New 4 way stop on Loma Verde near El Carmelo School
Original post made by Resident on Jan 22, 2014
Can they just put up a stop sign without either a visible warning sign "new stop sign ahead" or at least announcing it in the local paper?
BTW, I have nothing against the stop sign, just its sudden appearance and wonder if there had been any public discussion or announcement.
on Jan 22, 2014 at 2:57 pm
They installed new stop signs on Channing at the side entrance to Duveneck with no notice. If the driver is paying attention, why do they need a warning that there is a new stop sign?
on Jan 22, 2014 at 8:13 pm
On a related note, I live on Heather Lane and got up today to find a series of large bright white bicycle symbols and sharrows (those arrow things) up and down the surface of this fairly short street - I think 12 in all? - without notice. It's overkill.
This is a narrow LANE, with cars parked on both sides of the street and little kids walking on the narrow sidewalks with rolled curbs down to the charming school at the end of the street (Duveneck Elementary). There is a fair amount of auto traffic, but cars often must pull to the side to let a car on the other side get by as the street is so narrow.
IF it has now been made suddenly into a "bike route" (?) and the bike symbols mean that (?), then this is unwise, because it is unsuited. Nearby Channing Avenue and certain other streets like Newell seem much wider, better suited for labeled bike routes. We don't have bike lanes here.
IF this is not the case, and someone from the city just decided one day to place these symbols here, then I think it is visual clutter, unnecessary on a narrow street (if you are riding a bike in this street you would know to be looking out since it IS narrow, and if you are driving you must be on the look out for other traffic/cyclists/pedestrians anyway), and a waste of our taxpayer dollars and some staff peoples' time. Maybe they do have too much time on their hands if they plan out things like this and send crews out to paint these things.
on Jan 22, 2014 at 8:24 pm
This is a 25mph street in a residential area next to an elementary school. You should be in maximum attention mode already, so noticing the stop sign should not be an issue for any competent driver.