one or another to choose from.Just like the choice i made to be a father and husband.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 30, 2010 at 12:32 pm

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

If this is found to be a "Gang" thing, then file the same charges against every member of that gang. Gang membership is the force multiplier of the coward, and so the downside of gang membership, common responsibility for the criminal act of any member, needs to be demonstrated.


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Posted by Anon.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 30, 2010 at 12:50 pm

Hey Data-driven ... some good info there ... but, isn't that like saying let's make better Americans? We are failing at that at all levels. Look at what is going on in the highest levels too.

The kid who played Tony Soprano's son on the HBO series mugged someone in a mall with some of his friends, with a screwdriver too I think. He was let off.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Anyway ... I think people's comments are bound to be off the wall. I boot my computer and look at this news and what the hell do you say to such senseless violence. I go on the Steven's Creek Trail all the time ... do I have to not go there now because of worries about violence?

How much money has been invested in infrastructure that is unsupportable if it requires to be Police guarded every moment of the day.

I think it has got to be a lot cheaper in the long run to fix our social problems than to sustain this dysfunctional social system we have now that is all about reacting to negativity. It's a long uphill slog, and we would not be there if we had not been selling off our country and its infrastructure over the last 40 years.

What do you say to this kind of story? I would think it might be a good idea to embarrass the hell out of the family as well - at least worth a try. Put their pictures in the paper. Whatever income level, class or group they belong to might get the idea there is something wrong and respond on their own.

Who unleashes kids like this on the world?


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Posted by Shocked
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2010 at 3:45 pm

To Wow who said;

"wow, now the blaming game begins, and these kids will never get to grow up...."

Are you trying to find an excuse for those "kids" and their horrible behavior? There is absolutely NO excuse for what they did.


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Posted by NJ2CA Mom
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 1, 2010 at 9:56 am

Short of implanting my 11YO with a tracking device, I make sure I know where he is at ALL times. And these types of behaviors snowball from bad, uncorrected behavior from years earlier. Mouthing off, disrespecting elders - sorry, I'm old country/East Coast and it is NOT cool to address your elders by their first name. It is *MR* and *MRS* and *MS* and *MISS.

We are giving kids more autonomy in so many areas but not requiring the responsibility that comes with it. What the *&() were they doing out so late?

No leniency for violent crimes, juvenile or not. One strike, you're out. No sympathy for these scumbags.


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Posted by Palo Alto Dad
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 1, 2010 at 11:50 am

"palo alto mom" posted:
"The quicker we all understand that this violence and brutality is in ALL of us, the quicker we can begin to teach our society's children (and ourselves) how to be a "hero", and possibly the lone dissenting voice in the crowd."

Walter_E_Wallis posted:
"If this is found to be a "Gang" thing, then file the same charges against every member of that gang. Gang membership is the force multiplier of the coward, and so the downside of gang membership, common responsibility for the criminal act of any member, needs to be demonstrated."

Well said, both of you. I think it is important to recognize that many kids (& adults, for that matter) feel the need to "fit in" in ways that we parents often do not approve and that many of these kids wouldn't do what they do if they weren't in a group. When it comes down to it, most of these gang members ARE cowards. They join because they are afraid and continue to be afraid if alone. Then they lash out, often at the innocent, when they are in their group, their cowardice masked by other emotions.

The ones who are not cowards stand up and say No. And this is the type of thing we should be pushing with our kids. The real challenge is standing up without getting in too much trouble as a result. It is often a fine line our kids are walking with all the cliques, gangs and groups out there.

Parental communication is key. Sometimes that is through someone else, such as a teacher or other member of the community, such as a sports coach. Let's keep reaching out to our young people. If your kids are under control, maybe you can help reach out to others who might need some help...


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Posted by Palo Alto Dad
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 1, 2010 at 11:58 am

"NJ2CA Mom" posted:

"No leniency for violent crimes, juvenile or not. One strike, you're out."

I agree. The question, however, is how far "out" do you send them? Reform school? Jail? If we send a kid who is on the edge (could get better or worse) to someplace where there are more "bad seeds" we run the risk of that kid never returning to a respectable place in society... If we instead get these kids into a program of mentoring by responsible authority figures (Police Activities League, for example), this could turn them around.

Furthermore, I think something should be done with the parents of these kids. It is rarely the case that a responsible parent ends up with an irresponsible child... And what then happens with the younger siblings of this "bad seed" child...?


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Posted by Cynthia
a resident of another community
on Oct 4, 2010 at 3:46 am

How ironic that the "people" who insist on judging these "kids" parents because of the description of the crime, of course assuming they are minorities-which might be true, are the biggest hypocrites!

Read some of the posts regarding the "suburban" angels-with their downplayed crimes and look at those responses. You'll see responses stating, "these children are good kids, with great futures ahead, and they were just having fun". "They should be put under the supervision of their parents and given another chance to succeed"

Sickening and racist!


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Posted by dont trippp
a resident of Mountain View
on Mar 3, 2011 at 3:55 pm

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