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Toll Lanes Start

Uploaded: Sep 19, 2010
A portion of southbound 680 will allow single occupancy cars to use the carpool lane for a fee starting on September 20th.

I think this is an interesting experiment. Two months ago the toll on the Bay Bridge was raised from $4 to $6 during the morning commute. And there are more toll lanes planned around the region as indicated in the article.

I start from a position of thinking this is a good idea even if folks with stickers like our family find the carpool lanes more crowded.

I am interested in hearing from readers who make the I-680 trip or the Bay Bridge morning trip about their experiences.

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Posted by stephen levy, a resident of ,
on Sep 19, 2010 at 2:50 pm

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I hope this time the link is live.

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Posted by qq, a resident of ,
on Sep 19, 2010 at 3:23 pm

So carpool users without FastTrack have to do nothing to use the lane.

Carpool users with FastTrack have to remember to use their tinfoil hat.

Non carpool users with FastTrack get charged.

Non carpool users without FastTrack get terminated by SkyNet for non-compliance.

What could go wrong?


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of ,
on Sep 20, 2010 at 12:54 pm

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More 40 MPH differential and unsafe lane changing. Stupidity ad absurdum.

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Posted by think about it, a resident of ,
on Sep 20, 2010 at 1:47 pm

Later today I am going to catch a train to Redwood City at a cost of $4.25 to enable me to ride with someone in the carpool lane to Milpitas to get them there in reasonable amount of time for a 6.30 appointment while I hang around aimlessly until they finish and we can come back to Palo Alto.

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Posted by OFCOURSE, a resident of ,
on Sep 21, 2010 at 8:41 am

OF course your all for having SUVs and land yatchs sucking up gas so YOU can sit in your PPD and rule the world from that BEAST and that 1000 foot BerlinWall freeway

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Posted by stephen levy, a resident of ,
on Sep 21, 2010 at 12:01 pm

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Here is Gary Richards update on his experience yesterday.

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There is always a period of adjusting to new rules but I expect that drivers and Caltrans will make adjustments and shortly the leaning curve problems will disappear.

The toll lane idea has three potential benefits.

One, it allows drivers to pay for a faster drive and frees up space in the "free" lanes for other drivers.

Two, the revenue will be a help to financing highway improvements.

Three, the early experiments will provide valuable information about usage, fares, and congestion relief. If the early experiments don't work, I would hope that future toll lanes might be delayed or redesigned.

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Posted by Kenneth, a resident of ,
on Sep 21, 2010 at 3:19 pm

I am "rich", because my family income is $270,000. Of course, my wife and I worked it from the bottom, raised three kids, took exactly zero vactions for 15 years, sweated the payroll, etc.

I like the idea, because we can travel from Orinda to our business in San Jose more quickly. We earned the privilege, and we are willing, and able, to pay the price. That's the American way!

Oh, btw, if the "Bush" tax cuts are reversed, we WILL be laying off workers. We sacrificed to produce wealth for ourselves, not to give it back to the government.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of ,
on Sep 21, 2010 at 4:11 pm

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I doubt seriously the revenue from toll lanes will come close to their cost and to the opportunity to expand service to all. Remember when the Dumbarton bridge was in private operation? One man per shift in the center kiosk collected tolls both directions, opened the bridge for boats and fished through a hole in the floor for flounder he sold for a buck a pound. The State took over, and the minimum crew was six. And no more flounders.

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