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Solution for Hogging Parking Spaces- charge Street cleaning

Original post made by southdowntown on Mar 23, 2011

The biggest problem with Parking in Palo Alto is the City workers, or private workers parking far way, more than a mile sometimes from University Avenue. The parking garages seats empty, and neighbors in Professorville cannot find parking.
Solution cleaning street fee. How about a giving ticket to a car parked in a clean street day that the city does every 2 weeks?

Comments

Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 23, 2011 at 1:11 pm

Part of the problem is that many people want to park all day but not every day. This means that more ways of paying for full day parking in all the garages would help the situation. I myself have needed to park for several hours in downtown and been unable to find the right garage to pay and I am a resident. How can those who are visitors here find the right place to park and pay for a full day.

Street cleaning tickets will only work if there are signs on the streets as to which day is street cleaning day, and it has to be city wide not just in the areas close to downtown.


Posted by empty lots, a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 23, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Are the city's all-day parking lots really empty? Those things cost tens of millions of dollars to build and there are lots of other important projects that are under funded or unfunded. If people are not going to use them, we need to re-think the need for more parking spaces around town. How about selling the city parking lots to a private company that can operate them at a profit?


Posted by driver, a resident of College Terrace
on Mar 23, 2011 at 4:00 pm

How do you know the parking garages sit empty? What time of day are you looking at the parkings lots and finding them empty? Do you spend your time patroling all 7 city lots in the downtown area that they sell permits for? When you see empty spots are you sure they are permit spots and not the free 2 or 3 hour parking. You could have people parking in the neighborhoods for various reasons. Maybe they don't wish to pay to park or they don't want to move their car every 2-3 hours.


Posted by Selfish homeowners, a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 23, 2011 at 6:16 pm

These are public streets that are available for everyone. Homeowners do not own the street by their houses. The server of entitlement from these people is amazing-park a block away and walk home. Stop whining and think of others for a change.


Posted by Crescent Park Dad, a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm

College Terrace has permits....


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Mar 23, 2011 at 9:52 pm

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

If you cannot conveniently park downtown, do business elsewhere.


Posted by grumpy, a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 24, 2011 at 9:11 am

Just give Professorville & Downtown areas Parking Permits. Heck, just give parking permits to the entire city then out of towners will know they are not welcome!


Posted by Crescent Park Dad, a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 24, 2011 at 11:31 pm

Actually, grumpy, I believe the issue is that those who work downtown refuse to buy parking permits for the city garages and spaces. Instead they park in Professorville and take up all the spaces in front people's homes.

The problem is not "the visitors" and "shoppers".


Posted by zz, a resident of South of Midtown
on Mar 25, 2011 at 4:14 am

Those of us who live here on the edge of town and have tried to buy downtown parking permits are told the garages are full, get on the list for next year. The bus and shuttles are not available most of the time I need. Why build so much office space if there is no parking ?


Posted by Observer, a resident of South of Midtown
on Mar 25, 2011 at 8:29 am

I disagree, Southdowntown. This might be the biggest problem for you, but you and your neighbors are not the only folks that matter here in Palo Alto. If someone is parking a mile from their work, there must be a good reason for it. How about putting forth some good suggestions about how to make their parking situation better, rather than just a punishment that will inconvenience everyone?


Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 25, 2011 at 10:29 am

I think that the problem is that workers don't want to buy parking permits because they don't want a year's worth of parking, they may not stay in their job for a year, they may only work a few days a week in Palo Alto, they may sometimes work evenings or weekend shifts, etc. all of which mean buying a year permit is unattractive.

I suggest putting pay and display machines in all City lots. Charge $3 a day parking (similar to Caltrain charges) which would make the annual pass more attractive but still leave 2 hour free parking. This would make the garages more attractive to those visiting Palo Alto for work or play. It would increase garage use as people would not use the Caltrain lot unless they were using Caltrain. It would make it easier for those of us with occasional 1/2 day meetings in downtown able to park easier.

I think it would pay for itself and be a win/win solution.


Posted by Anon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 25, 2011 at 12:32 pm

The idea that city parking lots are unused or a waste is in error.

If I go to the Patagonia store the only parking around is the lot that is on Alma near University, and I often have to drive right to the top to get a place, sometimes there is nothing and you have to go up and down waiting for someone to leave.

When I go the Stanford theater to see a movie, usually a prime hours it's almost impossible to find a place on the street, so I used the lot across from the old Police Station which is super convenient.

At Borders and that area it's the lot across from Il Forniao. Have I missed anything?

My only problem with these lots is that they are not big enough, and the biggest problem I can see is how confusing they are. The signage should be very clear and easy to decipher as to who spaces are for and how long you can park. Now that they have been around for a while I park in them all the time, but when they first appeared it was often easier to drive around looking for a space than trying to read about all the different zones and permits ... that is irritating.


Posted by Anon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 25, 2011 at 12:38 pm

As far as permits for workers, if people are parking far away in residential areas .... are you sure it is people who work downtown, and if so, why not ask them why they do what they do.

Maybe they cannot find any other place to park as long and they do not want to move their cars. Come on, don't curse the darkness, light a candle.

Someone in the city should design a post card and slip it under the windshield wipers of cars parked on the street in residential areas and ask them if they work in downtown Palo Alto and why they are parked there? Maybe we need more parking structures, not less. Like replace the lot across from the Post Office where it is often hard to find a place to park with a parking structure. I see cars driving back and forth all over that area and lot trying to park, and usually briefly.


Posted by little bird , a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 25, 2011 at 5:07 pm

No one has mentioned another source for the commuters who fill the free parking spaces in Downtown North and University South/Professorville: Stanford University employees and graduate students who choose not to pay the university's expensive parking permit fees, or don't want the inconvenience of waiting for the shuttle from the cheap lots that are far away from their offices.

Instead they park in residential areas either north or south of University Avenue, then cross Alma and board the frequent Marguerite shuttles by the old SP depot. Just watch, you'll see. Same thing is happening along El Camino Real in front of the university.


Posted by paul, a resident of Mountain View
on Nov 1, 2012 at 11:32 pm

I am one of those parking in the residential areas. I work downtown and have signed up for the wait list for a parking permit downtown on the first day of my new job 3 months ago. Still waiting. I don't care about the costs, because my company will reimburse them. So what should we do?