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City hopes to slow drivers in Crescent Park

Original post made on Mar 8, 2013

Spurred by neighborhood concerns about speeding cars, Palo Alto officials are considering installing a four-way stop at the intersection of Hamilton Avenue and Newell Road in Crescent Park.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, March 8, 2013, 11:51 AM

Comments

Posted by University is a 25mph zone, a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 8, 2013 at 12:11 pm

The one that worked best for Downtown North was to have "no turn" signs during commuter hours. Can we put that on the bridge? It should be used for access, not for commuting.


Posted by parent, a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 8, 2013 at 12:19 pm

We need to reduce traffic speeds around all schools. It's really crazy out there some times. Not like the drivers don't know the schools are there; parents dropping off their kids are some of the craziest drivers.


Posted by Sue, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Mar 8, 2013 at 3:31 pm

There used to be a 4 way stop at Hamilton and Newell. It does help stop some of the speeding. Why did they change it in the first place???


Posted by Bob , a resident of Community Center
on Mar 8, 2013 at 10:10 pm

Why does it take this city so long to do the obvious? And please, no $xxx,xxx contracts for
more studies. Just put in the stop signs. I"d even help to dig the holes.


Posted by Driver of stick shiftl, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 9, 2013 at 8:53 am

Please try to reduce the number of stop signs and start using some roundabouts. Please try to reduce the number of red lights and start using some roundabouts.

Please use some yield signs instead of all the stop signs.

I am tired of shifting gears after all the complete stops I must make around town. A yield sign is just as safe as a complete stop.

Yield signs work in the rest of the world and would work fine here.


Posted by Garrett, a resident of another community
on Mar 9, 2013 at 10:42 am

Roundabouts, bulb ours, narrower streets, mid block cross walls with traffic islands. All will work and just slowing down in your car and your hectic life.


Posted by palo alto parent, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Mar 9, 2013 at 11:41 am

Driver of stick shift - 4 way stops require drivers (and bikes) to stop and take turns. Yield signs require drivers to slow down, which around here would result in playing chicken. As it is, the red light at Newell and Embarcadero regularly has cars going thru the red light as it turns from yellow, sometimes as many as 3 or 4 (on Embarcadero, not Newell).


Posted by musical, a resident of Palo Verde
on Mar 9, 2013 at 12:38 pm

95% of the time the four-way stops I encounter have no other traffic. Too bad there can't be some way to just make them enforced only during rush hour, or only when other traffic is present. Oh, I should say I'm on a bicycle, which requires even more effort than a stick shift.


Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 9, 2013 at 10:16 pm

In this latest slew of reports about speeders I read constant intimations that the speeders are EPA residents. Why is The Weekly participating in this bias w/out facts? When will The Weekly or the City do research to come up w/usable data points? As one who drives that corridor all times of day, this is who I see speeding:

-Tradespeople driving thei large vehicles w/one hand, the other glued to their cell phone. They're lazy drivers w/divided attention who frequently run stop signs.

- Residents of the immediate area in a hurry, whose attitude seems to be that they can speed in their own backyards.

- A lot of unknown residents going from Point A to B & for whatever reason, as is their right (except for speeding) are using Newell then it's side streets.

-Residents that I'm guessing are from EPA, as they go over the bridge.


Posted by Garrett, a resident of another community
on Mar 10, 2013 at 12:00 pm

Roundabouts with yield signs are best for bikes. You have to yield for those in the circle. If you set the crosswalk father away on jump with islands with a slight curve. You will have to slow down or else. Like damage your brakes, uncomfortable ride when driving to fast.