California Bill Seeks Campus Credit for Online Study
Original post made by Annie on Mar 13, 2013
This is a disaster. The end of the UCs as we know them. Replaced by trumped up for profit online learning companies who will make a fortune and provide an education which is a very poor substitute for a professor.
This is a disaster. How will our kids compete with the graduates from ITT or China or Europe or Australia where education is still properly funded!
on Mar 14, 2013 at 8:43 am
This IS how our kids will have to compete. Good colleges have become all but unaffordable for the middle class. Completely unaffordable if you have more than one child. The UCs as we knew them do not exist anymore. The foreign students, especially mainland Chinese, are given priority because they have to pay so much more. The UC system announced this last fall! They are interested in profit and administrative salaries more than educating American kids. Ironic, as the UC system, as well as the CSUs, we're created specifically for educating California kids, and the law states that they are to be given first priority. Jerry Brown has tried unsuccessfully to remind them of this.
The East Coast schools are no better. I personally know grads from MIT and Columbia who say that their alma maters did not prepare them for Silicon Valley at all, and they feel undereducated here.
We have a friend who is a former CEO of Intel who has tried u successfully for YEARS to make the Obama administration see that the US is one of only four countries in the world ( the others are in Africa) that do not pay the cost of at least a four-year degree for their citizens, and that this must change IMMEDIATELY.
Sometimes I think all is hopeless unless there is a middle class revolt.
on Mar 14, 2013 at 11:26 am
I saw a news program that brought up how do they prevent cheating? And this is not easy, there are several methods they employ, but still it gives me pause to endorse this method of learning in a major way.
Taking one or two online courses makes sense; getting the entire degree remotely doesn't seem equivalent to me to being on a UC campus and participating in classes and sections with TAs.
on Mar 14, 2013 at 11:29 am
Gee, I know UC Berkeley and MIT grads here and they seem to be ultra successful and well-educated. Do you mean very recent grads (like in the past 5 years or something)? -- that could be different, I suppose.
I do oppose the current practice of "selling" of UC spots to foreign students, some of whom have doctored (phony) applications. UC should give priority to legal California citizens and residents - end of story.