So what?

I know. Recognizing "miracles," plus continuing positions against birth control and taking the time duing the Charlie Hebdo murders to tout the necessary 'limits of free speech' such as when someone insults or makes fun of someone's religious beliefs. =Same old superstition with no improvement.

I just watched the Frontline documentary about the church.They replay it every so often on KQED and KQED+ channels 9 and 10. Mindblowing,
We have read about the priests abuse of children, but that's only the beginning. If you are interested in knowing what goes on in the real world, watch it.

I know, very scary, because I fear there is no solution as the world reverts to religious wars and crusades again. Why? Because in this country, even questioning religion is shouted down by both the right and the left as 'hate crimes'. The usually dependable Dave Ross just did a bit on KCBS, advocating that President Obama was correct to stop using the phrase radical Islam or radical Islamic because in his view, the crazies bombing things really have no religious basis for their actions. Really? I would argue the opposite: the less tolerant and more violent religious people are MORE true to their hoary old books than the revisionists who don't really read them. 4348 (IBN Abbas) instructs that when the perfect prophet, the embodiment of the angel's and Allah's blessings, validated murder of a woman who had disparaged him by her blind husband (a knife to the stomach), this act became the precedent of Shari's law. The prophet then joked about the murder at prayers, cracking "two goats won't butt their heads ovee her" (the stabbed woman who had insulted the prophet). Dave also said something about those religions with leaders who have special access to talk to the man upstairs are not catholics, but geez, they have such a fellow, don't they?

I am a Christian but not a Catholic. I am always a little suspicious of organized religion under the guise of Christianity but that is just to tell you who I am.

Whereas I think that a discussion about this canonization is a good idea, I think you are entering it from the wrong perspective. A better way of looking at this is to ask what difference will it make to the local region? Will it bring more tourists to areas outside of San Francisco into the real California? Will the local missions capitalize on this? Will anyone look at Christianity from a different perspective now that there is a local saint? In other words, will it make a difference or be forgotten within a few months of it happening?

If you change the discussion to more earthly levels, it would be interesting to hear people's views.

Non-Christians are not going to care about this, except perhaps to study a little more about what actually happened during the colonization period. Their may be some pickup in tourism by Catholics, probably limited to specific churches where Serra's relics are displayed.

Non-Christians are not going to care about this, except perhaps to study a little more about what actually happened during the colonization period. Their may be some pickup in tourism by Catholics, probably limited to specific churches where Serra's relics are displayed.

The good thing about our country is that we do not have to care any more than to just say, hmmm to this, or we can get all excited about it if we want to, or just look at it historically.

We are not a "Christian Republic". Religion does not rule our lives, and many religions have a say relative to the political process, but from outside it.

No one is going to tie you to a post and whip you bloody or execute you for making a post critical for Pope Francis.

No one is going to declare you a criminal for leaving the church or deciding you love someone from another faith.

Pretty neat idea that ... almost 25% of all countries, ( 50 out of 200 nations total ) don't seem to get the importance of that simple idea. Score one for us!

@Christian but not Catholic:

It'll probably bring more traffic to I-280.

;-)