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Nov. 3 -- a critical election -- and now your comments on the first debate

Uploaded: Sep 29, 2020
LET ME INADD TO THIS ORIGINAL BLOG HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR COMMENTS ON ONE OF THE MOST UNUSUAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES OUR COUNTRY HAS EXPERIENCED -- THE FIRST SEPT. 29 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. GO TO THE COMMENT SECTION BELOW AND WRITE YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT., PLEASE.


As we have heard time and again, the Nov. 3 election is the most important this country has faced in decades. That's because we are making a critical choice about the future of our country. If Trump is elected, we face four more years of a country subject to his narcissism, his whims, his insecurities, his dismantling of so many of our domestic agencies and foreign relations, and especially the possible loss of democracy. If Biden wins, we face a quiet, if not boring, four more years, but one based on honesty and an effort to make America America again. The question Democrats silently ask is he capable of turning us around.

I think he is, especially if he appoints the "best and brightest" people to help him run our government.
But there's more on the ballot than just selecting a president (although that is the most critical part). There are state, county and local offices to consider. In Palo Alto, 10 candidates are vying for four seats, and the winners here could also determine the future size and feel of this community -- more growth or retaining the suburban ambiance of the city. In the school board race, six candidates are running for three seats. There's the Foothill-DeAnza Community College race, a county school board race, etc.

Unfortunately, California ballots can be long, especially since there are 10 state propositions to consider. The county has some issues to also be voted on, the water district and school district each one, Caltrain has a measure aptly labeled RR. So, as usual, it's a long ballot. In previous years, some voters have gotten impatient when nearing the end and just declare, "I've had enough" and stick their ballots into the envelopes with a lot of unmarked races. But that's no solution to getting the most competent people to serve on councils and boards.

The ballots arrive on Oct. 3. On Monday, Oct. 5, the Rotary Club of Palo Alto will be holding a virtual debate among all 10 council candidates, starting at 12:30 p.m. Visitors are welcome to view the debates. https://zoom.us/j/8224330584?pwd=MUUrZTUwQmR3aTJJNW9ScUVBeitVQT09

Let's hope Louis DeJoy, U.S. postmaster doesn't screw up the delivery of ballots to our homes, and also that it gets all ballots to the county Registrar of Voters office in San Jose. I hope DeJoy's reach from Washington, DC. does not extend as far as our communities on the West Coast. I suggest voting in mid-October, just to make sure our ballots arrive in time.

As I said, this is a critical election! So there's homework to do -- now. Read the County Voter Information Guide sent to you (47 pages of reading about the candidate bios, and the pros and cons of state and local propositions, because there are some big issues. Go to the League of Voters site or to the County Registrars' offices for additional arguments, and talk about candidates and issues with your friends and neighbors. Read the endorsement editorials in our local, area and state papers. Most of those editorial boards have interviewed candidates, done background searches, and have made knowledge choices.

Don't give up! We don't know how this election will turn out, especially in the presidential race. A lot is at stake here, and our votes count.
We need your support now more than ever. Can we count on you?

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Posted by Lee Forrest, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Sep 29, 2020 at 12:06 pm

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What is lacking in this year's POTUS election (though Trump supporters may beg to differ) is a charismatic and non-divisive candidate who can unite a varied nationwide mindset towards the common good.

His advanced age & perceived diminished mental faculties aside, Biden has had to compromise his platform to pacify the highly unrealistic & socialist-leaning 'Bernie factor' which is appealing to many younger, millennial-aged voters but not so much with more conventional & moderate Democratic Party voters.

With Trump, most voters know what they are getting (for better or for worse..in many instances worse) as he is very outspoken & pulls no punches.

2020 has been a bad year with the Covid-19 pandemic, George Floyd & Breonna Taylor police killings (along with the related street protests/violence/riots), the west coast forest fires and gulf coast hurricanes taking up most of the front page news and headlines.

On one hand, Trump has done a good job playing 'hardball' with the PRC and negotiating an Arab/Israel peace accord (though the Palestinians were sold down the river)...Trump's domestic policies (including his handling of the coronavirus pandemic) leave much to be desired.

All things considered, Biden has not accomplished 'jack' in close to 50 years of public service and meanwhile, Kamala Harris is just chomping at the bit to succeed him...even referring to the ticket at one time as 'Harris-Biden'.

2020 is simply turning out to be another bad year with no end in sight and neither Trump nor Biden will improve matters
significantly.

Counting one's blessings...at least John 'Swift Boat' Kerry isn't running for president.


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Posted by Jennifer, a resident of another community,
on Sep 29, 2020 at 12:25 pm

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This is a very importantly election, but neither candidate are worth voting for. And with all due respect, younger candidates please. There should be a cutoff age for running for president.


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Posted by Lee Forrest, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Sep 29, 2020 at 1:34 pm

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> "There should be a cutoff age for running for president."

^ Interesting point...like maybe 65 years?

The same mandate could be applied to legislators (i.e. United States senators and congress members) BUT such a move would require an amendment to the Constitution and chances are the older members of Congress would oppose it.

The only exception would be the SCOTUS where justices are appointed for life.

A sizable number of the older politicians (over 70) serving in both the executive & legislative branches of American government are seemingly 'out of touch' with modern day realities having spent most of their lives in an entirely different timeframe and world.



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Posted by Lee Forrest, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Sep 29, 2020 at 7:05 pm

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> "This is a very importantly election, but neither candidates are worth voting for."

^ Concurring Jennifer...I am currently watching the presidential debate on TV & have come to the conclusion that both presidential candidates are unworthy of leading the nation for the next four years as both unfurled little more than petty, childish & trivial argumentive barbs with minimal redeeming insights.

As a nation...we are screwed regardless of the eventual November 3rd (or later) election results.


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Posted by Jennifer, a resident of another community,
on Sep 29, 2020 at 7:28 pm

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I'm not watching the debate -- MLB playoffs for me all day. But Trump or Biden is like Trump or Clinton. Unworthy. And the cutoff age -- maybe 55. There are professions that require retirement in early/mid fifties, and I don't think running for president should be done at an age where both candidates have reached their lifespan. We need mental sharpness and someone young enough that we're not concerned they'll die of old age. And most older candidates are "out of touch" even though one of them acts about ten.


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Posted by Chris, a resident of University South,
on Sep 29, 2020 at 8:19 pm

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Posted by Vote!, a resident of Evergreen Park,
on Sep 29, 2020 at 9:39 pm

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Did people really watch the debate and walk away with - oh, these two candidates are just the same, no difference there, we are screwed no matter which one we get? How? Watching our current president, our commander in chief interrupt, be rude and try to generally bully both his opponent and the moderator - and then refuse to condemn while supremacy when directly asked to do that - and then our former Vice President, with his calm and measured voice, trying to talk about policy and direction dn ideas - are they really the same? HOW???


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Posted by Lee Forrest, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Sep 30, 2020 at 7:45 am

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Posted by Resident, a resident of Midtown,
on Sep 30, 2020 at 3:29 pm

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The 'Trump supports white supremacy' thing is a myth and it was really low of Chris Wallace to hammer the topic and goad him into 'denouncing white supremacy' as if Trump had ever supported it in the first place. It's a 100 percent BS narrative and Trump was not willing to play along.
It's this type of dishonesty in the media that always lets Trump get away with his transgressions.


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Posted by Steve Dabrowski, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis,
on Sep 30, 2020 at 6:11 pm

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Sooner or later all this is going to come to a head just as it did in 1860. How it all works out is a good question, but all things do come to an end of sorts. The Civil war ended with a lot of lose ends, we got through several depressions, a War to End All Wars, a pandemic, another World War, a Third Reich that lasted 12 years and transformed the world, a continuing series of large and small conflicts......

This will pass. Trump and his cohorts will slide into history and not be kindly treated, perhaps like Nazi Germany the US will be held in ill repute for a time, and perhaps like Germany after Hitler it will regain its footing and become an example of good again.

Regardless, time will go on and the end of the world will probably not be here for awhile. We will survive Trump, even if he gets another four years, we've been through worse.


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Posted by Victor Bishop, a resident of Another Mountain View Neighborhood,
on Sep 30, 2020 at 7:13 pm

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Disgraceful performance by trump. He was trying to bully Biden, but Biden stood up to him, Biden's “will you shut up, man" comment was golden.
Oh and trump is a racist, a misogynist, a white nationalist and an anti-Semite. He supports the proud boys. He did not disavow the endorsement of David Duke in 2016. And he praised the neo nazis that marched in Charlottesville.


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Posted by Steven Goldstein, a resident of Old Mountain View,
on Sep 30, 2020 at 11:57 pm

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Victor,

Finally I can say we have a complete agreement.

Donald Trump ran his business like this i think. And it make you wonder why he had losses in the last 15 years?

Some people think they can change reality. I am humble to admit I cannot. To Trump if you don't agree with him, you are a "loser", "uneducated", "fake" or "unworthy".

I hope I never made you feel that way, if I did I am so sorry.

But I will cover your 6 on this one and willing to die to protect you.


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Posted by Steven Goldstein, a resident of Old Mountain View,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 12:05 am

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Jennifer,

I agree that for some reason senators and presidents and vice presidents are much older than they are required.

The Constitution only requires a president to be natural born in the U.S., 35 yrs old and the least 14 years in the U.S.

I wish our system would be a merit based leadership process, but ever since Citizens united, that process was tossed into the trash.

IDK if younger leaders would find better policies, but the ones we are living with now need some real serious work.


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Posted by Trofim Lysenko, a resident of Menlo Park,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 6:52 am

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Proponents of the Green New Deal, 1619 Project education, higher taxes, late term abortions, reparations, police defunding, etc. used to scare me.

But nothing can compare to the erosion of civil liberties in the past six months I've witnessed in this country " especially Gavin Newsom's California. The loss of so many of our freedoms is staggering. Truly staggering.


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Posted by Lee Forrest, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 8:34 am

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> "The 'Trump supports white supremacy' thing is a myth..."

^ Concurring...the problem is that Trump did not clearly distance himself when asked the question because he did not want to alienate a right-wing voter base that he is relying on for the upcoming election.

> "Oh and trump is a racist, a misogynist, a white nationalist and an anti-Semite. He supports the proud boys."

^ Of note...Trump's son-in-law (Ivanka's husband) is Jewish and the current leader of the 'white nationist' Proud Boys (Enrique Torrio) is Hispanic-American.

A misogynist? Perhaps...but then again, there are countless world leaders (both past & present) who could be filed under that category.

To quote Mr. Dabrowsky..."We will survive Trump, even if he gets another four years, we've been through worse."

All things considered...there are far worse places to live and Trump even had an adjective for them.




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Posted by Anneke, a resident of Professorville,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 11:18 am

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Diana, thank you for this blog.

I would like to enclose two links, at the bottom, that talk about Mr. Trump both mocking and violating the Constitution as well as breaking the Ten Commandments.

Mr. Trump is NOT a member of an honorable Republican Party. He is a member the dishonorable Trumpian party, not a recognized and lawful entity in the Constitution.

When I became a US citizen many years ago, I carefully studied the Constitution, not just to pass the Citizen's test, but primarily to learn about the importance of this Document for the Republic of the United States and its people. I was deeply impressed by the wisdom and foresight of our Founding Fathers, who did a magnificent job in not only dealing with the situation at that time, but also in looking forward towards the far, far future, realizing that the Document needed flexibility because of time-needed changes. It was and is a Document of wisdom, of humanity (despite some of the present controversies), and a moral and legal guide for all including the executive, legislative and judicial branches, AND the citizens of the United States.

As I was about to become a new citizen of this country, I swore to uphold the Constitution. I did so with honesty and conviction. Mr. Trump, at his inauguration with his hand on the Bible, swore the same.

A person who fails to uphold the Constitution should not qualify for becoming President. I am amazed how anyone can vote for a person (Republican or Democrat) who has obviously thumbed his nose at both the Constitution and the Bible. Lying, cheating, stealing, corrupting, committing adultery, and so many more offensive and illegal actions by Mr. Trump appear to have become a foothold of "honor" in our country. His behavior is neither honorable nor acceptable from a Republican or a Democrat. It is not a behavior acceptable from any human being at any time.

I agree with commenters above who believe we should have a younger generation leading our government. However, at this time, we ONLY have two choices: A 74-year old Trumpian or a 77-year old Democrat. Do we want to start living under a regime like Putin's or is Mr. Biden the better, the more experienced, the more moral and the more humane candidate at this very dangerous time?

Submitted with all my respect to honorable Republicans and Democrats.

Web Link

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Posted by Lee Forrest, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 11:50 am

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> "Do we want to start living under a regime like Putin's or is Mr. Biden the better, the more experienced, the more moral and the more humane candidate at this very dangerous time?"

^ Fortunately the founding fathers implemented a system of checks & balances to prevent an American dictatorship.

The House is currently controlled by the Democrats while the Senate maintains a Republican majority...only a SCOTUS liberal/conservative balance remains in limbo due to RBG's recent passing & a partisan conflict regarding her eventual successor.

As you may recall, a majority Republican House led by Newt Gingrich attempted to
toss Bill Clinton out of the White House but he was 'saved' by a Democrat controlled Senate...and vice versa for Trump. In these instances, the House of Representatives present the charges, the SCOTUS presides & the Senate serves as a jury.

Only when both houses are controlled by one party with the president of the same party & the majority of SCOTUS justices chosen by the SAME party do we face any serious threats regarding constitutionalities and/or perceived threats to U.S. democracy.

If anything...it is a shame that both the Democrat & Republican parties could not provide better candidates for the American voters to choose from in 2020.






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Posted by Anneke, a resident of Professorville,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 1:17 pm

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Two more in-depth articles on Putin and the influence he appears to have on Mr. Trump and hence on the US.

Web Link

Web Link

If it is finally determined that Russia's influence helped elect President Trump.........we are already on our way to be under the influence of Putin/Russia.


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Posted by Vote!, a resident of Evergreen Park,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 2:13 pm

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Trump has - repeatedly - refused to denounce white supremacy. Its not a myth. Its something that has been happening - time and time again - right infront of our eyes. Mr. Wallace was actually trying to do Trump a favor by throwing him that question. All Trump had to do was actually say in clear and concise language - white supremacy is bad. Literally, thats all he had to do. Not try to point the blame at Antifa; or the left; or anything else.
Why in the world would he refuse to do that? Why did he go out of his way not to? He "misspoke" by telling the Proud Boys to be on stand-by for orders? Really?
You know that old joke about a guy going to the bar crying in his beer. Bartender asks him whats wrong, guy tells him that he misspoke to his wife and she kicked him out. What did you say bartnernder wanted to know? Oh, I meant to say "honey, can you please pass the butter", but instead I misspoke and said "you horrible witch, you ruined my life".
Btu all jokes aside. Any person who is not a white cis heterosexual male of northern European descend and no pre-existing medical conditions should be horrified.


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Posted by Resident, a resident of Midtown,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 3:51 pm

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"Any person who is not a white cis heterosexual male of northern European descend" sounds pretty xenophobic to me!


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Posted by Vote!, a resident of Evergreen Park,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 4:25 pm

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Resident, do you know what xenophobic means? Because to quote "Princess Bride", I don't think it means what you think it means.


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Posted by Vote!, a resident of Evergreen Park,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 4:25 pm

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Resident, do you know what xenophobic means? Because to quote "Princess Bride", I don't think it means what you think it means.


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Posted by Anneke, a resident of Professorville,
on Oct 1, 2020 at 7:51 pm

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Another in-depth article on Mr. Trump's debts and the strong possibility of foreign influence.

Web Link

Yes, I strongly believe based on everything I have read, seen, and heard, that Mr. Biden is the better candidate.


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Posted by Steven Nelson, a resident of Cuesta Park,
on Oct 3, 2020 at 4:16 pm

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I believe everything that I saw with my own eyes and heard with my own ears:
That was a debate? (Not much) Trump Won? (He didn't even seem to understand "debate rules")


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Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest,
on Oct 5, 2020 at 12:48 pm

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This debate was a disgrace - primarily because Mr. Law and Order The Donald refused to obey the agreed upon rules. A civil society requires everyone to abide by the rules, particularly our elected officials.

In contrast here was a respectful debate between two intelligent, rule abiding politicians:

Web Link


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Posted by perceived diminished mental faculties, a resident of Charleston Meadows,
on Oct 5, 2020 at 5:59 pm

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"perceived diminished mental faculties aside"

I only saw one person on stage that night with diminished mental faculties, and that was Trump.

Along with diminished emotional faculties, physical faculties, etc..

Perhaps Don, trying so hard to be the Alpha bully, should challenge Joe to a bike race? Prove you can do it, Donald! Beat him in a bike ride!

Web Link

Or just show us you can go half a block without a golf cart.


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Posted by Lee Forrest, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Oct 5, 2020 at 7:58 pm

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For some voters, it will boil down to the candidate who takes the strongest stand against the likes of the PRC & Iran.


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Posted by MVresident2003, a resident of Mountain View,
on Oct 5, 2020 at 8:09 pm

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Really? Quite fascinating that a vote should boil down to policy vs all the subjective accusations above! Fascinating I say!

And @Vote, you are WRONG. WRONG WRONG WRONG. What purpose does it serve to continually post false information? I mean, truly, why do you do this? I can provide multiple links to multiple times he has denounced KKK, White Supremacy...why do you need to promote false narrative?

And maybe, just maybe you should read up on Proud Boys because guess what.....they're not “white"????


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Posted by Jennifer, a resident of another community,
on Oct 5, 2020 at 8:37 pm

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Trump is now tweeting "I feel better than I did 20 years ago!" Maybe he's not too old after all. I wouldn't think testing positive for Covid-19 at his age, health, etc. would generate that response. Maybe age really is just a number...


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Posted by Lee Forrest, a resident of Crescent Park,
on Oct 6, 2020 at 7:58 am

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> "Trump is now tweeting "I feel better than I did 20 years ago!" Maybe he's not too old after all. I wouldn't think testing positive for Covid-19 at his age, health, etc. would generate that response. Maybe age really is just a number..."

^ Last night the New York Times reported that steroids, which Trump is reportedly taking, specifically dexamethasone, are known to “affect mood, causing euphoria or a general happiness."


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows, a resident of Adobe-Meadow,
on Oct 6, 2020 at 9:26 am

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The debate - A specific type of questioning is used in Prosecutorial debate. A "situation" of dubious facts is presented as as truth. Kamala is an expert in that approach. A whole scenario of dubious truth is laid out as a "fact" - we saw that in the congressional televised events of late. During the D debate she accused Biden of orchestrating school busing way back when. She build a whole story line on that "fact". However what ever relation Biden had to busing way back when is questionable.
We saw the same thing with the moderator of the debate - he laid out a question with a "fact' that was not a fact - but was a political theme. That is where the problem was - the "question" was a statement of "fact" that was not a fact. Shame on him.


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Posted by Resident 1-Adobe Meadows, a resident of Adobe-Meadow,
on Oct 6, 2020 at 12:59 pm

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To expand on my point - Kamala accused Biden of bussing because she was "a poor little black girl". Note Biden is on the east coast and Kamala was in Oakland. I grew up in LA and everyone was bussed. Population centers keep moving out from the center city leaving schools in the inner city without enough students to keep them open. She was bussed because the population center in Oakland is moving so kids combined in one school to keep it open. So we have a debate coming up and you can count on Kamala making accusatory statements as though they were a "fact". She pulled that during the Kavanaugh hearings. that is a prosecutor's style point. That same strategy was used in the Biden - Trump debate. Look at the way the question is formulated and presented. It is a "gotcha question".


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Posted by perceived diminished mental faculties, a resident of another community,
on Oct 6, 2020 at 6:36 pm

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Good points about what Kamala should ask - like: why does Pence, wrapped up in his faith, support a man who is on tape admitting sexual assault?

Is it that much of a personal drive by Pence to be president some day? By forsaking his scruples?


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