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April 24 deadline: Comments for Environmental report for FAA actions

Original post made by FYI on Apr 19, 2014

Sleep disturbance from aircraft noise is not considered a health impact in the environmental impacts report for proposed federal actions regarding airspace management in Northern California.

This may be particularly important as an issue for children and teens who by law are to be especially considered.

If you have an opinion, and think that sleep disturbance from aircraft noise should be included as a health impact, the deadline for public comments is April 24.


Comments can be emailed to:

7-ANM-NorCalOAPM@faa.gov

Currently, the considerations for children are about "products and substances."

Children's Environmental Health and Safety Risks sub-categories:
The Proposed Action would not involve products or substances with which
a child is likely to be exposed, come into contact, ingest, or use.
Furthermore, the Proposed Action would not result in a local increase in
emissions that would have the potential to affect children's health.
Accordingly, there would be no increase in environmental health and
safety risks that could disproportionately affect children.

These can be found in Chapter 4 and 5 of the report.

The Environmental report is Web Link

Comments

Posted by FYI, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 19, 2014 at 1:30 pm

meant to put quotations to the report quote

Comments can be emailed to:

7-ANM-NorCalOAPM@faa.gov

Currently, the considerations for children are about "products and substances."

"Children's Environmental Health and Safety Risks sub-categories:
The Proposed Action would not involve products or substances with which
a child is likely to be exposed, come into contact, ingest, or use.
Furthermore, the Proposed Action would not result in a local increase in
emissions that would have the potential to affect children's health.
Accordingly, there would be no increase in environmental health and
safety risks that could disproportionately affect children. "

These can be found in Chapter 4 and 5 of the report.

The Environmental report is Web Link


Posted by FYI, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 19, 2014 at 1:37 pm



More info about submitting comments.

Web Link


Posted by Baloney, a resident of Evergreen Park
on Apr 21, 2014 at 6:15 pm

This is a load of bull-oney!!! Medical people will all tell you that interrupted sleep is dangerous because it leads to daytime sleepiness and uncontrollable "micro-sleeps" that cause accidents of all kinds.

My sister lived in SJ's Rose Garden, which has the same problem with SJ Airport. It took a year to sell their home, but it was a necessity because her husband was falling asleep so deeply, from sleep deprivation caused by incoming planes at night, on the Cal Train, that he would miss his stop more often than not, causing him to be often late for work in South SF. Cost him a couple of raises!


Posted by FYI, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 22, 2014 at 8:17 am

Baloney,

"Medical people will all tell you that interrupted sleep is dangerous because it leads to daytime sleepiness and uncontrollable "micro-sleeps" that cause accidents of all kinds."

If you think the FAA should add sleep disturbance as a health risk to their health impacts report, the deadline for public comments is April 24.

Comments can be emailed to:

7-ANM-NorCalOAPM@faa.gov



Posted by survivor, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 22, 2014 at 2:58 pm

What about the noises that make you grab each other and stand still, wondering if the approaching noise will turn into a receding noise?


Posted by resident 1, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Apr 25, 2014 at 10:05 am

The deadline for submittal of comments has been extended to May 4, 2014.
I submitted comments but will provide an addendum since the air traffic pattern is already changing. The traffic pattern is consolidating and working at a lower altitude.


Posted by Midtowner, a resident of Midtown
on Apr 25, 2014 at 10:35 am

I agree with you resident 1

Planes were really frequent and loud last night around 11 PM, midnight. Disrupted sleep is a health issue. I know it was raining, but rain is no excuse for health hazards.


Posted by resident 1, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Apr 25, 2014 at 12:01 pm

At 6:03 this morning I went out to pick up the papers and a 747-400 was coming directly over at a very low altitude. Very loud plane. I went to the SFO Flight Tracker to identify who it was but now flight tracker is blocking data. So much for sending in a report to the NorCal Group - so much for identifying the sources of information - their own system.
We need a seat at the table of the SFO Round Table - if we are the pivot point then we have a seat. We need to focus on that group now.


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton
on Apr 25, 2014 at 1:41 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

There is no 747 scheduled to arrive SFO at that time and it does not show up on the SJC WebTrak.


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton
on Apr 25, 2014 at 1:54 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Found it -it was a cargo flight:

(KZ) NCA - Nippon Cargo Airlines 109
(LAX) Los Angeles, CA, US to (SFO) San Francisco, CA, US

Actual Departure: Actual Arrival:
5:05 AM - Fri Apr-25-2014 (runway) 6:05 AM - Fri Apr-25-2014 (runway)


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton
on Apr 25, 2014 at 2:01 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Here is the actual flight path - very unusual as it flew a complete 450 deg turn over North Fair Oaks, Atherton, Menlo Park, Portola Valley, Stanford, Palo Alto but was never below 4000 ft over any of these cities:

Web Link

Cargo planes are frequently older and noisier models.


Posted by resident 1, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Apr 25, 2014 at 2:19 pm

SFO Flight tracker was down at the time. It is now back up. I am thinking it was DL 1152 - 757-200 or UA 1722 - 737-800 - both coming in from Hawaii.
The plane was over my house at 6:03 - that is not when it landed. Since Flight tracker was down it is all speculation - maybe it was Nancy Pelosi coming back from Hawaii in her plane - yes she has a plane and is a regular visitor to the big island of Hawaii. Has to carry all of that secret service with her. What joy for the taxpayers.


Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton
on Apr 25, 2014 at 2:56 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

"Since Flight tracker was down it is all speculation "

No, no speculation necessary as it clearly shows up on SJC WebTrak. This was the only plane near your house at that time.

Pelosi is no longer House Speaker and therefore does not have a plane.