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Iraq Surge

Original post made by Jag Singh, Duveneck/St. Francis, on Jan 18, 2007

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Posted by ten18
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 18, 2007 at 11:23 pm

The Democrats' main concerns are gay marriage and global warming. Fortunately, these "issues" will present enough of a distraction to them so that the grownups can deal with the real issue facing this country - militant Islam. Well, that and illegal immigration, but Bush obviously isn't going to do anything to stop that. I sure hope we escalate against Iran and Syria - we need to stop the flow of money and terrorists from those countries into Iraq. If we'd taken a much stronger approach to this war from the start, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in currently. Remove this president and replace him with who? Hillary? Osama, I mean Obama? Oh my God! I'm no fan of Mr. Bush (he's way too liberal and weak for my tastes), but come on! The Democratic leadership are a bunch of clowns! Grandma Pelosi? Arrrrrgh?

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Posted by Draw the Line
a resident of Stanford
on Jan 19, 2007 at 7:04 am

Opponents to the "Surge" who were praising the Iraq Study Group and urging our nation to follow it a mere month ago are a joke. Remember you were begging us to follow it? I guess you hadn't read it.

I have. The WHOLE thing, not just the sentences the media "praised".

The Democrat leaders who have an "anything Bush does is wrong" attitude look worse than silly. They look like they just hate Bush and anything he says and does.

That is not what "opposition party" means. It looks like the "anything to make America a failure" party.

By the way, Jag have you actually READ the report? I have..this is part of the plan. If LA is going up in race riots, what do we do? Send in police to stop it and get people calmed down, and help the govt bring back control. That is what this is, what the Iraq Study Group urged within the context of the rest of activities Iraq is doing.

Frankly, I say it is ABOUT TIME..but we had to wait for the approval of Iraq, who now has finally asked us to do this, and the "bipartisan" approval..which we had with the Iraq Study Group's report... Lots of dead people in the last year who wouldn't have died if we had flexed some muscle a year ago.

Oh yes, I forgot, the naysayers are saying we can't trust Iraq to live up to its side of the deal. WHAT??? Let's think about say we CAN trust Iran's maniacal dictator when he says the nukes are for peaceful purposes...but we CAN'T trust a government elected by 80% of the people to live up to its word. Elected under threat of death by pro-dictator forces.

The reality is that they can't trust US to live up to ours. THEY have the guts to risk death to vote and work for their democracy. WE cry that we are "war weary" because we are tired of the "tension" in our country, and all we do is flap our lips and cry.

I am glad that the neighbors to Iraq, and the neighbors to Israel, are watching us finish the job, for once. Maybe they will think twice before attacking Israel and Iraq. Was anybody the defender against bullies on the playground? Remember that.

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Posted by please clarify
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 19, 2007 at 7:38 am


Unfortunately you are a puppet of the regime that invaded Iraq.

The question of gay marriage has to do with human rights; is not that a grown-up issue, one on which this country was founded (after annihilating the natives of course)?

We do live in an organic environment. Climate change has always been part of Earth's history, but I still think it is grown up to consider the effects of poison on earth, land, and sea.

This response only touches the surface of thoughts concerning the presence or lack of open mindedness in getting along with our neighbors and with each other.

Certainly no one condones violence as a means of communication, but we would do well to consider how explotation breeds anger.

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Posted by please clarify
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 19, 2007 at 7:41 am

exploitation (correction)

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Posted by ten18
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 19, 2007 at 10:24 am

please clarify - you've clarified your opinion, and that's the beauty of this forum. Unfortunately, I sense that in your opinion, anyone who doesn't share your views is automatically "closed-minded." In your world, "getting along with our neighbors and each other" probably means appeasment and acquiescence, even if it is not in your best interest. I've given just as much thought to my opinions as you have to yours.

I'm opposed to gay marriage - I do not think that our goverment should do anything to encourage that lifestyle. Civil unions - maybe. That's my opinion. You disagree - that's cool.

As for our organic environment - I agree completely that it's a "grown up" issue, and should be taken seriously. However, our leadership is going to exploit this issue as another means to drain the pockets of the hard-working taxpayer. Green fascists will exploit this issue as a means to control the masses. I wish we would continue to focus on efforts to mitigate or eliminate the actual "poisons" in our environment, rather than on the rhetoric claiming that we're going to wrestle Mother Nature to victory (i.e., we'll reverse climate change).

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 20, 2007 at 1:05 pm

Oddly enough, the progressives opposing the war are often those who have the most to lose in an Islamic takeover.