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Can the Memphis police behavior ever happen here?

Uploaded: Feb 1, 2023
What happened in Memphis where seven officers worked almost as a team to beat and kick 29-year-old Tyre NICHOLS is not a singular event in one city. Police beatings have been happening all over the country and, for years, often just went unnoticed. And unreported.

As I watched the horrific videos after the Memphis beating, I wondered could it happen here, right in our home town. Probably not, I decided, but “probably” is not absolutely. We’ve had several incidents over recent years in Palo Alto where officers have acted “inappropriately” and unprofessionally – like bashing a man’s head into a car windshield or letting a police dog attack a sleeping person who the officer mistakenly thought had committed a crime. Or having other police officers in the department refer to one officer as “the fuse,” meaning he was quick to anger and inflict that anger onto innocent individuals.

Palo Alto has paid out millions of dollars (of taxpayers’ money) to settle law suits against the police department because of officer misconduct. The city settled, perhaps because it was less costly to do so than go to trial, or more expedient, but, to me, the settlement suggest that tacitly, the e suits' charges against police behavior were valid.

We have seen here day-after official police reports of an incident that left off parts of what happened in a confrontation – a coverup, so to say, in order for the report to look like the police did a good job.

That is what happened in Memphis this week – the police involved said in their day-after report that Nichols went after them. The video shows that was totally false. The same cover-up happened in the George Floyd arrest.

It’s becoming CYA reporting system.

Most of the time our police departments here and elsewhere are doing a good job. The public standards for police conduct are high in this state, because we demand appropriate professional police behavior, thank goodness. By having police wear video cameras, and having their encounters recorded, has helped police tow the line. For example, having outside investigations of police (e.g, by the OIR Group which has a contract with the city), is great, also because their findings on possible police misconduct are released to the public following their objective investigations. Those reports have helped improve police behavior, because what OIR Group reports to the public goes on an officer’s record.

I called former Palo Alto Police Chief Dennis Burns to get his view on this topic. Burns worked for PAPD for 25 years, the last nine of which he was chief. I’ve known him professionally since that time, and believe he is an honest, straight-shooting, conscientious and compassionate man.

I first asked him about the culture in police departments and whether a police chief can change that culture. He pointed out this country has 18,000 different PDs in this country, and about 18,000 police chefs, so cultures vary considerably. The chiefs are in positions where they can try to change the culture, but also need to have their troops act in accord with the chief and local department rules. Burns also said it is important to note that police officers are public employees, and have their employee rights, which police unions insist on, which also must be upheld.

What about bad apples in the force? What can police chiefs do? Burns said if an officer violates a departmental policy, he (or she) can be disciplined, or punished.

But that’s not always simple. The police unions are there to protect officers, and have, in their contracts, demanded the city agree to certain protections; cities have met those demands.

For example, a police officer can be sent home for a period for questionable behavior, with or without pay. And when a reporter asks the department for his name, it is not released. Yet that same consideration is not given to lay people who are arrested – our names go public almost instantly. Why the double standard?

I asked Burns about the hiring of a police officer. He said a candidate goes through an array of tests (mental and physical) and as chief, he went through each page of a background report on the candidate – the most informative way, because that three-inch-high document contains interviews with his peers, data on his previous performance, a review of his credit cards, including a nonpayment history, any record of this officer’s misconduct, etc.

Years ago, I asked former Police Chief Chris Durkin, who preceded Burns, about his techniques of hiring an officer.

He told me a great story. When a candidate has passed all the police tests with flying colors, he would take the applicant out for a beer “to celebrate” the actual formal hiring the next day. After a second round, Durkin asked one soon-to-be officer what he thought of those two women at the bar. The candidate responded, “They’re probably gay. Look at how they are talking to each other, and sitting so close.” Durkin would ask about that black man sitting alone at the end of the bar. “You can’t trust people that color,” was the answer.” And what about that elderly couple? “Jewish, of course!”

Durkin did not hire the candidate.

I thought the way he found out about this man was a marvelous hiring technique for a police department. It brings out a potential officer’s character and biases.

I wish we could have more chiefs in this country like Dennis Burns and Chris Durkin. I wish departments would stop hiring para-military-type guys (so prevalent in so many departments) who want to become policemen because then they have power and authority and can order people around and of course, carry guns all the time.

Policing is a complicated issue in this country, and it is becoming more so, as evidenced in Memphis. Other countries don’t seem to have the police problems that we do here (nor do they have so many guns). We have to think about how to improve the behavior of these departments to achieve what can be a wonderful system.

Democracy.
What is it worth to you?

Comments

Posted by Jennifer, a resident of another community,
on Feb 1, 2023 at 6:37 pm

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Maybe suspects in other countries are more cooperative with the police. You left out the part that Tyre Foster slipped away from the police and ran 1/2 mile away, and two officers chased after him. Needless to say, that won't end well. Not that it should end in death. The only thing that will end this is COOPERATING WITH THE POLICE. PERIOD. If and when suspects cooperate during a traffic stop or quit resisting arrest when you've committed a crime. You can't blame this one on white supremacy, even though some are trying. I wish we had more suspects in this country that would cooperate with the police. It's the ONLY thing that will change the equation.


Posted by DeShawn Jackson, a resident of East Palo Alto,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 7:33 am

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@Jennifer
Tyre Foster ran because the cops were already beating up on him during the traffic stop. You would too unless you are a sucker for unecessary physical abuse by law enforcement.

The five Memphis police officers were African American and members of an 'elite' police division called The Scorpions...an appropriate monicker for police inflicted brutalities.

Had the officers been white, the city of Memphis would be burning.


Posted by Jennifer, a resident of another community,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 8:19 am

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When the officers pulled him over, there was a confrontation. He refused to get out of the vehicle, so they were pulling him out. He ran when they tased him. The beating occurred after he fled.

Once again, if you COOPERATE with the police. What the officers did was horrific, but preventable.

I agree if the officers were white Memphis would be burning. The fact that all 5 officers are black goes to show that this had nothing to do with white supremacy, which is always the argument.


Posted by Bill Bucy, a resident of Barron Park,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 9:26 am

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It is ridiculous to ask police chiefs to launch dramatic changes in a culture they have embraced and benefited from for decades. Doctors and lawyers are not self-regulating nor should police - with the power of life and death - be allowed to decide what rules, procedures and attitudes are appropriate in their jobs.

Important changes can result only from strong, demanding leadership by elected officials accountable to the people who are policed.


Posted by Bill Bucy, a resident of Barron Park,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 9:26 am

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It is ridiculous to ask police chiefs to launch dramatic changes in a culture they have embraced and benefited from for decades. Doctors and lawyers are not self-regulating nor should police - with the power of life and death - be allowed to decide what rules, procedures and attitudes are appropriate in their jobs.

Important changes can result only from strong, demanding leadership by elected officials accountable to the people who are policed.


Posted by Bill Bucy, a resident of Barron Park,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 9:26 am

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It is ridiculous to ask police chiefs to launch dramatic changes in a culture they have embraced and benefited from for decades. Doctors and lawyers are not self-regulating nor should police - with the power of life and death - be allowed to decide what rules, procedures and attitudes are appropriate in their jobs.

Important changes can result only from strong, demanding leadership by elected officials accountable to the people who are policed.


Posted by Benson Hong, a resident of Castro City,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 9:49 am

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"The fact that all 5 officers are black goes to show that this had nothing to do with white supremacy."

@Jennifer:
The 5 black police officers are part of a violent 'police culture'...colorblind when it comes to harassing & beating people of any race or ethnicity.

The 5 black police officers successfully 'assimilated' into this perverse police culture & are most likely self-hating individuals ashamed of their racial backgrounds.

For some, cooperating with the police is essentially an admission of guilt...this too is a cultural perspective shared by many people of color.


Posted by Jerome Jackson, a resident of another community,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 10:26 am

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@Jennifer...I rarely respond to the PD when their red lights are flashing behind me. I just keep on driving whenever I can.

One incident immediately comes to mind...when I was finally pulled over by a cop (they had a road block set up), I was asked by the arresting officer why I kept speeding up during this pursuit.

My reply, "Because you were catching up."

Being a pacifist, I did not verbally or physically challenge or defy the police but they did get a bit rough while handcuffing me.


Posted by Shaquin Willis, a resident of East Palo Alto,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 11:55 am

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@Jennifer...
Seriously? The police always adhere to the unconstitutional position that one is presumed GUILTY until proven innocent.

The police need to take a refresher course on the U.S. Constitution or relinquish their badges & guns.


Posted by Mariano Lopez, a resident of East Palo Alto,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 12:04 pm

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• "The police always adhere to the unconstitutional position that one is presumed GUILTY until proven innocent."

^ Unless the police are acting on a judge-issued bench warrant, they should release all suspects on their own recognizance pending an arraignment hearing.

And if the defendant is a court no show, a bench warrant can be issued for their arrest.

@Jennifer...that is why suspects flee, because they are going to get screwed regardless if they cooperate with the police


Posted by Smokey and the Bandit, a resident of Mountain View,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 12:45 pm

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Jennifer:
I had a similar experience to Jerome Jackson's except that I called ahead and had my girlfriend open the garage door prior to my expediant arrival.

After slipping the car in and immediately closing the garage door, we watched in amusement as the cop drove by in fruitless pursuit.

We sold the car two weeks later to an unsuspecting buyer just in case the license plates had been noted.

As George Foreman says in his TV appliance commercial, "it's not my problem" (anymore).

BTW...the reason for this trivial pursuit: my 2021 tags were expired. Big deal.


Posted by Victor+Bishop, a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 6:02 pm

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It figures that at least one person , like Jennifer, would blame the victim.
It has already been proven that the police account of what happened was a lie. They were fired very quickly.
But people like Jennifer ignore those facts and cry for the “poor" police. Remember that the police are criminals with a gun and a badge. They usually do this because they know they can get away with it by claiming that they were afraid for their lives and introducing their soiled underwear as evidence


Posted by Jennifer, a resident of another community,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 7:14 pm

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And people like Victor Bishop ignore the fact that he was driving recklessly and refused to cooperate with the police. Then again, he thinks the police are "criminals with a gun and a badge." How pathetic. How sad that some people think we should just let someone go. Driving recklessly could KILL people.

How pathetic that cooperating with the police is a "cultural" thing.


Posted by Victor+Bishop, a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood,
on Feb 2, 2023 at 7:38 pm

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As I stated , the officers report has been discredited,
Did not cooperate???
“ Body camera video shows an arriving officer at the traffic stop pointing a gun. Another shouts, “You're going to get your a-- blown the f--- out."

Nichols is yanked out of his car by an officer, video shows.

Multiple officers hover around him while he is on the ground, yelling sometimes-contradictory commands."


Web Link

And as we all know anytime the police are looking to pull someone over they claim “reckless driving". Given the facts can we believe anything these criminals with a gun and a badge say?
Well, Jennifer does. Sad that she supports the fact that police act as judge jury and executioner,
I hope she feels the same way about Ashli Babbitt!!!


Posted by Ron Morales, a resident of Mountain View,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 6:48 am

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Most of the police officers I have encountered tend to project a bullying personality.

Now whether this is part of their psychological makeup, attributable to their training, or an inherent sense of racism towards certain people of color is for them to clarify.

Victor+Bishop has presented some strong points indicating that there is something psychologically & emotionally awry with many police officers while Jennifer is an apologist for their bad behavior and racist culture.


Posted by Mary Vargas, a resident of Mountain View,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 7:12 am

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> "I hope she feels the same way about Ashli Babbitt!!!"

Had 800 African Americans stormed the Capitol on January 6th, the predominantly white police force would have been locked and loaded and who knows what might have transpired in terms of the potential bloodshed as many of them might have chosen not to adhere to police directives...just like the white insurgents.

Now when the shoe is on the other foot...white cops VS white protesters, the presumed outcome remains vastly different. Imagine the uproar had most of the white insurgents been gunned down or wounded upon storming the Capitol.

Preferential and/or aggravated police response towards certain individuals is both unconstitutional and racist.

Jennifer...do you believe in a level playing field for ALL American citizens or only the white competitors?


Posted by Sydney Youklis, a resident of Menlo Park,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 8:49 am

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I think Jennifer is implying that most African American suspects get physically abused by the police because they resist being beaten prior to getting arrested or detained for further questioning.

It becomes an inherent & split second 'fight or flee' response when dealing with rogue cops regardless of the police officers' color or ethnicity.

Cops are trained to intimidate and the 'good cop-bad cop' tactic is just another ruse for generating self-incrimination whether the infraction or crime was real or unreal.

While defunding police departments is not a viable or practical deterrent to police violence, perhaps police departments throughout the nation should be subject to a comprehensive house cleaning.

In other words, get rid of the rotten apples before they ruin the entire barrel.


Posted by Anthony Washington, a resident of East Palo Alto,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 9:10 am

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• "How pathetic that cooperating with the police is a "cultural" thing."

• "...the 'good cop-bad cop' tactic is just another ruse for generating self-incrimination whether the infraction or crime was real or unreal."

^ Which is why (and speaking as a black person) any day that does not involve interacting with the police is a good day even if one is abiding by the law.

• "In other words, get rid of the rotten apples before they ruin the entire barrel."

^ Often referred to as 'training officers' with a short fuse and a poor temperament for dealing with the public.

Right Jen?



Posted by Bill Wagner, a resident of Downtown North,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 10:11 am

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*chung-chung*
Narrator: In various cities throughout the country, a team of dedicated police officers known as 'The Special Scorpions Unit' are assigned to investigate the heinous crimes of rolling stops and expired vehicle registrations. These are their stories...
*chung-chung*


Posted by Devin Taylor, a resident of Stanford,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 10:47 am

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"The fact that all 5 officers are black goes to show that this had nothing to do with white supremacy, which is always the argument."
@Jennifer
Correct as it has more to do with defusing a false sense of superiority (among countless LEOs) over the average citizen.


Posted by Annette, a resident of College Terrace,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 3:01 pm

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Blog question: Can the Memphis police behavior ever happen here?

I think the answer can only be yes. I also think it is unlikely that a city our size that has an engaged citizenry would have a police force that included a bunch of very bad cops, but heck, I never thought I would be reading about the sort of crimes that are becoming somewhat normal in Palo Alto or about the arrest at Happy Donuts a couple of years ago that got badly out of hand.


Posted by John Donegan, a resident of another community,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 3:25 pm

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These five officers may predict the future of the U.S. police forces. Being a cop requires a demanding skill set, the physical ability and willingness to be able to subdue a violent suspect while occasionally risking your own life, the self-control to be able to restrain and limit yourself in using violence, even when full of adrenaline and fear, and the intelligence to learn the rapidly evolving laws and procedures. The five cops here at the very least failed the "self control" requirement.

In recent decades, the increasing trend has been been to vilify the police, and to depict them as racist thugs. Consider the "defund" movement, etc. The more that public opinion of the police sinks, the harder it will be to find qualified people who want to be cops. Many, if not most, police departments report having difficulty attracting suitable candidates already. What qualified person with other options available will be willing to commit themselves to a career in which they will be reviled, and subject to being scapegoated every time someone is unhappy about an incident or arrest which the media has seized upon to publicize in a quest for readership and clicks? But since we will always need cops to protect us, we will be forced to hire applicants like the 5 cops here - people with a need for violence and domination. Our cathartic venting now will come at a cost.


Posted by MyFeelz, a resident of another community,
on Feb 3, 2023 at 9:18 pm

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The fact that 21 posts don't identify the right person who was beaten and murdered in Memphis, whose last name as NICHOLS... Some poor guy named Tyre Foster is wondering why everyone is lamenting the loss of his life.

Can it happen here? It can happen anywhere. Whether it will make the news or not, that's a horse of a different color.


Posted by Ashley McKenna, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood,
on Feb 4, 2023 at 6:30 am

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"...whose last name as NICHOLS... Some poor guy named Tyre Foster is wondering why everyone is lamenting the loss of his life."

> MyFeelz
Are you absolutely sure?

The article cited a Tyre Foster and my advocacy group just had t-shirts printed that say 'Justice For Tyre Foster & His Family.'

Now what are we going to do?


Posted by Jack Burns, a resident of Los Altos,
on Feb 4, 2023 at 8:08 am

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@Ashley:
you could donate or re-sell the misnamed t-shirts to some 3rd world country unfamiliar with this tragic incident.

that is what they do with MLB & NFL championship t-shirts & caps with the wrong/loser's names pre-printed on them.

have you ever noticed that when a team wins the World Series or Superbowl
the championship clothing is immediately available to the celebrating players?

hint: they print two versions.

so in places like Africa & Central America, some people are sporting t-shirts & caps with the losing team's name on it & they haven't the foggiest idea because most of them do not follow professional American sports.


Posted by Claudia Jenkins, a resident of Old Palo Alto,
on Feb 4, 2023 at 8:47 am

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@Ashley Jenkins...you could also cover the Foster part with tape or have that section re-screened to match the color of the t-shirt.

Then it would simply read Justice for Tyre [blank space] and his family.

Sometimes printing errors can become collector's items like misprinted postage stamps.


Posted by Melanie Palmer, a resident of Downtown North,
on Feb 4, 2023 at 8:57 am

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Ashley:

There is a Tyre Foster on Facebook.

Maybe your t-shirts could be of value and purpose to him and his family in the event of a questionable incident or traffic citation.


Posted by Janice Barr, a resident of Woodside,
on Feb 4, 2023 at 10:04 am

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>> "Can it happen here? It can happen anywhere."

^ Are we referring to the incorrect last name on the printed t-shirts?


Posted by Victor+Bishop, a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood,
on Feb 4, 2023 at 2:15 pm

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Annette- there was this incident about 2 decades ago

Web Link


Posted by MyFeelz, a resident of another community,
on Feb 4, 2023 at 7:40 pm

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"Are you kidding?" Absolutely not. I wouldn't kid about something like that. To quote wiki, "Tyre Deandre Nichols (/?ta?.ri ?n?k.?lz/ TY-ree;[11] June 5, 1993 " January 10, 2023)[12] was a 29-year-old Black man. He worked for FedEx and had a four-year-old son.[13][14] He was also an amateur photographer with a photography website.[15][16][17]" As for the shirts, I would work up another screen with just a black block covering the name Foster. Then make another screen in WHITE ink with Nichols printed over that.

I know your pain, I once had to fix a huge gaffe where a name was misspelled where we were making panoramic prints. With those kind of media, there's nothing to do but start over from scratch. I don't think you would have to go that far though. Just black over, and then white ink over that.


Posted by MyFeelz, a resident of another community,
on Feb 4, 2023 at 7:43 pm

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It could help if the article would amend the error so no one makes the same mistake.


Posted by Marianne Duncan, a resident of Community Center,
on Feb 5, 2023 at 8:18 am

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• "It could help if the article would amend the error so no one makes the same mistake."

These t-shirts are properly printed with the correct last name & cost only $12.95.

Web Link

Wearing an unabridged "Justice for Tyre Foster" t-shirt might raise some questions like "Did it happen again?" and paint the police in an even poorer light.


Posted by Haley McIntire, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis,
on Feb 5, 2023 at 9:05 am

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@Marianne Duncan: I like the design on those t-shirts. Why not incorporate the theme into small circular pins that could be handed out to the police.

Do you think the majority of them would wear these pins to convey their solidarity and support for Tyre and the NICHOLS family?


Posted by Menlo 2024, a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks,
on Feb 5, 2023 at 12:50 pm

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Maybe if Memphis hired some para military officers they would not have had this issue. This group was hired as part of a diversity package.


Posted by Ron Jessup, a resident of Mountain View,
on Feb 5, 2023 at 1:17 pm

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"This group was hired as part of a diversity package."

What kind of diversity package? To ensure that an all-black police squad carry out the the same kind of brutality as their white counterparts?


Posted by Jesse Hamlin, a resident of Midtown,
on Feb 6, 2023 at 10:50 am

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As long as there are poorly trained & bigoted (aka racist) police officers, this kind of incident can happen anywhere.

Yes...even in Palo Alto and other surrounding vicinities.


Posted by staying home, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Feb 6, 2023 at 12:26 pm

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Main article still showing incorrect name. Its Tyre Nichols.


Posted by MyFeelz, a resident of another community,
on Feb 6, 2023 at 5:32 pm

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When I read a newspaper I do a little fact checking. The news has been full of articles, videos, news reports, police press conferences, funeral reports and enough saturation so his name will not be forgotten. Tyre Nichols' case is ongoing. More police officers and EMT's (in fact the white officer who started the whole mess in the first place, but then was too winded to chase after him after tazing him) have been fired and will face charges. The fact that this stop was initiated by a white man needs examining. We ask "could it happen here?" and we already know the answer. And those are just the incidents we KNOW of. Tyre Nichols' beating was essentially a taxpayer funded lynching. This is becoming a blood sport at our expense, and the more we tolerate it the more it will happen. I'm not saying we should defund the police but they are supposed to protect and serve the citizens, not lynch people. I did not hear ANY of the officers say anything like this: "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford a lawyer, one will be provided for you. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?" We aren't hearing those words in ANY of these taxpayer funded lynchings. So, when a person is detained and NOT told what their rights are, THE POLICE ARE IN THE WRONG. Did anybody hear that in ANY of the lynchings we have witnessed over the past 10 years? Last week on Stanford campus -- were those words uttered? No. So, if we are asking if it can happen here, it's ALREADY happening. Being denied civil rights by a law enforcement officer is a crime.


Posted by Cliff Durham, a resident of Mountain View,
on Feb 7, 2023 at 6:18 am

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> "The news has been full of articles, videos, news reports, police press conferences, funeral reports and enough saturation so his name will not be forgotten."

Tyre Foster deserved much better & it is unfortunate & oftentimes tragic that countless law enforcement officers do not adhere to the basic tenets of the Constitution.


Posted by MyFeelz, a resident of another community,
on Feb 7, 2023 at 10:28 pm

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Maybe we oould start a gofund me for Tyre Foster to cover burial expenses. Won't he be surprised.

In all seriousness, his last name is NICHOLS.


Posted by Melinda Patterson, a resident of Old Palo Alto,
on Feb 8, 2023 at 7:41 am

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"In all seriousness, his last name is NICHOLS."

Then why are so many people referencing the last name Foster?

Is it a middle name as in Tyre Foster Nichols or perhaps Tyre Nichols Foster?

Most people have a middle name and some artists adopt alternate names as their first or last names...like Prince, Sting, Meatloaf etc.


Posted by Lucinda Gomez, a resident of Mountain View,
on Feb 8, 2023 at 9:25 am

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In Spanish & Mexican cultures people often have several middle names and go by the one of their choosing.

We rarely change our last names.


Posted by MyFeelz, a resident of another community,
on Feb 9, 2023 at 11:32 am

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[Post removed.]


Posted by MyFeelz, a resident of another community,
on Feb 11, 2023 at 12:20 pm

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Thanking the author for correcting the article got yanked? Next thing you know you'll be taking down my congratulations on a local resident's 108th birthday.


Posted by Olivia Descalso, a resident of Mountain View,
on Feb 11, 2023 at 12:47 pm

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Like Rodney King and George Floyd, Tyrone Foster's name will always be remembered.


Posted by Pauline Rogers, a resident of Los Altos,
on Feb 11, 2023 at 1:15 pm

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Names aren't important as the crux of this article was (1) how to prevent these types of incidents from re-occurring and (2) can it happen in Palo Alto?

The answer to #2 is YES because the police travel to the beat of their own drum.

As for #1, this will require an entirely new police culture.

And so the bottom line is nothing will change.


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