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On hunting imaginary lions

Original post made by Jay Thorwaldson, editor emeritus, on Jul 22, 2008

Somewhere deep inside I’ve always been a lion hunter.

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Posted by An Engineer
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 22, 2008 at 2:54 pm

Here are some imaginative tips for hunting imagined (one hopes) lions: Web Link. Have fun!


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Posted by Engineer
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jul 22, 2008 at 3:25 pm

An Engineer,

Very interesting theories! And very amusing.

Now I will track to the other (atavistic) end of the spectrum:

I once knew a professional lion (cougar) hunter in California. He eventually gave it up and became a conservationist, trying to protect Felis concolor (he succeeded!). However, before he took the cure, he admitted that the liver of the mountain lion is the best tasting flesh of all the animals that man kills (and he killed and ate many of them). He even had a recipe for it, involvong rainbow trout and wild herbs.

The theoretical question is: Are mountain lions best preserved by prohibiting the hunting of them, or by providing an open market on their livers, sold in very high end restaurants?

Are there mathematical equations that could help us decide the optimal answer?

Hint, this is not an obvious answer, as many may think at first glance.


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Posted by An Engineer
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 22, 2008 at 3:55 pm

Yes, and thanks for asking. Any technique or equation described in the link given above will result in the optimal preservation of the lion targeted using it.


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Posted by Engineer
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jul 22, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Just to extend the notion, what would a thinking lion think?


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Posted by An Engineer
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 22, 2008 at 5:50 pm

Thinking lions apparently think highly of their livers. Very few lions drink.


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Posted by Engineer
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jul 22, 2008 at 6:49 pm

Oh, I've known some males who drink and think they are lions. Does this make them thinking lions?

The question remains,

Would high price cougar liver, for sale at the highest price, be good or bad for thinking (or even non-thinking) lions. There must be some specific equation for this, but it is beyond me.


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Posted by Walter E. Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 22, 2008 at 7:54 pm

And the equator is an imaginary lion running around the earth.
We all know about the snipe hunt, but grunion hunting sounds so much like a snipe hunt that most first timers still expect Allan Funt to show up.


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Posted by William Hanley
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 24, 2008 at 12:16 pm

Being a Berkeley English Literature graduate I learned to love words. Isn't there even something in that old bible that says something like First was the word and the word... something like that - IN THE BIBLE!.

Good writing is an amazing skill - word smithing. I found this blog on the lion mystery one of the most delightful pieces I have ever read.


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Posted by Bible Reader
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 24, 2008 at 4:52 pm

I think this is the passage you mean

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

St. John's Gospel. ch 1. vs 1 - 5


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Posted by Jay Thorwaldson
editor emeritus
on Jul 25, 2008 at 11:52 am

Jay Thorwaldson is a registered user.

Ah, well, if we're going to get Biblical let's not forget Daniel in the lions' den, the original "lion whisperer," and the many scores (hundreds?) of lion references in the Bible, such as when the lion will lie down with the lamb. I'm a bit partial to Mark Twain's response to the latter. That works just fine, he said, so long as one has a goodly supply of lambs.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 25, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Ah yes, Jay...the slaughter of the lambs. However, one good dog of any size, with fight in him, will do just fine, according to Twain.


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Posted by An Engineer
a resident of Downtown North
on Jul 25, 2008 at 1:06 pm

And Woody Allen chimes in with: "The lion and the calf shall lie down together, but the calf won’t get much sleep"

Personally, I like Groucho Marx's observation that: "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." I'm not sure how this applies to lions, at least not the first part.


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Posted by Kent
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jul 25, 2008 at 1:48 pm

Why can't we all just get along?


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Posted by anti-Narnia
a resident of another community
on Jul 26, 2008 at 6:19 am

Jay writes: "a woman police officer took out a rifle and shot the lion out of the tree."

I always wondered why nobody ever picked up on the sad irony between the shooting of the lion and the City's motto "Its a matter of Pride."


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Posted by Linguist
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Jul 26, 2008 at 1:17 pm

Minor correction to Mr. Wallis: the saying goes that the Equator is a Menagerie lion running around the Earth.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 26, 2008 at 1:28 pm

Linguist

Touche.


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Posted by Lion Around
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Jul 27, 2008 at 10:20 am

A little editing was added to this Jay Thorwaldson scoop so Google can alert non-Palo Alto residents worldwide that innovative solutions are being applied to encourage compliance with the Foothills Park non-resident rule:

"What he didn’t know is that Palo Alto Foothills Park rangers, knowing lions are fiercely territorial, have trained a team of “watch lions” to remind non-residents, with a friendly bump on the shoulder blades, that they don’t belong in the park -- a sure way to put some teeth into the residents-only rule.

The lions, being no dummies, immediately joined Local 715 of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). Thus, they will not be patrolling every other Friday or on weekends, unless overtime is paid."


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Posted by Angela Hey
a resident of another community
on Jul 30, 2008 at 12:49 am

I thought we could have a new Bay Area tourist attraction - lion spotting. In Nepal I rode elephants at sunrise and sunset 3 times to look for an elusive tiger - but we did hear it roar and one of the elephants in our group did see it.

So maybe someone can dream up a lion tracking vacation package!


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 30, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Let's keep this thread, we don't need another.


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Posted by Kepp covering up your plagerizing Jay
a resident of another community
on Jul 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm

Jay took my comments about the Lion being a Palo Alto employee hired to keep non-residents out of the park and used them without credit.

When I posted that on this thread (the first comment posted) it was quickly removed. Again.

You really are a disappointment Jay.


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Posted by Jen Joo
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Aug 6, 2008 at 10:52 am

Jay and Jason Green over at the other paper never get these stories right. Too cozy with the people at PA City Hall top be objective.


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Posted by a neighbor
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Aug 9, 2008 at 5:23 pm

In 1994, around the time of the killing of the woman jogger, I myself saw a mountain lion at Foothills Park. I was hiking alone on the trail close to Crazy Horse fire road that goes up the hill towards a large Bay tree.I walked past the lion, who was seated about 10 feet from the trail. I guess it wasn't hungry. I never reported this to the rangers because I was trying to locate my teenage son at the time. It was about the size of a large dog and resembled a lioness from the zoo. I was unafraid because I was not well-informed about the danger that these beasts can pose. No joke, these are awesome animals. If I had reported it to a ranger, which I should have done, I wonder if the authorities, in their wisdom, would have tried to kill the thing. I wouldn't like to think so.


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Posted by Jon
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Aug 17, 2008 at 11:50 pm

Lions and Tigers and ... Bigfoot!

such a fascinating town, I'm going to miss it when I go.


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Posted by Blogger
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Aug 20, 2008 at 12:31 am

It ain't a blog unless you update it, rump aperture!


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Posted by Mr. BBQ
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 3, 2008 at 11:34 am

Can't this Guy at least post something new on a monthly basis? I think he might post something that has some value. Mountain lions sightings are a worthless a post. This posting by Jay has little value. I would rather have a blog about how many people have a Prius and traded their car in for $5,000.00 and believe they were saving money on a $27,000 Prius taking 27 years to break even. Save the environment, empty your wallet! The people in Palo Alto have more money than brains! Stupid is as Stupid does.


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Posted by THE RED PRIUS
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Sep 3, 2008 at 12:08 pm

The Prius cost more than $27,000 the Prius is the most blood stained car of all time.

Prius batteries, contain 32 pounds of nickel each. Also several pounds of cobalt, mined in the 'Democratic' Congo, one of the most oppressive regimes on earth. Add in the other rare-earth metals, most of which come from China The WORLDS most oppressive regime!

Hey, Palo Alto what about it, how green can you be when all I see is the red of oppression around your save the planet ego stance.


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Posted by THE RED PRIUS
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Sep 6, 2008 at 10:08 pm

You know this gas price business is just a cash cow designed to take our money. There is no oil problem. If there really was FORD has an answer the beats the Prius hands down.

The 65 mpg Ford the U.S. Can't Have!
Here: ->Web Link


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Posted by Jerko
a resident of another community
on Sep 16, 2008 at 5:51 pm

Time to get a new topic


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2008 at 6:55 pm

What happened the North/South divide topic?


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 18, 2008 at 4:34 pm

Jay

If you don't wish to continue to update your blog, perfectly OK, maybe someone else on the staff would like to. I believe Arden has a blog devoted to tech issues and that may be possible to provide a link to.


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Posted by lazlo toth
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 22, 2008 at 5:46 pm

someone put this man out of his misery!


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Posted by lion
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Sep 22, 2008 at 9:49 pm

it is time for JAY THORWALDSON to be retired