New York Times and Iraq Doggy Story
Original post made
by Gary, Downtown North,
on Dec 18, 2007
Having tried to undermine the fight for Iraqi freedom for years, the NY Times has sunk to a new low. Seems that a Blackwater security guard shot their dog, so official investigations are demanded. Not that the US embassy doesn't have other things on its mind, but the bratty NYT reporters have figured out a new angle to upset the effort.
Gotta read it to believe it.
Posted by A Boomer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 19, 2007 at 1:13 pm
The assertion that we are now succeeding in Iraq is very flimsy.
Noone in their right mind wants to see Iraq "fail." Shrub stirred the hornet's nest for largely capricious reasons, and history will judge Shrub and Co harshly on that count, among others. That said, the milk is spilled, the cat is out of the bag, Pandora's box is opened, what do we do, what do we want?
This whole escapade has butressed the "realpolitik" types who view relations with regimes around the world as which ones serve our country's interests, not if they are democratic, the supposed policy that Shrub and the Neocons espoused. Good riddance to Sadam Hussein, but neither the region nor the country are materially more stable or better now than before he was deposed, what hopeful signs may be there now have come at an obscenely high price to this country in terms of money, people, and our prestige/stature in the world. The goal/vision of democracy is dead on arrival, I question that it ever was the right concept to begin with. Progress?
I respect Patreus, and what he has been able to accomplish, but the cause and effect calculus here has more to it than his efforts. The Iraqis are exahusted, drained in ways we only can imagine in this country, no longer tolerant of interlopers trying to encroach on their lives, be they Islamic agitators or others whose motives for fighting are suspect. Clerics and sheiks are taking back their neighborhoods, kicking out the trouble makers, and Patreus, to his credit, is helping them with that effort. It is a shame he was not called upon to lead this effort when he first proposed it early in the Iraq debacle, but Rummy would have none of it. Gates has been a godsend to the DoD.
This stability does not success make. The Iraqi national government remains in a shambles, I hope they all gain some divine wisdom at the Haj they presently are attending in Mecca. It remains questionable if the constitutional structure in place at present is the right one, let alone sustainable. Personally, I still like the Joe Biden federal model, but pockets of incipient stability do not mean that success can be declared, mission is not accomplished, Mr. Shrub. Progress?
Just as important is are we as a country better off as a result of this huge tilt at windmills? MBA Shrub likely has forgotten most of his Harvard Business School training, but the return on investment for this escapade does not meet any reasonable "hurdle rate." It has done little to stem the jihadists and the war on terror. Some can argue that it actually has fomented more of this, and it will be around for a couple generations as those unhappy Iraqi boys cooling their heels in Syria grow up with little education, less hope for a future, and a strong hatred for the United States, even if it is irrational. Progress?
It has not made the region more stable, it has not led to a re-thinking of the notion of democracy in the likes of Egypt or Saudi Arabia. Our own schizophrenic application of what democracy means in that part of the world is amply demonstrated by the dealing Shrub's people have with Palestine, Pakistan, inter alia. Progress?
And the costs incurred on this crusade are just unconscionable. Shrub and company chose the most expensive, most debilitating, least productive way to achieve the so-called objective of democracy in the Middle East and defeating the war on terror. Such an appalling job performance is so over the top that it defies description. Progress?
So, Gary, I will take you point that some progress is being made, and I am glad that is the case, I would like nothing less. But such progress is at best pyrrhic, and the people responsible for creating this mess and for now still in charge of cleaning it up should be kept at very close quarters until there turn expires. They have consistently demonstrated that they are incapable of behaving responsibly when given the opportunity to do so. Class will be over for them soon, and they should just sit on that little stool in the corner with the appropriate pointed chapeaux upon their heads until the bell rings a year from now, and they are dismissed for good.
The next President will largely spend his time cleaning up the last 8 years of damage. There are no resources left to do anything worthwhile, and this country is so drained right now, all the next occupant of the Oval Office can realistically accomplish is to stop the bleeding, and stabilize the patient. Much like the veterans now patronzing the VA, we are in the beginnings of recovery, and it will take a long time before the country will be fit again, as it was before Shrub got his chance to exercise his compassionate conservatism.