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Plastic Bags at Retail

Original post made by Paul Losch on Apr 5, 2013

I don't think I am alone in not understanding what the plastic bag ordinances, banning plastic bags at virtually all retail establishments in town, really means.

I was shopping in a well known grocery store in Palo Alto, and another in MP. Both had signs to alert people that there will be no more plastic bags allowed at check-out in the near future, and paper bags will cost 10cents apiece. All in the effort to encourage people to use cloth bags.

I thought about this as I was in the produce aisle, putting my veggies and fruits in plastic bags. Are these affected, even though they have the recycling symbol on them. Or will we go back to brown bags for such items as fruits, nuts, vegetables, pastries, inter alia?

What about dry cleaners? Dining establishments that put to go food in Styrofoam containers and then go into a paper bag.

I try to be a "greenie" as much as possible, and I suspect that I, as a consumer, is even less confused than are the retailers who have to drop the paper or plastic practices.

I just don't know what it means.
It is the right direction, and the devil is in the details.

One anecdote that may display how far our part of the world has come, compared to other parts of the country:

A college friend of mine has a son who,after college got a gig in the Florida Panhandle. He went to a typical party for people at that age, like what you kinda see in commercials. He finished a beer in a can, and asked where the recycling bin was. There was none. The people he asked had no clue what he was talking about.
So, we are on the right track in these parts, I detect some denial elsewhere.

And even those of us with the best of intentions are confused.

Comments

Posted by Norman Carroll, formerly registered Online reciepient, a resident of Midtown
on Apr 5, 2013 at 4:09 pm

I would like to encourage those using cloht bags to WASH them occaisionally. I have been in line behind them at grocery and some of those bags absolutly REEK!

(BTW - I still receive Online via e-mail from a system that says may address isn't in the system.................)


Posted by Not an issue, a resident of Community Center
on Apr 5, 2013 at 4:59 pm

This is all part of the city's plan to appear that we are leading environmentalists. The horror--- 150 bags in the creek!!! The stores
I've it because they can now charge for paper bags. The council feels good about themselves and the local environmentalists feel they did their jobs ( and that is whyntheyndo not work at real jobs or have any clue what it is to live on a salary here).
I have enough plasticbags stored that I will be using them for years to come. Hopefully the environmentalists will see me using them and recoil in horror


Posted by Donna , a resident of Los Altos
on Apr 13, 2013 at 4:49 pm

If the stores want to ban paper and plastic entirely for the consumer, why not ban it for suppliers and distributors? Shipped cases of wine require corrugated boxes with dividers, produce arrives at the store shipped in plastic and paper boxes, cookies in bags with plastic dividers. Why go after just the consumer? Because they can. Los Altos is banning all plastic and paper for all merchants as of July 7th, and charging for bags - EXCEPT for people on food stamps. They have gone too far with this, way too far.

I am tempted to stand in from of Draegers Los Altos holding a sign begging food stamp people to get bags for me.


Posted by Not an issue, a resident of Community Center
on Apr 13, 2013 at 4:57 pm

Donna-- good ideas-- of course banning all plastic is not feasible, so in order for the "environmentalists" in the city to feel good, they go this route. Obviously some of the " environmentalists" in the city have too much time on their hands ( since some of them do not have real jobs, that is not unexpected) . But 100+ bags were found n the creek-- the humanity!!!!


Posted by just thinkin', a resident of Midtown
on May 3, 2013 at 2:39 pm

Why is the city providing a windfall of sorts to stores? It could have use the funds to pay for the wired internet pipe dream....Why not go wireless like everyone else?????