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TORTURE

Original post made by Jag Singh on Jan 19, 2007

It is encouraging to learn that Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy and other members of the Senate Judiciary Committee are holding Attorney General, Alberto Gonzales, 'feet to the fire', to demand accountability for the Bush administration's unlawful torture policy. It is a travesty that Maher Arar, a Canadian citizen, has still not received an apology from our government. Arar was seized by US officials in New York in 2002 and dispatched to Syria where he was held for more than a year and brutally tortured. Eventually, he was released and allowed to return to his native Canada. Last year the Canadian government found Arar innocent of all charges and offered him an unconditional apology for their ill-advised collusion with US officials. Thus far, the Bush Administration has refused to offer Arar an apology and compensation for his ordeal. Predictably, Gonzales is hiding the dark deeds of this administration by bogus claims of 'national security'. In an effort to justify its inhumane polices, the Bush Administration is now seeking to convict detainees using evidence obtained under torture. This action would make a complete mockery of our claim to be a law abiding nation. It is time Americans of all stripes demand an immediate halt to all forms of torture and CIA administered 'black site' dungeons.

Comments

Posted by Kirk, a resident of Midtown
on Jan 19, 2007 at 6:39 pm

Jag,

If you are serious about torture (which I doubt), please check out how our enemies treat us:

Web Link

This probably won't affect you, Jag, because you are a hater of America (and Jews, BTW). But you will, at least, have to face it. This is real torture.


Posted by correction, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 20, 2007 at 12:43 am

Although what happened to Maher was unfortunate, it would be nice to get your facts accurate.

Maher Arar is a native of Syria, not Canada, he had dual citizenship, Canada and Syria.


Posted by Draw the Line, a resident of Stanford
on Jan 20, 2007 at 7:35 am

Let's see...keep prisoners with us at Guatanomo where are they are "tortured" with good food and gain 20 pounds, given prayer rugs and Qurans, allowed to throw feces at and spit on our soldiers...and use our belief in freedom of speech to spew lies to be used as propoganda weapons against the US

or

Send them to their country of origin and let their own country and their adopted country ( Canada) deal with them.

I choose the second.

Nobody in the mainstream media paid too much attention, I noticed, when the prisoners at the "horrible" Abu Graib begged the Americans to stay when we turned over the prison to the Iraqis. Gosh, I wonder why our soldiers were preferred? Can't have it both ways...accuse us of atrocities, then complain when we get out. Anybody notice how suddenly the Red Cross isn't issuing horror stories out of Abu Graib? Hmmmm. Could it be there is not access to the prisoners? Or, maybe there is, but the prisoners know what will happen to them if they say anything.

We have nothing to apologize for.


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Jan 20, 2007 at 7:45 am

People are not voluntarily in prison, they stay there only because of coercion and threat of death. Many prisoners, denied their freedom, retaliate by breaking rules, abusing guards and other inconvenient acts. Judges judge guards harshly for their dealings with prisoners, but try that crap in a courtroom and forget any niceties.
Be that as it may, I took 2 prisoners in 1950 at great threat and inconvenience to myself because of the value of the information prisoners might have. If obtaining information is denied, why not just kill them?